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Question about Zeny+Gearing

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Question about Zeny+Gearing
« on: November 11, 2009, 09:40:18 am »
Pretty soon I'm going to have a scholar I have dex gears and 7m to work with and a devi

What gears should i get? Should i sell the devi? I want a berz would that help?

Things to know: I'm not one of those super rich people and i don't earn zeny all that great..

Can you help?
« Last Edit: November 11, 2009, 09:47:45 am by DaRkNeSs121 »
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Re: Question about Zeny+Gearing
« Reply #1 on: November 11, 2009, 10:06:13 am »
Pretty soon I'm going to have a scholar I have dex gears and 7m to work with and a devi

What gears should i get? Should i sell the devi? I want a berz would that help?

Things to know: I'm not one of those super rich people and i don't earn zeny all that great..

Can you help?

As you go up in job with a scholar, you tend to need less dex gears for IC (also depends on how much dex you stack---I wear one less sting glove while stating around 80-83? base dex with my kaho/tome.  Might even need less now but I haven't tested it recently).

If you have Moonlight Flower/Gargoyle shoes, 2 sting gloves, dex's survivor rod/tome, stem worm muffler, kaho---should be fine.

A berze set would never give you full IC without bragi.

Plus dual berze = 36~40 mil, Dark Illusion mid = ~22 mil, and DL shoes = 20~22 mil = quite expensive to get decent cast reduction in comparison to the IC set.
« Last Edit: November 11, 2009, 10:09:06 am by Muranodo »

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Re: Question about Zeny+Gearing
« Reply #2 on: November 11, 2009, 10:11:00 am »
Pretty soon I'm going to have a scholar I have dex gears and 7m to work with and a devi

What gears should i get? Should i sell the devi? I want a berz would that help?

Things to know: I'm not one of those super rich people and i don't earn zeny all that great..

Can you help?

As you go up in job with a scholar, you tend to need less dex gears for IC (also depends on how much dex you stack---I wear one less sting glove while stating around 80-83? base dex with my kaho/tome.  Might even need less now but I haven't tested it recently).

If you have Moonlight Flower/Gargoyle shoes, 2 sting gloves, dex's survivor rod/tome, stem worm muffler, kaho---should be fine.

A berze set would never give you full IC without bragi.

Plus dual berze = 36~40 mil, Dark Illusion mid = ~22 mil, and DL shoes = 20~22 mil = quite expensive to get decent cast reduction in comparison to the IC set.
compared to the ic set huh okay how much does the stuff you listed (excluding kaho+tome cuz i can never afford) cost?
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Re: Question about Zeny+Gearing
« Reply #3 on: November 11, 2009, 10:18:28 am »
Pretty soon I'm going to have a scholar I have dex gears and 7m to work with and a devi

What gears should i get? Should i sell the devi? I want a berz would that help?

Things to know: I'm not one of those super rich people and i don't earn zeny all that great..

Can you help?

As you go up in job with a scholar, you tend to need less dex gears for IC (also depends on how much dex you stack---I wear one less sting glove while stating around 80-83? base dex with my kaho/tome.  Might even need less now but I haven't tested it recently).

If you have Moonlight Flower/Gargoyle shoes, 2 sting gloves, dex's survivor rod/tome, stem worm muffler, kaho---should be fine.

A berze set would never give you full IC without bragi.

Plus dual berze = 36~40 mil, Dark Illusion mid = ~22 mil, and DL shoes = 20~22 mil = quite expensive to get decent cast reduction in comparison to the IC set.
compared to the ic set huh okay how much does the stuff you listed (excluding kaho+tome cuz i can never afford) cost?

Moonlight Flower is a MVP card so the shoes seem to be 22~24 mil?  I personally had a load of ADs and bought the MF card myself back when I started getting serious about IC and put it in +7 shoes (2 mil).

2 sting gloves --- I farmed the glove (1)s from stings to help level my recently made scholar/professor as well as leveled my bard there a little (fire arrows + bow = /gg).  They seem to vary from 6-8 mil per; you can always sell the gloves.

Alternate to MF: Gargoyle - same map---I got this card while farming the glove (1s).  I think I sold it for 5 or 6 mil.  When in shoes they cost about the same.

Dex Survivor's Rod (dex version) - 1 mil + a drops card I had on hand---probably like 1.1 mil if you buy a drops.

Stem Worm = 3-6 mil depending on refine rate of the muffler its usually in.  I bought a +4 for cheap.  3-4 mil I think /hmm

So even at the extreme in price you have = 16 mil (stings) + Gargoyle 6 mil + Dex SR 1.1 mil + Stem Worm 6 mil = 29.1 mil vs around 84 mil (still in the 60 mil range if you remove DL shoes just to get back your HP/SP lost by DI+ the additional HP boost).
« Last Edit: November 11, 2009, 10:23:51 am by Muranodo »

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Re: Question about Zeny+Gearing
« Reply #4 on: November 11, 2009, 10:25:30 am »
true true but what i have so far to get me started is

x2 zerom clips (+6 dex)
x1 AOA
x1 quadruple drops rod (+4 dex)

i have 2 unslotted gloves i think how much do they sell for
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Re: Question about Zeny+Gearing
« Reply #5 on: November 11, 2009, 10:29:15 am »
true true but what i have so far to get me started is

x2 zerom clips (+6 dex)
x1 AOA
x1 quadruple drops rod (+4 dex)

i have 2 unslotted gloves i think how much do they sell for

Quadruple drops rod is fine.  It gives the same as a dex survivor's rod but without the HP Boost.

I tend to keep it + zerom clips on my super novice.

Unslotted gloves don't really sell for much now.  Could try 50~100k.  A number of people get them daily out of the OVB they get from the Halloween event.

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« Reply #6 on: November 11, 2009, 10:32:11 am »
true true but what i have so far to get me started is

x2 zerom clips (+6 dex)
x1 AOA
x1 quadruple drops rod (+4 dex)

i have 2 unslotted gloves i think how much do they sell for

Quadruple drops rod is fine.  It gives the same as a dex survivor's rod but without the HP Boost.

I tend to keep it + zerom clips on my super novice.

Unslotted gloves don't really sell for much now.  Could try 50~100k.  A number of people get them daily out of the OVB they get from the Halloween event.
so should i hold on to the zeroms or sell em to save for the other dex stuff and according to people everywhere devi wont go too much up even after the event im considering selling it now
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Re: Question about Zeny+Gearing
« Reply #7 on: November 11, 2009, 10:36:11 am »
true true but what i have so far to get me started is

x2 zerom clips (+6 dex)
x1 AOA
x1 quadruple drops rod (+4 dex)

i have 2 unslotted gloves i think how much do they sell for

Quadruple drops rod is fine.  It gives the same as a dex survivor's rod but without the HP Boost.

I tend to keep it + zerom clips on my super novice.

Unslotted gloves don't really sell for much now.  Could try 50~100k.  A number of people get them daily out of the OVB they get from the Halloween event.
so should i hold on to the zeroms or sell em to save for the other dex stuff and according to people everywhere devi wont go too much up even after the event im considering selling it now

Zeroms are also coming out the OCA gained from the event in large loads.  I think I have 12 or so now (I haven't been grind happy lately)---but I'm sure some players have 100+.

If you sold them, you'd probably get very little since they're not max dex gears.  I'd personally just use them until you can get other stuff.

As for selling deviling...

Do you have a deviling yourself?  It's largely useful for PvM, so you might want it for another character in the future.  It likely won't go up much in price for quite a while since they'll be floating around I'm sure in a much larger dosage than before---but most of the IC is fairly farmable / can be used to help level your characters---so I wouldn't waste money on it.

You could buy stem worm with your pocket change---

and farm stings/gargoyles into your 70s-80s while probably getting what you want.

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Re: Question about Zeny+Gearing
« Reply #8 on: November 11, 2009, 10:39:51 am »
true true but what i have so far to get me started is

x2 zerom clips (+6 dex)
x1 AOA
x1 quadruple drops rod (+4 dex)

i have 2 unslotted gloves i think how much do they sell for

Quadruple drops rod is fine.  It gives the same as a dex survivor's rod but without the HP Boost.

I tend to keep it + zerom clips on my super novice.

Unslotted gloves don't really sell for much now.  Could try 50~100k.  A number of people get them daily out of the OVB they get from the Halloween event.
so should i hold on to the zeroms or sell em to save for the other dex stuff and according to people everywhere devi wont go too much up even after the event im considering selling it now

Zeroms are also coming out the OCA gained from the event in large loads.  I think I have 12 or so now (I haven't been grind happy lately)---but I'm sure some players have 100+.

If you sold them, you'd probably get very little since they're not max dex gears.  I'd personally just use them until you can get other stuff.

As for selling deviling...

Do you have a deviling yourself?  It's largely useful for PvM, so you might want it for another character in the future.  It likely won't go up much in price for quite a while since they'll be floating around I'm sure in a much larger dosage than before---but most of the IC is fairly farmable / can be used to help level your characters---so I wouldn't waste money on it.

You could buy stem worm with your pocket change---

and farm stings/gargoyles into your 70s-80s while probably getting what you want.
well i won't be getting the scholar til tomorrow today or friday but maybe my stalker could farm dex stuff while leveling? now your saying i should use a devi muffler or something like don't sell it use it to help make money and get levels?
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Re: Question about Zeny+Gearing
« Reply #9 on: November 11, 2009, 10:45:06 am »
well i won't be getting the scholar til tomorrow today or friday but maybe my stalker could farm dex stuff while leveling? now your saying i should use a devi muffler or something like don't sell it use it to help make money and get levels?

A stalker should be fine if reasonably geared as long as you don't get stuck in the Stings' Quagmire.

Devi Mufflers are good in general for PvM since most monsters deal neutral dmg; it heavily reduces that damage.  I've only personally used them on builds in which I have Vit, however.


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Re: Question about Zeny+Gearing
« Reply #10 on: November 11, 2009, 10:47:40 am »
Would it work for killing stings the devi i mean
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Re: Question about Zeny+Gearing
« Reply #11 on: November 11, 2009, 10:55:29 am »
Would it work for killing stings the devi i mean

Yeah.  Though I normally ran flee for them on non-caster classes.

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Re: Question about Zeny+Gearing
« Reply #12 on: November 11, 2009, 10:57:46 am »
i have both flee and the devi
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« Reply #13 on: November 11, 2009, 10:58:07 am »
i have both flee and the devi

i need a muffler for the devi though
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Re: Question about Zeny+Gearing
« Reply #14 on: November 11, 2009, 11:12:48 am »
i have both flee and the devi

i need a muffler for the devi though

Might have to wait a while if you're wanting to buy a +7 due to the event.  Everyone is hording / waiting to up
them since elu is heavily coveted at the moment along with Ori.