Linmakana's Advanced AnimusRO Recording Guide [Major Update! v2.0]

[Linmakana]

FFDS works wonders, however VirtualDub only supports AVI naturally. You'll have to find plugins to support other file types.

[4n0nym0u5]

FFDS works wonders, however VirtualDub only supports AVI naturally. You'll have to find plugins to support other file types.

Ah ok cause my 5 minute tutorial seems too big around 60MB. Even though I lowered the quality and changed the compressor to Xvid it was still huge. The only way I got to make smaller was using Format Factory, I'm still trying to figure out how to make it smaller just using VirtualDub with FFDshow.

[Linmakana]

I think I explained it pretty well in the guide. FFDS reduces file size a lot with little quality loss using the setting I recommend, and it doesn't leave a watermark like Xvid/DivX.

[4n0nym0u5]

I think I explained it pretty well in the guide. FFDS reduces file size a lot with little quality loss using the setting I recommend, and it doesn't leave a watermark like Xvid/DivX.

Yea I followed every single step for the compression. Maybe there's something wrong with the encoding process, I'll try reinstall VDub and FFDshow.

[Linmakana]

Try using VirtualDubMod. It might work for you,, I'm not sure.

http://sourceforge.net/projects/virtualdubmod/files/

[InterSpectra]

Ah ok cause my 5 minute tutorial seems too big around 60MB. Even though I lowered the quality and changed the compressor to Xvid it was still huge. The only way I got to make smaller was using Format Factory, I'm still trying to figure out how to make it smaller just using VirtualDub with FFDshow.

A final cut render of 5 Minutes being 60 MB (in my opinion) is on the small size. Youtube automatically re-transcodes the video to conform with its own specifications, but your original raw upload file ultimately determines the final quality result. Smaller filesizes means less data for Youtube to work with when transcoding your upload file.

Here are some real example figures of 720p video filesizes streamed off Youtube (All include links, some are mine, some are Callysto's):

• 3 Minutes and 00 Seconds - 112 MB (Lots of fast motion/scene switching = more data needed)
• 4 Minutes and 21 Seconds - 66.5 MB (Lots of repeating colors/lack of change between frames = less data needed)
• 6 Minutes and 04 Seconds - 113 MB
• 7 Minutes and 07 Seconds - 132 MB
• 7 Minutes and 26 Seconds - 167 MB
• 8 Minutes and 22 Seconds - 206 MB

Also, I checked out your advertisement video, and your 720p filesize from Youtube was 37.1 MB *but your original file uploaded to mediashare was only 23.8 MB*
How does that work? It means after transcoding Youtube's bitrate was higher than yours (Their 720p files use H.264 AVC     ~3 Mbps VBR).


In my experience 1080p videos on Youtube don't look as good as 720p. Unless you're recording near 1920x1080 resolutions I suggest you re-adjust your RO window size to 1280x720. I have tried many different combinations for 1080p uploads on Youtube and was unable to get a crisp picture, unless it was a raw Fraps upload.

Here's a 1080p example:
Video length is 32 seconds.
I forgot my raw file encode stats, may have been 12 (18 Max) Mbps 2-pass VBR

Final cut render size: 38.03 MB
Youtube's filesize: 14.8 MB

Hope this helps.

[Linmakana]

I can't Frap anymore, my graphics card is broken. Until I get a new laptop, looks like I won't be doing anything for a while.

I don't have Adobe Premier and I don't feel like torrenting one. 
VirtualDub does fine for me, with encoding and basic cutting scenes.

[4n0nym0u5]

Ah ok cause my 5 minute tutorial seems too big around 60MB. Even though I lowered the quality and changed the compressor to Xvid it was still huge. The only way I got to make smaller was using Format Factory, I'm still trying to figure out how to make it smaller just using VirtualDub with FFDshow.

A final cut render of 5 Minutes being 60 MB (in my opinion) is on the small size. Youtube automatically re-transcodes the video to conform with its own specifications, but your original raw upload file ultimately determines the final quality result. Smaller filesizes means less data for Youtube to work with when transcoding your upload file.

Here are some real example figures of 720p video filesizes streamed off Youtube (All include links, some are mine, some are Callysto's):

• 3 Minutes and 00 Seconds - 112 MB (Lots of fast motion/scene switching = more data needed)
• 4 Minutes and 21 Seconds - 66.5 MB (Lots of repeating colors/lack of change between frames = less data needed)
• 6 Minutes and 04 Seconds - 113 MB
• 7 Minutes and 07 Seconds - 132 MB
• 7 Minutes and 26 Seconds - 167 MB
• 8 Minutes and 22 Seconds - 206 MB

Also, I checked out your advertisement video, and your 720p filesize from Youtube was 37.1 MB *but your original file uploaded to mediashare was only 23.8 MB*
How does that work? It means after transcoding Youtube's bitrate was higher than yours (Their 720p files use H.264 AVC     ~3 Mbps VBR).


In my experience 1080p videos on Youtube don't look as good as 720p. Unless you're recording near 1920x1080 resolutions I suggest you re-adjust your RO window size to 1280x720. I have tried many different combinations for 1080p uploads on Youtube and was unable to get a crisp picture, unless it was a raw Fraps upload.

Here's a 1080p example:
Video length is 32 seconds.
I forgot my raw file encode stats, may have been 12 (18 Max) Mbps 2-pass VBR

Final cut render size: 38.03 MB
Youtube's filesize: 14.8 MB

Hope this helps.

Yes I try to make my uploads 20MB - 30MB with an acceptable quality as my uploads speed is only 20kbps. It really takes a really long time for me to upload even a 10MB video.

[InterSpectra]

Yes I try to make my uploads 20MB - 30MB with an acceptable quality as my uploads speed is only 20kbps. It really takes a really long time for me to upload even a 10MB video.

Oh I see, that's too bad yeah :<
If there's a place you can go to to leech some free and fast internet for uploading, you wouldn't have to worry too much about filesize. Though I haven't been able to make videos recently, I've uploaded at my university since my home internet sucks too (40 Kbps upload max), whereas at my uni a 350 MB file can be uploaded in less than 5 minutes.

For your final advertisement cut, I recommend a high bitrate and either upload overnight (at your upload speeds 300 MB will take about 7 hours), or find another place to upload. I realize you're under bandwidth constraints, and I mean no offense, but to use an analogy, imagine a paper advertisement that's been folded or scrunched up; people would pay less attention to it, even if the advertisement itself was really well made. You can always render a smaller sized version for us to check and offer suggestions to, but for your absolute final video, maybe render above Youtube bitrates at the very least?

[Linmakana]

I go to the local college to upload my videos, they have their own self-contained ISP and I have a few friends who work there.

[4n0nym0u5]

Yes I try to make my uploads 20MB - 30MB with an acceptable quality as my uploads speed is only 20kbps. It really takes a really long time for me to upload even a 10MB video.

Oh I see, that's too bad yeah :<
If there's a place you can go to to leech some free and fast internet for uploading, you wouldn't have to worry too much about filesize. Though I haven't been able to make videos recently, I've uploaded at my university since my home internet sucks too (40 Kbps upload max), whereas at my uni a 350 MB file can be uploaded in less than 5 minutes.

For your final advertisement cut, I recommend a high bitrate and either upload overnight (at your upload speeds 300 MB will take about 7 hours), or find another place to upload. I realize you're under bandwidth constraints, and I mean no offense, but to use an analogy, imagine a paper advertisement that's been folded or scrunched up; people would pay less attention to it, even if the advertisement itself was really well made. You can always render a smaller sized version for us to check and offer suggestions to, but for your absolute final video, maybe render above Youtube bitrates at the very least?

Yes I will try to do it overnight. If only I had a better graphics card, I could probably go for 1080i or 1080p. I'll try to overclock my PC if I have to really record at absolute acceptable quality. I currently use Camtasia Studio for advance editing and Windows Movie Maker for the final product. Since I'm starting v2.4 of the advertisement, I'll try my very best to get good quality (perhaps around 1000-3000kbps) Thanks for your advice.

[ikept]

I used HyperCam2 the video that i recorded seems a bit faster than the normal speed. How can change it?

[Linmakana]

That means you're recording at a faster FPS than aRO is running at. Try recording at different FPS' until you can find one that suits you. If you watch my Asterisk guild event video, you'll notice everything is faster as well.

[ikept]

Thanks. Ah one more thing its seems that i can't figure it out the microsoft encoder, i think mines a lil bit different when i opened the encoder on the left side it says "open job" then when i hit okay its kinda look like windows movie maker.

[Linmakana]

Yeah, Micro$oft changed Windows Media Encoder so I need to update the guide. Thanks for reminding me.

For now, simply replace the steps in the HyperCam guide with the steps from the Fraps guide. Read: VirtualDub