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Why is it that CK is better?!

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Why is it that CK is better?!
« on: November 22, 2009, 04:28:07 pm »
Like, I want an explanation !
Why in some cases a TTS Saber would do good in PVM and sometimes in PVP.
Like some I would do around 500 dmg in pvp to some.
Then all of a sudden I only do like 100 dmg but when i used the CK I did over 300. o_o"

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« Last Edit: November 22, 2009, 04:31:22 pm by phong »

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Re: Why is it that CK is better?!
« Reply #1 on: November 22, 2009, 04:35:05 pm »
Defense rapes your damage.

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Re: Why is it that CK is better?!
« Reply #2 on: November 22, 2009, 05:02:21 pm »
IP is better on those vit/def whores.






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Re: Why is it that CK is better?!
« Reply #3 on: November 22, 2009, 06:16:44 pm »
Not just that, but wouldn't a simple armor change be able to negate a lot of damage ?

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Re: Why is it that CK is better?!
« Reply #4 on: November 22, 2009, 06:26:13 pm »
Defence is split to two parts there is vit defence which is semi-usless and normal defence which people seek.

You will have like xx+xx DEF the normal defence will reduce damage in a percentage let's say you have 50+xx means all mele damage will be reduced by 50% .

TTS Saber do more but its damage get reduced by this defence while CK pierces it making it flat 0
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Re: Why is it that CK is better?!
« Reply #5 on: November 22, 2009, 06:29:49 pm »
Speaking of defense..how much would a +10 full plate go for do you think? ;O

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Re: Why is it that CK is better?!
« Reply #6 on: November 22, 2009, 06:41:57 pm »
Defence is split to two parts there is vit defence which is semi-usless and normal defence which people seek.

You will have like xx+xx DEF the normal defence will reduce damage in a percentage let's say you have 50+xx means all mele damage will be reduced by 50% .

TTS Saber do more but its damage get reduced by this defence while CK pierces it making it flat 0
Oh, so CK is more for opponents with high def then usual?
And the saber would come in with those with less def with pretty much no def?

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Re: Why is it that CK is better?!
« Reply #7 on: November 22, 2009, 06:51:49 pm »
Defence is split to two parts there is vit defence which is semi-usless and normal defence which people seek.

You will have like xx+xx DEF the normal defence will reduce damage in a percentage let's say you have 50+xx means all mele damage will be reduced by 50% .

TTS Saber do more but its damage get reduced by this defence while CK pierces it making it flat 0
Oh, so CK is more for opponents with high def then usual?
And the saber would come in with those with less def with pretty much no def?

Most likely yea . For those classes who are well known with huge defence (aka LKs) I would use IP though sometimes swapping between CK and IP checking damage is good so you can choose which one is better for the one who you are dueling/fighting .

For TTS Saber most likely a well geared person can achieve 45~55 defence easily so it's less advised hence not everyone is well geared maybe you will find many soft people .
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Re: Why is it that CK is better?!
« Reply #8 on: November 22, 2009, 07:34:01 pm »
Defence is split to two parts there is vit defence which is semi-usless and normal defence which people seek.

You will have like xx+xx DEF the normal defence will reduce damage in a percentage let's say you have 50+xx means all mele damage will be reduced by 50% .

TTS Saber do more but its damage get reduced by this defence while CK pierces it making it flat 0
Oh, so CK is more for opponents with high def then usual?
And the saber would come in with those with less def with pretty much no def?

Most likely yea . For those classes who are well known with huge defence (aka LKs) I would use IP though sometimes swapping between CK and IP checking damage is good so you can choose which one is better for the one who you are dueling/fighting .

For TTS Saber most likely a well geared person can achieve 45~55 defence easily so it's less advised hence not everyone is well geared maybe you will find many soft people .
Someone said I should just sell my sword since it's "crap". Do you agree?
Since CK's doesn't require as much AGI for 190 ASPD.

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Re: Why is it that CK is better?!
« Reply #9 on: November 22, 2009, 07:43:29 pm »
I can't think any great side having TTS saber, probably someone else will. They can't double attack either unless you put side winder on one slot.
However SSS saber might useful for some skills like grand cross and soul destroyer (combined with ice pick, or elemental weapon but I am not sure about switching part).

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« Reply #10 on: November 22, 2009, 07:58:17 pm »
I can't think any great side having TTS saber, probably someone else will. They can't double attack either unless you put side winder on one slot.
However SSS saber might useful for some skills like grand cross and soul destroyer (combined with ice pick, or elemental weapon but I am not sure about switching part).

PvM ?

Defence is split to two parts there is vit defence which is semi-usless and normal defence which people seek.

You will have like xx+xx DEF the normal defence will reduce damage in a percentage let's say you have 50+xx means all mele damage will be reduced by 50% .

TTS Saber do more but its damage get reduced by this defence while CK pierces it making it flat 0
Oh, so CK is more for opponents with high def then usual?
And the saber would come in with those with less def with pretty much no def?

Most likely yea . For those classes who are well known with huge defence (aka LKs) I would use IP though sometimes swapping between CK and IP checking damage is good so you can choose which one is better for the one who you are dueling/fighting .

For TTS Saber most likely a well geared person can achieve 45~55 defence easily so it's less advised hence not everyone is well geared maybe you will find many soft people .
Someone said I should just sell my sword since it's "crap". Do you agree?
Since CK's doesn't require as much AGI for 190 ASPD.


As I have said TTS is kinda a crab in PvP you are better off with +7 CK/+7 Ice pick even +4 works better yet if you PvM/MvP then you are better off keeping it .
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Re: Why is it that CK is better?!
« Reply #11 on: November 22, 2009, 11:44:04 pm »
I prefer those cards on gladius on PvM because I don't want to miss out double attack or one slot X__X

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Re: Why is it that CK is better?!
« Reply #12 on: November 23, 2009, 06:52:55 am »
so 100 def will reduce melee dmg to 0%?
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Re: Why is it that CK is better?!
« Reply #13 on: November 23, 2009, 07:17:35 am »
Defence is split to two parts there is vit defence which is semi-usless and normal defence which people seek.

You will have like xx+xx DEF the normal defence will reduce damage in a percentage let's say you have 50+xx means all physical damage will be reduced by 50% .

TTS Saber do more but its damage get reduced by this defence while CK pierces it making it flat 0

Fix'd. That applies to practically everything except magic and some skills which ignore DEF. Other than that DEF reduces any and all physical damage.

so 100 def will reduce melee dmg to 0%?

Technically it should, however it doesn't. Any damage that is under 1 is rounded up to 1 unless it's elemental damage and you have 100% immunity to that element. So with 100 or more DEF every single physical attack will hit you for 1 damage. Except when someone decides to pull out that IP and totally rape you.

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Re: Why is it that CK is better?!
« Reply #14 on: November 24, 2009, 02:39:23 am »
assumptio should reduce the dmg to 0
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