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Should I have been Banned?

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Forgotten Experiment

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Re: Should I have been Banned?
« Reply #15 on: July 31, 2013, 03:51:51 am »
It isn't so bad to start over :) People here said that starting up now is easier than starting up in the past  :laugh: Maybe you can try and see if that is true. Without getting any help from anyone...

Yeah... I tend to not want to Trade people whos Zeny is made from AFKing in a place no one goes to with a Bio and a Whitesmith then get banned for doing a transaction as if it was RWT.

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Re: Should I have been Banned?
« Reply #16 on: July 31, 2013, 06:30:35 am »
These types of bannings without supporting facts are not good for the server. Merely basing things off IP isn't good.

If that was the case, I can go mask my real IP with a proxy and break rules and lose nothing, right? Anyways, it's a little screwed up. Hoping they add more logging eventually. Shame on the other eAthena developers. Unless this is the same system Gravity came up with. We all know how well Gravity does their job.

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Re: Should I have been Banned?
« Reply #17 on: August 01, 2013, 01:47:51 am »
These types of bannings without supporting facts are not good for the server. Merely basing things off IP isn't good.

If that was the case, I can go mask my real IP with a proxy and break rules and lose nothing, right? Anyways, it's a little screwed up. Hoping they add more logging eventually. Shame on the other eAthena developers. Unless this is the same system Gravity came up with. We all know how well Gravity does their job.

*Stares at Renewal.*

What if it was just like how a Virus works, the Medical one...

1. To many people
2. Virus
3. Kills people
4. Fixes problem of having to many people? Haha...
99. I am so freaking stupid.

If someone in game is rich, doing large transactions, why not bann both or any involved?

1. Takes Zeny out of the game
2. They know the Player will stay and start over
3. Takes Zeny out of the Game.

Well not exactly out of the game, more likely just sits there with nothing to do at all.

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Re: Should I have been Banned?
« Reply #18 on: August 01, 2013, 06:27:35 am »
Eh, I don't think so. I think there are some SERIOUS flaws but I do not think the staff would do that.

Not to mention that if they did, it would ultimately hurt the server. Most call me crazy for staying here, considering the current player count.

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Re: Should I have been Banned?
« Reply #19 on: August 01, 2013, 09:12:13 am »
These types of bannings without supporting facts are not good for the server. Merely basing things off IP isn't good.

If that was the case, I can go mask my real IP with a proxy and break rules and lose nothing, right?

No, you'd lose the account that was breaking the rules for sure. (Someone else was using your account to do bad things? This is why you're not supposed to share your account information.) Then we could check the IP history of the account that logged in and it's usually easy to piece the rest together from there.

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Re: Should I have been Banned?
« Reply #20 on: August 01, 2013, 04:46:20 pm »
Sadly, if a relative or a sibling started playing this Server and didn't happen to know what would happen after Voting the other player suddenly gets banned not knowing...

Accidental vote frauding can be prevented by making sure that you are the only player from your IP!

GM Izuzu

Making sure? By what? Trying to block the website throughout the rest of the computers in the house?
Could've at least made it say, 1 per household or something...

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Re: Should I have been Banned?
« Reply #21 on: August 01, 2013, 05:27:08 pm »
Except if someone else in the same household tried to vote, they shouldn't be able to, because only 1 person per IP can actually vote. So, they would need to go out of their way to vote.

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Re: Should I have been Banned?
« Reply #22 on: August 01, 2013, 05:50:13 pm »
Except if someone else in the same household tried to vote, they shouldn't be able to, because only 1 person per IP can actually vote. So, they would need to go out of their way to vote.

Was it like this since the first day of Voting was available?...

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Re: Should I have been Banned?
« Reply #23 on: August 01, 2013, 07:31:05 pm »
You ever read the voting rules dude?

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Re: Should I have been Banned?
« Reply #24 on: August 01, 2013, 08:04:30 pm »
You ever read the voting rules dude?

Yes I have @SukiChii....

I knew my accounts were going to get banned... Huge reason why my 'brother' Voted. To get me banned...

Just doesn't feel right to get banned for something I didn't want to happen and didn't actually do, I am not a computer guy but hoped they tracked his accounts rather then all of mines...

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Re: Should I have been Banned?
« Reply #25 on: August 01, 2013, 08:10:46 pm »
Here's the thing. The staff members basically tell us to not share accounts/IPs/etc.

However, it's the staffs job to be able to protect us as players too. Adding a second layer of identification is not only easy, but useful for the staff members and community.

Not trying to rebel or be an ass. It's just something that all developers should have in place. At least from my point of view.

-> Besides all of above and the slow response time on tickets recently, I am VERY impressed with ALL of the content updates provided to us. <-

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Re: Should I have been Banned?
« Reply #26 on: August 01, 2013, 08:56:04 pm »
Here's the thing. The staff members basically tell us to not share accounts/IPs/etc.

However, it's the staffs job to be able to protect us as players too. Adding a second layer of identification is not only easy, but useful for the staff members and community.

Not trying to rebel or be an ass. It's just something that all developers should have in place. At least from my point of view.

-> Besides all of above and the slow response time on tickets recently, I am VERY impressed with ALL of the content updates provided to us. <-

I never really had a problem with Response time on tickets ever and always impressed with the content GMs has also been giving out to the server...

But yeah I see your point of identification...

How does the system work with those countries who have IPs that change all the time? Is it India? Not very sure.

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Re: Should I have been Banned?
« Reply #27 on: August 01, 2013, 08:58:45 pm »
How does the system work with those countries who have IPs that change all the time? Is it India? Not very sure.

Not allowed to vote.

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Re: Should I have been Banned?
« Reply #28 on: August 01, 2013, 09:23:13 pm »
Except if someone else in the same household tried to vote, they shouldn't be able to, because only 1 person per IP can actually vote. So, they would need to go out of their way to vote.

Was it like this since the first day of Voting was available?...

It has been since I've been on staff?

Here's the thing. The staff members basically tell us to not share accounts/IPs/etc.

However, it's the staffs job to be able to protect us as players too.

We offer item/account recoveries for those that chose to not follow the rules and lend their shiz. Not sure if what you're getting has been scammed or not? Make a ticket! My brother/spouse/uncle/ingame wife/ingame bff stole all my items and I thought I could trust them! Make a ticket! Besides hiding in your closet, or the closet of the person who has scammed you, there isn't much else we can do to "protect" you.

I would make more comments about IPs and reference your ticket, but I feel that is private.

And slow response time to tickets? bish plz. <_> Tickets are generally answered within 1-2 days, and spend credits are done every 2-3 for the most part. It's easier to do a few together. Your guild leader change took longer because I had to confirm whether or not we would actually transfer guild leadership from a banned account to a regular account. I've been spending more of my time trying to finish clearing up the rest of the backlog tickets, and have been quite successful on almost clearing all of them.

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Re: Should I have been Banned?
« Reply #29 on: August 01, 2013, 09:41:37 pm »
^ Was that all directed to Lav, or is it actually possible to make a recovery on my character Q_Q~~~