Has MVP vit been reduced after the switch?

[Katakana]

Just because you don't want it to go mean it cannot you know :x

[pranetcoolman]

So bios gonna be useless against good mvp's the best class for mvp is now champ...

There are maybe like what, 5 ghost MVP's in the game?
Against every other MVP's a bragi'd AD still gives the highest damage output.

champs have a higher damage output than bio's. If you look at the lineup of ifrit/valk/satan morroc teams after the switch, they are filled with champs and HP's.
I have access to a friends champ gears, i could hit 2 mil asuras on a lexed mvp and with pally/dancer buffs.
Im just saying, bios are really disadvantaged after the switch.    

What are you using a Triple AK Suiken ? Show a screenie of your damage and gears .

i dont have access to RO atm and i really cant post his gears here, he wouldent like that :x He does use a suiken carded for mvping though. Its easy to hit 2 mil hits on some mvp's, and compare that damage with a bio's AD and you can see what i mean

ur right.
he wouldnt >.>

[G-Star]

i know what he uses
but secret if he wont say i don't say too

[AL]

Just because you don't want it to go mean it cannot you know :x

it would be easier to get an asura nerf accepted than disabling GJ. Champs would not be the only class affected if GJ is disabled

So bios gonna be useless against good mvp's the best class for mvp is now champ...

There are maybe like what, 5 ghost MVP's in the game?
Against every other MVP's a bragi'd AD still gives the highest damage output.

champs have a higher damage output than bio's. If you look at the lineup of ifrit/valk/satan morroc teams after the switch, they are filled with champs and HP's.
I have access to a friends champ gears, i could hit 2 mil asuras on a lexed mvp and with pally/dancer buffs.
Im just saying, bios are really disadvantaged after the switch.    

What are you using a Triple AK Suiken ? Show a screenie of your damage and gears .

i dont have access to RO atm and i really cant post his gears here, he wouldent like that :x He does use a suiken carded for mvping though. Its easy to hit 2 mil hits on some mvp's, and compare that damage with a bio's AD and you can see what i mean

ur right.
he wouldnt >.>

check your cell plox

[pranetcoolman]

Just because you don't want it to go mean it cannot you know :x

it would be easier to get an asura nerf accepted than disabling GJ. Champs would not be the only class affected if GJ is disabled

So bios gonna be useless against good mvp's the best class for mvp is now champ...

There are maybe like what, 5 ghost MVP's in the game?
Against every other MVP's a bragi'd AD still gives the highest damage output.

champs have a higher damage output than bio's. If you look at the lineup of ifrit/valk/satan morroc teams after the switch, they are filled with champs and HP's.
I have access to a friends champ gears, i could hit 2 mil asuras on a lexed mvp and with pally/dancer buffs.
Im just saying, bios are really disadvantaged after the switch.    

What are you using a Triple AK Suiken ? Show a screenie of your damage and gears .

i dont have access to RO atm and i really cant post his gears here, he wouldent like that :x He does use a suiken carded for mvping though. Its easy to hit 2 mil hits on some mvp's, and compare that damage with a bio's AD and you can see what i mean

ur right.
he wouldnt >.>

check your cell plox

ya ya dont worry i'll put it back(when im not feeling lazy )

[AL]

Just because you don't want it to go mean it cannot you know :x

it would be easier to get an asura nerf accepted than disabling GJ. Champs would not be the only class affected if GJ is disabled

So bios gonna be useless against good mvp's the best class for mvp is now champ...

There are maybe like what, 5 ghost MVP's in the game?
Against every other MVP's a bragi'd AD still gives the highest damage output.

champs have a higher damage output than bio's. If you look at the lineup of ifrit/valk/satan morroc teams after the switch, they are filled with champs and HP's.
I have access to a friends champ gears, i could hit 2 mil asuras on a lexed mvp and with pally/dancer buffs.
Im just saying, bios are really disadvantaged after the switch.   

What are you using a Triple AK Suiken ? Show a screenie of your damage and gears .

i dont have access to RO atm and i really cant post his gears here, he wouldent like that :x He does use a suiken carded for mvping though. Its easy to hit 2 mil hits on some mvp's, and compare that damage with a bio's AD and you can see what i mean

ur right.
he wouldnt >.>

check your cell plox

ya ya dont worry i'll put it back(when im not feeling lazy )

meh i thought it was off as usual

[Aozora]

what makes champs broken in this server is not the gears, it's not the IC, but the way we can get gj here
1 mil worth of GJ lasts for a lot of asuras
and how to get 1 mil? 20 mins in nif

The problem with this is that it'd have a huge impact on a lot of other classes as well. If there's something wrong with champs then the change should only be directed to champs, not everything else as well. If a skill is broken best idea is to mod the skill, or edit something that greatly affects the skill, not something that's central to every other SP reliant class as well.

[pepesmith]

If you remove GJ in Aro, remove 2-2 class as well since they are not effective without GJ support!...

[kurip]

what makes champs broken in this server is not the gears, it's not the IC, but the way we can get gj here
1 mil worth of GJ lasts for a lot of asuras
and how to get 1 mil? 20 mins in nif

The problem with this is that it'd have a huge impact on a lot of other classes as well. If there's something wrong with champs then the change should only be directed to champs, not everything else as well. If a skill is broken best idea is to mod the skill, or edit something that greatly affects the skill, not something that's central to every other SP reliant class as well.

That was my opinion about the comment champs are broken due the aRO customs. For some reason i posted it in a thread in general questions and not in suggestions :/

If you remove GJ in Aro, remove 2-2 class as well since they are not effective without GJ support!...

ZOMG, HOW CAN PEOPLE IN OFFICIAL RO PLAY WITHOUT NPC GRAPES
I DON'T EVEN
/endfakedrama

srsly lol

[pepesmith]

lol... coz someone is thinking romove GJ NPC, which imho is f** ridiculus!..

Fix'd..XD

[G-Star]

is it topic about a suggestion about gj removing, then move to suggestion
or about
Has MVP vit been reduced after the switch?

[Neetox]

what makes champs broken in this server is not the gears, it's not the IC, but the way we can get gj here
1 mil worth of GJ lasts for a lot of asuras
and how to get 1 mil? 20 mins in nif

The problem with this is that it'd have a huge impact on a lot of other classes as well. If there's something wrong with champs then the change should only be directed to champs, not everything else as well. If a skill is broken best idea is to mod the skill, or edit something that greatly affects the skill, not something that's central to every other SP reliant class as well.

That was my opinion about the comment champs are broken due the aRO customs. For some reason i posted it in a thread in general questions and not in suggestions :/

If you remove GJ in Aro, remove 2-2 class as well since they are not effective without GJ support!...

ZOMG, HOW CAN PEOPLE IN OFFICIAL RO PLAY WITHOUT NPC GRAPES
I DON'T EVEN
/endfakedrama

srsly lol

They use blue pots. You can get 20 blue pots by donating 5 cents. Or just buy it from the many people selling em. Plus they play smarter. :p

[AL]

I dont even know what to think now. I was thinking of suggesting VIT reduction of MVP's, but what Aozora said is true

what makes champs broken in this server is not the gears, it's not the IC, but the way we can get gj here
1 mil worth of GJ lasts for a lot of asuras
and how to get 1 mil? 20 mins in nif

The problem with this is that it'd have a huge impact on a lot of other classes as well. If there's something wrong with champs then the change should only be directed to champs, not everything else as well. If a skill is broken best idea is to mod the skill, or edit something that greatly affects the skill, not something that's central to every other SP reliant class as well.

Since i doubt champs/asura will be nerfed, that still leaves Biochemists in an extremely unfair position, where nothing can be done. In short, one of the most expensive classes to play with poor results.(Talking about PVM mainly)

[redhairweasel]

what makes champs broken in this server is not the gears, it's not the IC, but the way we can get gj here
1 mil worth of GJ lasts for a lot of asuras
and how to get 1 mil? 20 mins in nif

The problem with this is that it'd have a huge impact on a lot of other classes as well. If there's something wrong with champs then the change should only be directed to champs, not everything else as well. If a skill is broken best idea is to mod the skill, or edit something that greatly affects the skill, not something that's central to every other SP reliant class as well.

That was my opinion about the comment champs are broken due the aRO customs. For some reason i posted it in a thread in general questions and not in suggestions :/

If you remove GJ in Aro, remove 2-2 class as well since they are not effective without GJ support!...

ZOMG, HOW CAN PEOPLE IN OFFICIAL RO PLAY WITHOUT NPC GRAPES
I DON'T EVEN
/endfakedrama

srsly lol

They use blue pots. You can get 20 blue pots by donating 5 cents. Or just buy it from the many people selling em. Plus they play smarter. :p

PvP and WoE yeah but idk if people really buy that Kafra Blues.
For PvM there are so many ways lol and Rideword + Nydhogg is so .
But one of the reason to play pserver is to reduce grinding and easy sp item is like a requirement tho.

[The Mystic]

I dont even know what to think now. I was thinking of suggesting VIT reduction of MVP's, but what Aozora said is true

what makes champs broken in this server is not the gears, it's not the IC, but the way we can get gj here
1 mil worth of GJ lasts for a lot of asuras
and how to get 1 mil? 20 mins in nif

The problem with this is that it'd have a huge impact on a lot of other classes as well. If there's something wrong with champs then the change should only be directed to champs, not everything else as well. If a skill is broken best idea is to mod the skill, or edit something that greatly affects the skill, not something that's central to every other SP reliant class as well.

Since i doubt champs/asura will be nerfed, that still leaves Biochemists in an extremely unfair position, where nothing can be done. In short, one of the most expensive classes to play with poor results.(Talking about PVM mainly)

What happened to that 50% extra damage with AD I saw on djinn before? Why was it removed? Also we could add a small int bonus for sp/regen/dmg
even if it's just 10.
I think the 50% AD bonus should of stayed. Bios chip out more money per AD than champs do per asura. (And champs do more while being cost effective? At least more than Bios.)
Champs aren't easily stopped by Swall while Pneuma hurts Bios more badly.