Discussion : SN + Vesper Optics?

[fatteh]

Last night, I saw an SN with a Vesper Optics on,,

possible?

[cis_trans]

Yeap, it is. Either intentional on the GMs part (lol benefit of the doubt?) or not , meaning very very very sloppy coding and carelessness on their part.


Either way. Looks cool and FUN omg. Snapping, call spirits, pneuma, Frost driver, Mammo with Mjol, melee with SoM or Evang. its hilarious. It's not broken, SNs still suffer from low HP mod, so its all good.

[Hard Weapon]

What happens if you rollback a Gunslinger with a Vesper Optics?  Does he lose the SQI?  Maybe thats what that person did..?

[skith]

Saw it just now and i think it's a roll back char

Our GMs fail to see people intentions 

Now fix it if you can a char got 2 sqi on 

[Talis]

Stop hating on the GM Team. We are aware of this and it is intentional and unless someone gives us good points as to why it should be fixed, it will remain the way it is.

2 SQI on one char is not a reason. We need details, facts why its suddenly zomg broken.

Fact imho is: SN still suck and are not competitive in the major PvP Leagues, hence let them have fun with some new powers. A boost to their strength does not equal OP-ed-ness.

Anyone who argues this, bring up points and examples with valid numbers

[Aryia]

Most fun I've had in RO for a long time. It's hella expensive though, all those SQIs and novice-only gear. I can't go around beating good champs or anything but it's still very fun. Lander's idea >:

[Goosebumps]

It should remain consistent. 

VO doesn't make the SN "broken", in fact it somewhat levels the playing field, giving them a little more mobility in exchange for what has always been a deficiency in hp and defense.

[skith]

Stop hating on the GM Team. We are aware of this and it is intentional and unless someone gives us good points as to why it should be fixed, it will remain the way it is.

I am even more shocked about doing it on purpose .

2 SQI on one char is not a reason. We need details, facts why its suddenly zomg broken.

You want facts ? Very simple .. you do know that SN have access to PvP non trans map and since they have access to Mjol/Djinn/SoM/Evang they have a great force
and even with shitty gears they still defeat many well geared classes .

Now with Vesper which i find the best SQI when it comes to defence ( 20% reduction from Elemental atacks ) and they can get more dex to reach IC which makes
possible to get more vit not to mention + 20% MHP from vesper along with DL sleps .
Oh wait they have Heal too .... Does that makes sense 

Fact imho is: SN still suck and are not competitive in the major PvP Leagues, hence let them have fun with some new powers. A boost to their strength does not equal OP-ed-ness.

Do they suck at PvP ? as i have said they don't beside that you don't know what a SN who makes MvP'ed Novice Gears will  do since the SNs with shitty gears are overpowered

We all know most players don't get mvp gears for novice since they are not universal but we shouldn't forget that some people might do that .. right Aryia 

Anyone who argues this, bring up points and examples with valid numbers

Is that not enough .. yet i will say it again SN have access to Non trans pvp map .

Actually there was a disccussion about making SN unable to equip SQI since they get great mele + magic power along with IC  with those SQI .
And now they get great tank 


Maybe i will post a video later to show you what i mean 

[exDragon]

Anyone who argues this, bring up points and examples with valid numbers

Is that not enough .. yet i will say it again SN have access to Non trans pvp map .

Actually there was a disccussion about making SN unable to equip SQI since they get great mele + magic power along with IC  with those SQI .
And now they get great tank 


Maybe i will post a video later to show you what i mean 

I'd rather see a set bonus that disables the SQI when equipped with another weapon SQI before this ever happens. 

P.S.  I am not suggesting that a SN being able to equip GS and weapon SQI is broken in any way as I have no opinion of that.

Stop hating on the GM Team. We are aware of this and it is intentional and unless someone gives us good points as to why it should be fixed, it will remain the way it is.

2 SQI on one char is not a reason. We need details, facts why its suddenly zomg broken.

Fact imho is: SN still suck and are not competitive in the major PvP Leagues, hence let them have fun with some new powers. A boost to their strength does not equal OP-ed-ness.

Anyone who argues this, bring up points and examples with valid numbers

Could you make it possible for a SN to make a gunslinger SQI so a roll back will not be necessary or have you already done this?

[DeePee]

It's an official feature, sorta. Super Novices who are linked can equip any headgear and any level 4 weapon as long as they are higher than level 96 I think. No clue if it's even possible to change this =/

[Novice Tenchi]

It's an official feature, sorta. Super Novices who are linked can equip any headgear and any level 4 weapon as long as they are higher than level 96 I think. No clue if it's even possible to change this =/

I don't believe it is unless you change a WHOLE lotta stuff.

[Jinya]

It's an official feature, sorta. Super Novices who are linked can equip any headgear and any level 4 weapon as long as they are higher than level 96 I think. No clue if it's even possible to change this =/

One way to counter this:

if(BaseJob==Job_Insert Class here)

Putting this before the bonuses gained means that only that base job, in this case a Gunslinger, can utilize them. So while others try to be slick and wear it, all they'd get out of it is a slot. I really don't like this 'feature', as well. Just another lucky exploit for them to take advantage of and getting away with less work, but hey...hurhurlowHP/SPmod, rite?

[balam]

they knew about it and doesnt need to be changed
http://www.anthemro.com/forums/index.php/topic,61265.msg1469637.html#msg1469637

[Combo]

I call pre-buff!

[Jinya]

Can my SL equip Staff of Magi, now?