Banned Account When i used to play AnimaRO for supposably "AD FRAUDING"

[CrazyAssasin]

First of all i do not try to present my self as a victim because that wouldnt solve anything, and If i look like the victim then it proofs my point since im just telling the story how it happened. Im not trying to convince you since we all dont think alike.  And this happened about a year ago. I started playing animaro like October i think. I didnt read the rules as you can see otherwise i wouldve never AD FRAUDED. It would be another story then. And what benefits do you talk about? If Im banned and Lost Everything...what benefits are there? And If it isnt convincing then too bad, GM TALIS is the one who decides what happens...and it all comes to BANK TRANSFERS, its all the proof i can give. I get that 30$ might seem alot to some ppl, and it seems alot to me too, but not compared to what i Donated. And AD FRAUDING works for the benefit of AnimaRO. They keep the money anyways. And my logic towards AD FRAUDING was completely different from yours. I thought "hey theyre going to get the money anyways so why would it be bad?" I also started from scratch youre not the only one. And if i robbed from AnimaRO AD SPONSORS...so did AnimaRO. So in the end, they kept all the money and ended up banning me bud. I guess You care so much and thank the GMS for banning me, but AnimaRO steals players(along with that comes money) from iRO and no one is complaining. But of course no one sees that. When the server crashed and many of the DONATIONS were lost, all the GMS said was that they were TRULY sorry from the bottom of their hearts. And of course you all forgave them Eventhough stating that wouldnt change anything. Same thing with me but since you all hate AD FRAUDERS so much because they prosper more than you do by cheating, and i would hate that too, that wasnt the reason i stopped...the reason i stopped ad frauding was because i didnt want to get banned since i really enjoyed this server. But I think i deserve a second chance and if i ad frauded for KAHOS...take it i dont really mind all i care for is playing with my old characters and this server. Forgiveness is the key word and you all used it when this server came back up, but forgot about it since what i did was somewhat alike to the situation GM TALIS/Others was on.

[CrazyAssasin]

Shane, go ahead man. Post up your opinion towards this THREAD, thats why i posted this up. Its your opinion anyways, you cant be wrong or right.

[agent_47]

First of all i do not try to present my self as a victim because that wouldnt solve anything, and If i look like the victim then it proofs my point since im just telling the story how it happened. Im not trying to convince you since we all dont think alike.  And this happened about a year ago. I started playing animaro like October i think. I didnt read the rules as you can see otherwise i wouldve never AD FRAUDED. It would be another story then. And what benefits do you talk about? If Im banned and Lost Everything...what benefits are there? And If it isnt convincing then too bad, GM TALIS is the one who decides what happens...and it all comes to BANK TRANSFERS, its all the proof i can give. I get that 30$ might seem alot to some ppl, and it seems alot to me too, but not compared to what i Donated. And AD FRAUDING works for the benefit of AnimaRO. They keep the money anyways. And my logic towards AD FRAUDING was completely different from yours. I thought "hey theyre going to get the money anyways so why would it be bad?" I also started from scratch youre not the only one. And if i robbed from AnimaRO AD SPONSORS...so did AnimaRO. So in the end, they kept all the money and ended up banning me bud. I guess You care so much and thank the GMS for banning me, but AnimaRO steals players(along with that comes money) from iRO and no one is complaining. But of course no one sees that. When the server crashed and many of the DONATIONS were lost, all the GMS said was that they were TRULY sorry from the bottom of their hearts. And of course you all forgave them Eventhough stating that wouldnt change anything. Same thing with me but since you all hate AD FRAUDERS so much because they prosper more than you do by cheating, and i would hate that too, that wasnt the reason i stopped...the reason i stopped ad frauding was because i didnt want to get banned since i really enjoyed this server. But I think i deserve a second chance and if i ad frauded for KAHOS...take it i dont really mind all i care for is playing with my old characters and this server. Forgiveness is the key word and you all used it when this server came back up, but forgot about it since what i did was somewhat alike to the situation GM TALIS/Others was on.

yeah i lost my ads too and never came back sigh for me

[shane3x]

I didnt read the rules as you can see otherwise i wouldve never AD FRAUDED

Ignorance is no excuse.

And AD FRAUDING works for the benefit of AnimaRO

So by cheating the sponsors and making them not want to continue business with us thats helping?

but AnimaRO steals players(along with that comes money) from iRO

yes anthemro along with all other private aegis servers out there are illegal but iRO makes more money then any private server and it would not gain a lot by suing all of these servers (legal costs and time would far exceed any gains)

I do not live in the US so i dont have access to sponsors but i stopped caring about that long ago. What my problem is that many players who do have access to them are abusing them and that i dont agree with, which to sum this whole thread up you done. Have you noticed basically everyone who has posted in this thread doesnt agree with you?

Ad fraud is an ad fraud. You still broke the rules no matter how little you frauded. Your justifications for an unban are weak and really give no reason to unban you.
You said you only frauded a little, but you still frauded and frauding is a bannable offense
You stopped after you realized that it was against the rules to do it, but you still frauded and frauding is a bannable offense
The reason why they banned you after you donated was probably because they don't have a magic button that lights up every single time someone frauds. It takes a while to find the frauders considering that there are thousands and thousands of forum accounts.
Besides why the hell are you even going through all the trouble of making a forum thread if the SERVER OWNER ALREADY TOLD YOU THAT YOU CAN'T BE UNBANNED I'm 100% sure that this forum thread won't help you in any way if you were already turned down by the server owner.

[Macabre]

The rules regarding Ad Credit are clear and simple. Frauding on your part was not a mistake. It was deliberate and you were caught.

About donating more than you "robbed," well, that doesn't mean anything.

If a woman gives birth to 10 children, but decides to murder another, it's still murder. It doesn't change the ruling.

Ad Fraud is a low, and ridiculous thing to do. The credit system provided by the Management team is a gift to the players. It helps them acquire things they want through easier means. When people exploit this, it's rather pathetic, and unfair.

[CrazyAssasin]

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And AD FRAUDING works for the benefit of AnimaRO

So by cheating the sponsors and making them not want to continue business with us thats helping?

And taking the money is?

but AnimaRO steals players(along with that comes money) from iRO

yes anthemro along with all other private aegis servers out there are illegal but iRO makes more money then any private server and it would not gain a lot by suing all of these servers (legal costs and time would far exceed any gains)

Doesnt really matter they're still taking players from iRO. Doesnt matter about the money, or suing...iRO looses money.

[Macabre]

I was actually under the impression that private servers are not illegal unless either A. They demand money from their players, or B. Allow donations which benefit the server owners and not the servers themselves.

Therefore, since Anthem allows donations and does not force their players to donate, they are not breaking any laws there. Also, if all the donations recieved go into running and maintaining the server itself, there is no law-breaking there either.

That was my understanding.





I could be wrong. It has been known to happen...    From time to time.

[CrazyAssasin]

"About donating more than you "robbed," well, that doesn't mean anything."

Then you tell me what it means? It means they took the money i "ROBBED" and DONATED and banned me.
You tell me, what does that mean? If youre all using METAPHORS here goes mine.

-If a thief robs a bank by himself and gives half of that money to his friend and the friend accepts the money. They friend would go to jail aswell. No matter if he was with him or not, if he takes the money its like he's robbing the bank also.

"If a woman gives birth to 10 children, but decides to murder another, it's still murder. It doesn't change the ruling."

-Stop with those metaphors that dont really apply here. We grew up knowing not to murder, if you kill the consequences are obvious.

"Ad Fraud is a low, and ridiculous thing to do. The credit system provided by the Management team is a gift to the players. It helps them acquire things they want through easier means. When people exploit this, it's rather pathetic, and unfair."

-Unfair for who? the players? or the ad frauders? as far as im concerned every ad frauder was banned...whats so unfair about that?   take a look at me, am i playing on the server? NO. So it isnt UNFAIR.

[CrazyAssasin]

I was actually under the impression that private servers are not illegal unless either A. They demand money from their players, or B. Allow donations which benefit the server owners and not the servers themselves.

Therefore, since Anthem allows donations and does not force their players to donate, they are not breaking any laws there. Also, if all the donations recieved go into running and maintaining the server itself, there is no law-breaking there either.

That was my understanding.





I could be wrong. It has been known to happen...    From time to time.

Taking peoples stuff...drawings...programs...games... or what ever that have copyrights no matter what are still illegal.  I really doubt AnimaRO or AnthemRO give money to iRO.  Its like if i make many copies of a MOVIE with copyrights...doesnt matter if "i was trying to sell the movies for the PRODUCERS..."its still considered ILLEGAL.

Thats my understanding.

[shane3x]

He won't listen, When a GM comes in here you will be proved wrong and your account still banned.

[CrazyAssasin]

i wont listen to what SHANE? tell me if im wrong? YOU ROBBED THAT BANK SO IM GOING TO TAKE YOUR MONEY ANYWAY AND KEEP IT...that sounds really "legall"

and im not trying to start something. all im saying is people deserve second chances.

 if you all gave AnthemRO GMS another shot and forgave them...why cant you forgive me?
Why doesnt anyone reply to this?

Its practically the same scenario

[shane3x]

i wont listen to what SHANE? tell me if im wrong? YOU ROBBED THAT BANK SO IM GOING TO TAKE YOUR MONEY ANYWAY AND KEEP IT...that sounds really "legall"

and im not trying to start something. all im saying is people deserve second chances.

 if you all gave AnthemRO GMS another shot and forgave them...why cant you forgive me?
Why doesnt anyone reply to this?

Its practically the same scenario

Most of the AnthemRO GM's are different people. Many people since the server opened have come to these forums asking to have accounts unbanned (from anima) for various reasons and have used many excuses but to my knowledge none of those people got their accounts back.

[CrazyAssasin]

hmm that sucks...
i hope my case is different.

because i really enjoyed playing with my old characters just like all of you do.

[shane3x]

hmm that sucks...
i hope my case is different.

because i really enjoyed playing with my old characters just like all of you do.

But most of us haven't broken rules to warrant a ban.

[Haruwa]

I was going to ignore this thread after my first post but seeing as there are a few vindictive people leaving comments I’ll leave one of my own in response.

The rules may be clear and simple but depending on who the offender is the situation is handled differently. You may say ad frauding is bad but what about the people who legitimately did those ads or the ones who god forbid, paid out money to those sponsors only to have it taken away when the site was lost and received no compensation because we didn’t make a direct donation. The fact that AnimaRO had sponsored ads up saying you would be given a certain amount of ad credit only to have you spend your time and money then give you nothing in return is technically scamming the player. So by your own logic that would make AnthemRO ad frauders for not having said sponsor return my money or at least the ads for the ones I paid out money for. Heck if they knew the site was having issues they never should have left the sponsors up.  Because I didn’t donate the money directly to AnthemRO I had to wait for said sponsor to send a verification that didn’t come before the site went down. So I got scammed by the sponsors system and didn’t cheat at all are you saying I still deserved what I got? Instead of thinking of AnthemRO as scammers I took part of the blame for not noticing the decay of the sponsors system and let it go. Even though I have the least amount of blame in this case it’s still somewhat my fault for doing the sponsored ads since it gave more money than just plain donating. If I can forgive and forget because I noticed AnthemRO was trying to change for the better other people who are supposed to be better than me should be able to do the same. Besides all things considered since the sponsors scammed players they deserved to be scammed themselves. You can’t scam other people and then get made because they did it back to you.

And to those who can only laugh at others and get joy from telling them how much they deserved it. Comments like that aren’t needed and if you can’t be constructive about what you say you don’t need to say it at all. People like you who say useless things that aren’t needed just to try and hurt other people make this server far worse than an ad frauder ever will.