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Crit Maximum at 95 - is it just a myth?

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Re: Crit Maximum at 95 - is it just a myth?
« Reply #15 on: December 01, 2009, 06:40:06 pm »
why doesn't any1 send in a support ticket and ask the GM's if u can get 100% crit or not :P
Just a suggestion.

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Re: Crit Maximum at 95 - is it just a myth?
« Reply #16 on: December 01, 2009, 06:48:10 pm »
I get 100 crit on hunter cause as I see it 95% chance of hitting only happens when you have 100% crit

Consider hitting 100 times
if you got 95 crit then youll miss those 5% that people say will always miss those are 5 misses, then out of the other 95 hits you'll hit 95% of the time with 95 crit rate, those are 90.25, so true crit is 90.25% with 95 crit rate, with 100 crit youll have 95% crit

that's how I see it

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Re: Crit Maximum at 95 - is it just a myth?
« Reply #17 on: December 02, 2009, 12:06:56 am »
It doesn't matter because even 70~80 is still consider good crit rate and if you lucky...every hit u made is crit as it's 80% success/20% fail.
Just like 1 guy overup 10 full plate and got all +5 and 1 guy overup 10 full plate and got 0 +5 even the rate is 60%.
More like 95-100% actually . I ve been playing Ro since Beta :P I know my mechanics well .

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Re: Crit Maximum at 95 - is it just a myth?
« Reply #18 on: December 02, 2009, 12:30:38 am »
It doesn't matter because even 70~80 is still consider good crit rate and if you lucky...every hit u made is crit as it's 80% success/20% fail.
Just like 1 guy overup 10 full plate and got all +5 and 1 guy overup 10 full plate and got 0 +5 even the rate is 60%.
More like 95-100% actually . I ve been playing Ro since Beta :P I know my mechanics well .
Which 95~100%?
I said crit if you fighting high luk monster which left 70~80. And there's a thread that people QQ when they break a lot of +4 to +5.
And yes, I acknowledge your expert in game mechanic but there are some case that you were outdated or wrong.
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Re: Crit Maximum at 95 - is it just a myth?
« Reply #19 on: December 02, 2009, 08:31:55 am »
/hmm

CRIT

Critical Hit Rate: Your critical hit rating, which does damage that fully ignores enemy DEF, both % and pure value part. Because of difficulty of acquiring CRIT without sacrificing lots of other stats or useful cards/gears, it is recommended it is used on classes that naturally has fast ASPD one way or another. Offensive Skills do not take CRIT into account with the exception of Focused Arrow Strike. Critical Hit also ignore FLEE but not PERFECT DODGE.

The critical rate being displayed in the status window isn't the true value which is applied against monsters. The "status crit" is calculated by dividing current LUK by 3 and adding the crit bonuses from equips/cards. The real crit rate is a little different. Formula : LUK*0.3 + bonuses.

When you attack a monster or a player, the target's LUK influences your critical hit rate. Every 5 LUK that the target has, you lose 1% crit (Which isn't shown in the status window). For example if you hit Angeling, that has 100 LUK, you'll lose 100/5 = 20 crit. This crit tolerance is also known as "Crit Shield" on Doddler's monster database.

Critical is doubled when you use Katar type weapon.

FLEE

For the Monk skill, see: Flee (Skill).

Flee Rate: Your dodge rating. It is shown as A + B in the stat window, where A is your AGI + any other bonuses + your base LV value, and B is the chance of doing 'lucky dodge', which can even dodge critical attacks. Make note that no matter how much AGI you have, you cannot have more than 95% dodge rate against anything in the game, however this does not ring true inside WoE Maps, as players can have 100% dodge rate in these maps.

Adapted from: http://irowiki.org/wiki/Stats


Never state anything about 95% crit. /hmm
So I think crit max at 95 is a myth..

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Re: Crit Maximum at 95 - is it just a myth?
« Reply #20 on: December 02, 2009, 11:51:36 pm »
And yes, I acknowledge your expert in game mechanic but there are some case that you were outdated or wrong.
I wonder why you even ask questions if you apparently know the answers to everything .
I am not proving myself right or wrong. I was stating a visible fact. I know the difference between 70-80 % and 95-100%
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Re: Crit Maximum at 95 - is it just a myth?
« Reply #21 on: December 03, 2009, 02:31:14 am »
And yes, I acknowledge your expert in game mechanic but there are some case that you were outdated or wrong.
I wonder why you even ask questions if you apparently know the answers to everything .
I am not proving myself right or wrong. I was stating a visible fact. I know the difference between 70-80 % and 95-100%

Hi, which part of my post saying that I know everything?
I asked on OP because I always believe that crit cap at 95 as being told by everyone in this forum until now...
Who knows they might have references saying that.
I'm also stating a fact. Isn't it true that if it take 10 hit to kill High Orc...all hit could be critical because each swing is 80% success.

And yes, I acknowledge your expert in game mechanic but there are some case that you were outdated or wrong.
^And that...that's only a response to your lame "hi, I play agez ago, i knoe".
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Re: Crit Maximum at 95 - is it just a myth?
« Reply #22 on: December 03, 2009, 02:42:54 am »
And yes, I acknowledge your expert in game mechanic but there are some case that you were outdated or wrong.
^And that...that's only a response to your lame "hi, I play agez ago, i knoe".
Go test and tell people results based off your test - As for the quote - It is supposed to make you know That I Exactly know what I mean when I say a lot. When I said lot - I meant 95%. I am sorry I even posted in this thread - judging by your constant habit of tripping others I should have chosen to stay out. I am pretty sure I know how basic math and probability work and of course you missed the keyword "Odd" in my main post for which you started to give me a lesson on probability. Then again I understand that English is not your first language.

As you can see , no one is primarily able to answer your question - Testing it on other servers or iRO wont tell anything about how things work on aRO - do your tests and make sure you test them over atleast 100 hits instead of 10 and make a post "There is no such thing as a 95 crit cap" and then let others test and contradict it if they can.

Test on plants with slow ASPD. With 2 of these and luck.
http://ratemyserver.net/index.php?iname=kitchen+knife&page=item_db&isearch=Search&itype=-1
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Re: Crit Maximum at 95 - is it just a myth?
« Reply #23 on: December 03, 2009, 03:00:23 am »
Dude, I did respond to your 'odd' stuff.
You said even you hit high luk monster, you still got good crit rate.
Which then I said that even crit reduced to 70~80...you can still get all hit to crit~which is true. It's not like the game mechanic saying "Owh this guy only have 70~80 crit left after crit def reduction...so we can only let him crit 8/10"

And for my experienced hunting mvp...my 100 screen crit reduced a lot when killing mistress which have 130 luk.

As you can see , no one is primarily able to answer your question - Testing it on other servers or iRO wont tell anything about how things work on aRO - do your tests and make sure you test them over atleast 100 hits instead of 10 and make a post "There is no such thing as a 95 crit cap" and then let others test and contradict it if they can.

Test on plants with slow ASPD.

Do you even read my post?

Well...I couldn't answer him so I log into aRO and test with 99 luk, around 178 aspd, some crit gear, some dex for 100% hit, 1 str so I wont kill my target fast, which made me 65 crit/130 crit with Katar.
I was hoping I won't crit at least 1 time....but it was always crit even after I killed like 30 mob in there...

If you didn't know what is aRO...it stands for AnthemRO. And 30 mob with 1 str...how many hit do you think I can kill 1 mob? I even killed like 30 mob in there. Owh yea...I forgot to mentioned I was testing in Prison...but that doesn't matter as I did test it until awake end.
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Re: Crit Maximum at 95 - is it just a myth?
« Reply #24 on: December 03, 2009, 03:08:47 am »
I read original posts and the responses thoroughly before I type. Try better tripping next time.

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Re: Crit Maximum at 95 - is it just a myth?
« Reply #25 on: December 03, 2009, 03:18:24 am »
I read original posts and the responses thoroughly before I type. Try better tripping next time.

So what did you mean by saying I'm testing at other server? And like 10 hit? Where you get that idea?
If you count 30min...it's a lot of hit...more than 100 hit that you suggested.

And what's with that Kitchen Knife for? Katar is the best to weapon to test because this thread is about "Is getting 150 crit will still make you crit 95%? True or false?"
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Re: Crit Maximum at 95 - is it just a myth?
« Reply #26 on: December 03, 2009, 03:45:05 am »
100 crit should be good enough. There is no point going above.

because this thread is about "Is getting 150 crit will still make you crit 95%? True or false?"
Still tripping.

So if your extensive tests show crit doesn't cap - Go post it in a separate thread or modify this one since you have your results - why are you keeping the topic alive?
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Re: Crit Maximum at 95 - is it just a myth?
« Reply #27 on: December 03, 2009, 04:03:28 am »
100 crit should be good enough. There is no point going above.

That's not the point of this thread...I don't need that opinion anymore. I even reply to those kind of post.
isnt it like 60 luk with 50 crit rate already fucks up flee type.
True that and the DPS wouldnt be much different but who can help if someone want 100% crit ;P

because this thread is about "Is getting 150 crit will still make you crit 95%? True or false?"
Still tripping.

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You have no more point?
Where's the Poison Knife and that other server and other shit?

Dude, the last post by Star Star and I thought it would be the last post before you posting again.
And must every thread should be closed? lol
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Re: Crit Maximum at 95 - is it just a myth?
« Reply #28 on: December 03, 2009, 12:43:51 pm »
wow razer being an ass here >.>

what do you mean with tripping, thats the question of this thread and if you can't give a constructive answer then stay away and go forge a weapon

And what's with that Kitchen Knife for? Katar is the best to weapon to test because this thread is about "Is getting 150 crit will still make you crit 95%? True or false?"

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Crit Cap IS NOT A MYTH
« Reply #29 on: December 03, 2009, 01:02:19 pm »
wow razer being an ass here >.>

what do you mean with tripping, thats the question of this thread and if you can't give a constructive answer then stay away and go forge a weapon

And what's with that Kitchen Knife for? Katar is the best to weapon to test because this thread is about "Is getting 150 crit will still make you crit 95%? True or false?"

Excuse me ?  am I being an Arse ? Are you retarded? He picked me out on something I said which was not even related to this. Instead of understanding what I said he kept trying "Trip" (Troll/Flame Bait) me.


what do you mean with tripping, thats the question of this thread and if you can't give a constructive answer then stay away and go forge a weapon

Seriously dude, Is this the way to talk in this part of the forums ? Or did he MSN you to back his arse up ?

To prove that the cap is  not 95% you need any weapon that does 100% of the crits to [prove that the cap doesnt exist.
You find a non luck monster like this thing here and test it on. I am sorry , But 2 Kitchen Knives work well too. It doesnt hurt clicking the link to see wtf the item does.
http://ratemyserver.net/index.php?page=mob_db&mob_name=green+plant&f=1&mob_search=Search

 I'd say he was silly enough to "not understand" and flame - you are in a league of your own to poke your nose into this. Next time please read everything before you post ?

Also on the bold, You know only 2 kind of people use phrases like that - Either complete arse hats or jealous pricks. You decide which category you fit in . I didnt even post after his last rant in this thread.
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Now that you have questioned my dedication in this here you go:

Actually Weasel was better off with his test (however he did it)
Just for the sake here is my test on this monster:

http://ratemyserver.net/index.php?page=mob_db&mob_name=blue+plant&f=1&mob_search=Search

0 luk/0 vit monster. Tested it on Red-green-yellow and blue - Shining have 90 luk so were not a part of my test.

I did around 150 hits with 100CRit which was reachable by 1 Kitchen Knife and gloria. (Kitchen Knife not poison knife - Read properly before you tell me to read properly)



3 out of 150 hits did not go Crit - Here is a SS on a 0 luk/0 every other stat monster.The earlier hit was a crit - see the yellow circle for the non crit - It was hard to cap these.


This was a "BLUE" plant.
Conclusion : I dont know about the exact number but a cap does exist. 95% seems more possible since its too good and highly probable that you crit stuff to death without white damages for a while but if I can get a white damage at 100 Crit on a no luck monster(No Crit shield) that means some cap is there.

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