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report/ban question?

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Katakana

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report/ban question?
« on: September 16, 2009, 05:28:52 pm »
yes i still look around the forum to see how u ppl r~

and was wondering

what happen if you get ban for thefting item but have proof of password sharing what happens next i u prove to gm? nothing or unban account :L

i duno if this is in rules or not but i will check like now  :laugh: because im not sure
そんな 退屈なフリして
今は 気分じゃないとか きっと キミは言うけど     
ホントは そうじゃない
どうだっていいみたい感じ
不器用な表情も好きだよ

みんながいる前では いつだってそう 
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こんなやつって態度して
見えない角度で手をつないできた

絶対的な信頼と 対照的な行動
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一方的な表現の ツンデレーション
キミが 好き わかりにくいね
Please don't try to lecture me on wizards any further. I played one since they were introduced.

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Re: report/ban question?
« Reply #1 on: September 16, 2009, 05:38:57 pm »
What happens next?  A niiiiicccceeee long wait. /ok

Katakana

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Re: report/ban question?
« Reply #2 on: September 16, 2009, 05:40:23 pm »
i hate more waiting :[
そんな 退屈なフリして
今は 気分じゃないとか きっと キミは言うけど     
ホントは そうじゃない
どうだっていいみたい感じ
不器用な表情も好きだよ

みんながいる前では いつだってそう 
まるで機嫌悪いみたい
こんなやつって態度して
見えない角度で手をつないできた

絶対的な信頼と 対照的な行動
絶望的な運命が ある日恋に変わる
一方的な表現の ツンデレーション
キミが 好き わかりにくいね
Please don't try to lecture me on wizards any further. I played one since they were introduced.

kthxbai

Cirran

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Re: report/ban question?
« Reply #3 on: September 16, 2009, 05:43:03 pm »
Atleast its a nice long one? We wouldn't want you having a horrid short one and missing out on the experiance.

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Re: report/ban question?
« Reply #4 on: September 16, 2009, 05:47:43 pm »
/ok
そんな 退屈なフリして
今は 気分じゃないとか きっと キミは言うけど     
ホントは そうじゃない
どうだっていいみたい感じ
不器用な表情も好きだよ

みんながいる前では いつだってそう 
まるで機嫌悪いみたい
こんなやつって態度して
見えない角度で手をつないできた

絶対的な信頼と 対照的な行動
絶望的な運命が ある日恋に変わる
一方的な表現の ツンデレーション
キミが 好き わかりにくいね
Please don't try to lecture me on wizards any further. I played one since they were introduced.

kthxbai

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Re: report/ban question?
« Reply #5 on: September 16, 2009, 06:16:27 pm »
yes i still look around the forum to see how u ppl r~

and was wondering

what happen if you get ban for thefting item but have proof of password sharing what happens next i u prove to gm? nothing or unban account :L

i duno if this is in rules or not but i will check like now  :laugh: because im not sure

So you got banned for stealing an item, but are wondering what would happen since someone gave you the password?

Well, an item, belongs to a player, much like a car, belongs to the owner. If the owner, gives you the keys to borrow, if you steal the car, would you go to jail still? Damn right you will. So if you steal the items that are on the account, will you get banned, even though they gave you the password? What do you think? Lol.
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Re: report/ban question?
« Reply #6 on: September 16, 2009, 06:26:31 pm »
yes i still look around the forum to see how u ppl r~

and was wondering

what happen if you get ban for thefting item but have proof of password sharing what happens next i u prove to gm? nothing or unban account :L

i duno if this is in rules or not but i will check like now  :laugh: because im not sure

So you got banned for stealing an item, but are wondering what would happen since someone gave you the password?

Well, an item, belongs to a player, much like a car, belongs to the owner. If the owner, gives you the keys to borrow, if you steal the car, would you go to jail still? Damn right you will. So if you steal the items that are on the account, will you get banned, even though they gave you the password? What do you think? Lol.
I think the person means if they got accused of stealing an item, when they were told they could borrow it, and it appeared on their account, since they had permission.
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Re: report/ban question?
« Reply #7 on: September 16, 2009, 10:05:00 pm »
I think the person means if they got accused of stealing an item, when they were told they could borrow it, and it appeared on their account, since they had permission.

oh. I interpreted it as he was sharing an account with someone and that someone stole another ppl's item
so he was thinking if he could proof that he was sharing an account with someone else and it was that someone else who did it, could he be unbanned lol.
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Re: report/ban question?
« Reply #8 on: September 17, 2009, 02:23:45 am »
I think the person means if they got accused of stealing an item, when they were told they could borrow it, and it appeared on their account, since they had permission.

oh. I interpreted it as he was sharing an account with someone and that someone stole another ppl's item
so he was thinking if he could proof that he was sharing an account with someone else and it was that someone else who did it, could he be unbanned lol.
@.@



i thought pw sharing was at ur own risk /ok
そんな 退屈なフリして
今は 気分じゃないとか きっと キミは言うけど     
ホントは そうじゃない
どうだっていいみたい感じ
不器用な表情も好きだよ

みんながいる前では いつだってそう 
まるで機嫌悪いみたい
こんなやつって態度して
見えない角度で手をつないできた

絶対的な信頼と 対照的な行動
絶望的な運命が ある日恋に変わる
一方的な表現の ツンデレーション
キミが 好き わかりにくいね
Please don't try to lecture me on wizards any further. I played one since they were introduced.

kthxbai

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Re: report/ban question?
« Reply #9 on: September 17, 2009, 02:26:59 am »
I think the person means if they got accused of stealing an item, when they were told they could borrow it, and it appeared on their account, since they had permission.

oh. I interpreted it as he was sharing an account with someone and that someone stole another ppl's item
so he was thinking if he could proof that he was sharing an account with someone else and it was that someone else who did it, could he be unbanned lol.
@.@



i thought pw sharing was at ur own risk /ok

so what do you mean? o.o




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Re: report/ban question?
« Reply #10 on: September 17, 2009, 05:15:10 am »
I think the person means if they got accused of stealing an item, when they were told they could borrow it, and it appeared on their account, since they had permission.

oh. I interpreted it as he was sharing an account with someone and that someone stole another ppl's item
so he was thinking if he could proof that he was sharing an account with someone else and it was that someone else who did it, could he be unbanned lol.
@.@



i thought pw sharing was at ur own risk /ok

That rule doesn't mean anything if the person you scammed pays the recovery fee of the item. :D





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Re: report/ban question?
« Reply #11 on: September 17, 2009, 05:51:14 am »
If he/she gave you the password it means they trust you which leads to one thing that they counted you as a friend yet you SCAMMED them !?

It's llike a thief saying "It's your fault for giving me your house keys"  ???
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Re: report/ban question?
« Reply #12 on: September 17, 2009, 05:54:11 am »
That rule doesn't mean anything if the person you scammed pays the recovery fee of the item. :D
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Re: report/ban question?
« Reply #13 on: September 17, 2009, 07:04:53 am »
To clear up some confusion:

1) Account Sharing is always risky. However, only really risky for the person who gives out their password, not for the one who borrows the item.

2) Should you borrow items and then get banned for supposedly "scamming", you can always make a ticket to prove your case. Keep in mind, screenshots once again are the best proof. But it also depends on other factors. Such as: Has the account that the gear originated from played in the meantime ? And most importantly, what is the story that the person who got scammed put up, where are the differencies ?

In other words, the handling staff member has to try and piece together the entire story. They will check when people logged in and what they did and generally do their best to evaluate the situation. To give a example; If account A allowed account B to borrow something, but then account B went and borrowed every last item, including Zeny of account A, and following that ceased any communication with account A, then it seems much more likely to be a scam over anything else ( especially if they also changed their password after scamming ).

It is always a case of evaluating and figuring out what really is going on. Pretty much detectives work. This is also something that takes a really long time since there are countless logs that need to be checked and evaluated.

3) The person who went and took the gear is mostly banned first, even while the GM is still figuring out what is going on. This is based on both suspicion and simply freezing of the gear. If a scammer knows we are on to them, they likely would react in a way where they would try and drop the items and get rid of them, which makes it much more of a pain in the ass for the GMs to track them down and re-roll the trades.

4) Should the person turn out to be a scammer, they will remain banned, should the person turn out to be innocent, they will be unbanned ( but the gear may or may not be confiscated depending on the circumstances )

In other words, Neetox, you are totally and entirely mistaken and I would like to ask you respectfully to not make up crap about how we handle cases.

Scammers are banned period. Regardless of any recovery was paid. The recovery fee is only to get the items back, nothing else. It does not influence the case in any way at all.

Basically, it's a fee to encourage people to take care with their items. As without such a fee, there would be around 30 to 50 new scam cases every day.
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