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Banned Account When i used to play AnimaRO for supposably "AD FRAUDING"

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Re: Banned Account When i used to play AnimaRO for supposably "AD FRAUDING"
« Reply #15 on: December 22, 2007, 10:41:12 am »
I can sort of relate. I know players that unintentionally ad frauded, and later realized their mistake, stopping soon thereafter. I understand your desire to fix past wrongs, but, well, Mirandu worded it nicely.

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Re: Banned Account When i used to play AnimaRO for supposably "AD FRAUDING"
« Reply #16 on: December 22, 2007, 03:24:58 pm »
obviously DIRTY SANCHEZ did not read my thread. I ONLY GAINES 30$ FROM AD FRAUDING. It was a simple mistake I now realize and i get taht the GM banned me because, i did indeed ad fraud but it wasnt worth it since t9hey knew i stopped and i instead donated from my money but the GMS didnt care. hopefully GM TALIS can understand. if he see's the transfers from the BANK.
....AND BEFORE READING ID LIKE TO ADRESS THIS : To the rest of the ppl that say i deserved getting banned becuase i robbed AnimaRO. HAHA!! :-X First of all i donated WAY more than what i so "robbed" Its so funny to mention that becuase you are  doing the same to iRO. And no one seems to complaint??? So i guess if AnimaRO crashed...they had deserved it?  8) ALso: i now realize that was my mistake and Im truly sorry. Just like The GMS  and the rest of the AnimaRO crew was for the SERVER CRASH. and still...people gave them a second chance, why shouldnt they give me one? I didnt do it on purpose...just like the GMS. It wasnt their fault the SERVER CRASHED...or maybe it was for not taking precautions,but they said sorry from their bottom of their hearts and they were forgiven, eventhough saying SORRY didnt change the fact that many players didnt get their AD CREDITS back...the same with my case, it was insome ways my fault...but i changed. Thanks Alot for all your Comments.

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Re: Banned Account When i used to play AnimaRO for supposably "AD FRAUDING"
« Reply #17 on: December 22, 2007, 03:54:29 pm »
And to the rest of the ppl that say i deserved getting banned becuase i robbed AnimaRO. HAHA!! :-X First of all i donated WAY more than what i so "robbed" Its so funny to mention that becuase you are  doing the same to iRO. And no one seems to complaint??? So i guess if AnimaRO crashed...they had deserved it?
....AND BEFORE READING ID LIKE TO ADRESS THIS : To the rest of the ppl that say i deserved getting banned becuase i robbed AnimaRO. HAHA!! :-X First of all i donated WAY more than what i so "robbed" Its so funny to mention that becuase you are  doing the same to iRO. And no one seems to complaint??? So i guess if AnimaRO crashed...they had deserved it?  8) ALso: i now realize that was my mistake and Im truly sorry. Just like The GMS  and the rest of the AnimaRO crew was for the SERVER CRASH. and still...people gave them a second chance, why shouldnt they give me one? I didnt do it on purpose...just like the GMS. It wasnt their fault the SERVER CRASHED...or maybe it was for not taking precautions,but they said sorry from their bottom of their hearts and they were forgiven, eventhough saying SORRY didnt change the fact that many players didnt get their AD CREDITS back...the same with my case, it was insome ways my fault...but i changed. Thanks Alot for all your Comments.

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Re: Banned Account When i used to play AnimaRO for supposably "AD FRAUDING"
« Reply #18 on: December 22, 2007, 05:59:43 pm »
*blah blah blah blah blah*

I didn't bother reading your huge block of text full of worthless, false justifications.

I'm just going to say, you deserve to be banned if you ad frauded. So what if you donated more? Ad fraud is ad fraud.
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Re: Banned Account When i used to play AnimaRO for supposably "AD FRAUDING"
« Reply #19 on: December 22, 2007, 07:34:14 pm »
Ad fraud is an ad fraud. You still broke the rules no matter how little you frauded. Your justifications for an unban are weak and really give no reason to unban you.
You said you only frauded a little, but you still frauded and frauding is a bannable offense
You stopped after you realized that it was against the rules to do it, but you still frauded and frauding is a bannable offense
The reason why they banned you after you donated was probably because they don't have a magic button that lights up every single time someone frauds. It takes a while to find the frauders considering that there are thousands and thousands of forum accounts.
Besides why the hell are you even going through all the trouble of making a forum thread if the SERVER OWNER ALREADY TOLD YOU THAT YOU CAN'T BE UNBANNED I'm 100% sure that this forum thread won't help you in any way if you were already turned down by the server owner.

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Re: Banned Account When i used to play AnimaRO for supposably "AD FRAUDING"
« Reply #20 on: December 22, 2007, 09:13:03 pm »
just create a new account? >>" u cant get the ADs back anywayz cuz there was a data wipeout
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Re: Banned Account When i used to play AnimaRO for supposably "AD FRAUDING"
« Reply #21 on: December 22, 2007, 09:22:18 pm »
you cant prove you just fraud for $ 30, but anyway find new ways maybe prove that you donated *certain amount of $* and ask to be credited 50% or something, 50% aint much i know...

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Re: Banned Account When i used to play AnimaRO for supposably "AD FRAUDING"
« Reply #22 on: December 22, 2007, 11:03:49 pm »
also 30$ isnt such a low amount  :P


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Re: Banned Account When i used to play AnimaRO for supposably "AD FRAUDING"
« Reply #23 on: December 22, 2007, 11:19:07 pm »
After the data wipe hundreds of ad credits were restored to people who only lost about $20 so refusing to work with someone who's trying to work with you over $30 is a bit much and seems more about money than the happiness of the players. All in all you should never cheat and reading the rules should be a given but if you genuinely don't know you did something wrong and people just punish you without really explaining the how and why you won’t really learn anything. I think if you pay back what you owe and then some as well as formally apologize and have really never done it again then there is no reason not to give you a chance. Maybe not give you all your IC gear but still a second chance. Not to mention people who don't really ad fraud can be banned on this server without doing anything at all. The way the banning is on the server now is a bit...uncompromising and in supplication for those who don't deserve it at all but still get hassled by a less than fool proof system second chances should be given to those who really change. As well as a more understanding approach to people whom are only in the wrong due to misunderstandings. People also aren’t supposed to kill steal but I was stalked, looted and kill stealed by the same person for over a week. Even though he was reported and I uploaded screen shots he was never banned for it. In fact the only thing that ever did happen to him was getting muted for street chats. At any rate the rules should not be selective if people are going to be this harsh over breaking this rule then it should go across the board.

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Re: Banned Account When i used to play AnimaRO for supposably "AD FRAUDING"
« Reply #24 on: December 22, 2007, 11:41:16 pm »
Letting you back because you pay 100$ would look really bad on their part.
Then everyone would think they could just bribe the Gm's to do anything.
Also, isn't Ad fraud supposed to be a ip ban? :/ meaning you should be happy that you can start on a new account?

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Re: Banned Account When i used to play AnimaRO for supposably "AD FRAUDING"
« Reply #25 on: December 23, 2007, 12:18:30 am »
I Appreciate all the comments but its just really up to the GMS. And im not paying 100$ to bribe the GMS. Its like a fee that i think I owe, and for the GMS to see that I truly care about this server and that I'm willing to do anything to get my stuff back. And i also think that banning someone becuase they AD FRAUDED isnt really fair. I mean they take the money anyways...and end up banning you. If its such a crime...shouldnt the GMS take the fault as well. The thing is, i did change and people might not believe me...and like HARUWA said...people deserve second chances only if they really changed, i did indeed change. The Transfers would show that i did. Games are meant to be played...i know AD FRAUDING in a way is cheating...but i didnt know that since i thought that GMS wouldnt care if i would AD FRAUD since they would get the money anyways. But i now realize that was my mistake and Im truly sorry. Just like GM TALIS and the rest of the AnimaRO crew was for the SERVER CRASH. and still...people gave them a second chance, why shouldnt they give me one? I didnt do it on purpose...just like the GMS. It wasnt their fault the SERVER CRASHED...or maybe it was for not taking precautions, the same with my case, it was insome ways my fault...but i changed. Thanks Alot for all your Comments.
....AND BEFORE READING ID LIKE TO ADRESS THIS : To the rest of the ppl that say i deserved getting banned becuase i robbed AnimaRO. HAHA!! :-X First of all i donated WAY more than what i so "robbed" Its so funny to mention that becuase you are  doing the same to iRO. And no one seems to complaint??? So i guess if AnimaRO crashed...they had deserved it?  8) ALso: i now realize that was my mistake and Im truly sorry. Just like The GMS  and the rest of the AnimaRO crew was for the SERVER CRASH. and still...people gave them a second chance, why shouldnt they give me one? I didnt do it on purpose...just like the GMS. It wasnt their fault the SERVER CRASHED...or maybe it was for not taking precautions,but they said sorry from their bottom of their hearts and they were forgiven, eventhough saying SORRY didnt change the fact that many players didnt get their AD CREDITS back...the same with my case, it was insome ways my fault...but i changed. Thanks Alot for all your Comments.

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Re: Banned Account When i used to play AnimaRO for supposably "AD FRAUDING"
« Reply #26 on: December 23, 2007, 02:12:04 am »
Take the 100$ instead of trying to get your account unbanned rebuild a new one with that 100$? you can get a bunch of IC gear with that. They won't unban an ad frauder mind as well put the 100$ to good use

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Re: Banned Account When i used to play AnimaRO for supposably "AD FRAUDING"
« Reply #27 on: December 23, 2007, 02:29:03 am »
i feel you crazy assasin..me either i got addicted in donating that time and donated alot thats why im stuck in my high debts as of now ..i was stupid yeha becoz i expected to be the best and truly yeah this game is my happiness i dont got friends outside this game made me addicted..and yeah we are wrong also if we didnt read the rules in the first place.i feel you bro i feel you..

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Re: Banned Account When i used to play AnimaRO for supposably "AD FRAUDING"
« Reply #28 on: December 23, 2007, 03:42:49 am »
obviously DIRTY SANCHEZ did not read my thread. I ONLY GAINES 30$ FROM AD FRAUDING. It was a simple mistake I now realize and i get taht the GM banned me because, i did indeed ad fraud but it wasnt worth it since t9hey knew i stopped and i instead donated from my money but the GMS didnt care. hopefully GM TALIS can understand. if he see's the transfers from the BANK.

You'r right I didn't read it properly, it was 3am, sorry. However, my comment was only partially directed at you (again, sorry it wasn't worded well). I was more shocked by the fact that US players are able to get access to $50 ad credit for nothing. While others, in particular Shane (/pat) got given shit. It just shows how much the sponsers ruined AnimaRo, ad fruaders and discrimination was a factor that led to it's demise. Hopefully, Anthem doesn't tread in these footsteps and god forbid if we ever have to see sponsers ever again.

For some reason as I was pushing my lawn mower and trimming hedges (I'm a gardener by trade) this damn thread was on my mind. Now comes the time I move to you Mr.Assassin.  Firstly your tone and CAPITAL letters piss me off as well as your feudal attempts to present yourself as the victim, sorry but it's true.
Ok, You say this happened in January, this year? Mate, I've been here for a long time trust me. I know for a fact that 'Ad frauding' was way before your time here, and was a rule. By playing this game, you must read the rules before playing. There is no excuse.
I must admit, I even considered ad frauding when I first came here, but out of respect and logic, I never did. How could you believe you'd get away with it? Did you think you were the only one who'd try to fraud the system?
I do feel a little sympathy for you though, if your a kid (well, I don't really know that) working for something that you desire, only to loose it. At the same time, that annoys me too, two months of hard work you say? Hmm, I've been here 18 months starting from scratch, now that's hard work =/

I'm sorry you lost your money, I really am (only because your a kid), but as you may have heard "cheaters never prosper". Didn't anyone tell you that? It may've only been $30 to you, but consider the wider implications, if you can. Such as Shane and I, who work hard to get somewhere, as well as the servers image, and economy.
Also, the correct thing to do was to inform a GM immediatly about your 'accidental' ad fraud, it's not hard. I wouldn't have risked $80 of your 'real' money for an extra $30. I even ask if I can bot here for testing purposes for god sakes, It gets turned down, but at leased I ask. By complaining after the ban had been implemented, it makes you look desperate and weak, as if you expected to get away with it. "I don't do it anymore" is not very conincing either, considering you kept the benifits until the very end.
It's heart warming to feel the GMs did their job, and I'm proud of them, they work hard (I think? I get this image of them sitting with beers in hands laughing at things like this, I don't know why?).

All you had to do was post in the forums, pm a GM (hey that rhymes!) or support ticket when you noticed what had happened. You didn't. Instead waited for them to get you, thinking you'd get away with it. It doesn't matter how much you donated, or how much you contribute, there is no way you can your accounts/items back. Many respected players/donators have been banned for cheating the system, your not the first.

I had more arguments but I forgot them over the course of the day. Lesson learnt.

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Re: Banned Account When i used to play AnimaRO for supposably "AD FRAUDING"
« Reply #29 on: December 23, 2007, 03:53:06 am »
obviously DIRTY SANCHEZ did not read my thread. I ONLY GAINES 30$ FROM AD FRAUDING. It was a simple mistake I now realize and i get taht the GM banned me because, i did indeed ad fraud but it wasnt worth it since t9hey knew i stopped and i instead donated from my money but the GMS didnt care. hopefully GM TALIS can understand. if he see's the transfers from the BANK.

You'r right I didn't read it properly, it was 3am, sorry. However, my comment was only partially directed at you (again, sorry it wasn't worded well). I was more shocked by the fact that US players are able to get access to $50 ad credit for nothing. While others, in particular Shane (/pat) got given shit. It just shows how much the sponsers ruined AnimaRo, ad fruaders and discrimination was a factor that led to it's demise. Hopefully, Anthem doesn't tread in these footsteps and god forbid if we ever have to see sponsers ever again.

For some reason as I was pushing my lawn mower and trimming hedges (I'm a gardener by trade) this damn thread was on my mind. Now comes the time I move to you Mr.Assassin.  Firstly your tone and CAPITAL letters piss me off as well as your feudal attempts to present yourself as the victim, sorry but it's true.
Ok, You say this happened in January, this year? Mate, I've been here for a long time trust me. I know for a fact that 'Ad frauding' was way before your time here, and was a rule. By playing this game, you must read the rules before playing. There is no excuse.
I must admit, I even considered ad frauding when I first came here, but out of respect and logic, I never did. How could you believe you'd get away with it? Did you think you were the only one who'd try to fraud the system?
I do feel a little sympathy for you though, if your a kid (well, I don't really know that) working for something that you desire, only to loose it. At the same time, that annoys me too, two months of hard work you say? Hmm, I've been here 18 months starting from scratch, now that's hard work =/

I'm sorry you lost your money, I really am (only because your a kid), but as you may have heard "cheaters never prosper". Didn't anyone tell you that? It may've only been $30 to you, but consider the wider implications, if you can. Such as Shane and I, who work hard to get somewhere, as well as the servers image, and economy.
Also, the correct thing to do was to inform a GM immediatly about your 'accidental' ad fraud, it's not hard. I wouldn't have risked $80 of your 'real' money for an extra $30. I even ask if I can bot here for testing purposes for god sakes, It gets turned down, but at leased I ask. By complaining after the ban had been implemented, it makes you look desperate and weak, as if you expected to get away with it. "I don't do it anymore" is not very conincing either, considering you kept the benifits until the very end.
It's heart warming to feel the GMs did their job, and I'm proud of them, they work hard (I think? I get this image of them sitting with beers in hands laughing at things like this, I don't know why?).

All you had to do was post in the forums, pm a GM (hey that rhymes!) or support ticket when you noticed what had happened. You didn't. Instead waited for them to get you, thinking you'd get away with it. It doesn't matter how much you donated, or how much you contribute, there is no way you can your accounts/items back. Many respected players/donators have been banned for cheating the system, your not the first.

I had more arguments but I forgot them over the course of the day. Lesson learnt.

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