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How To Counter Soul Breaker (TF vs Daggers)

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Re: How To Counter Soul Breaker (TF vs Daggers)
« Reply #15 on: August 01, 2009, 11:57:17 am »
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Re: How To Counter Soul Breaker (TF vs Daggers)
« Reply #16 on: August 01, 2009, 12:28:21 pm »
The problem with using elemental garments is you have to know what element the opponent is using. From what I heard they both use Sage enchants and other stuff.
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Re: How To Counter Soul Breaker (TF vs Daggers)
« Reply #17 on: August 01, 2009, 12:30:03 pm »
theres so many different elemental daggers that its not worth it unless u kno what they have on at that very moment...
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Re: How To Counter Soul Breaker (TF vs Daggers)
« Reply #18 on: August 01, 2009, 12:30:08 pm »
well, usually in a duel, or rather, in the duels im talking about, you wuddnt edp, i cud edp if it was random kos but im just talking a simple no potting no prebuff blah blah duel

no ones prebuffing at all in anyway is the case im talking about

im thinking i like the pneuma proc card idea...sounds legit
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Re: How To Counter Soul Breaker (TF vs Daggers)
« Reply #19 on: August 01, 2009, 02:03:55 pm »
Well then you're just falling victim to the article posted (And dang it's a good read lol) by Aryia. EDP is a SKILL of the SinX, that happens to boost all Katar based skills, unlike Soul Destroyer which is already beefed up, hence it's unaffected by EDP. So you're saying that by playing a Katar SinX all you're doing is limiting yourself on both weapons and skills to defeat said SinX opponent. Not to mention, with dagger's, SinX are able to toss Shield on and still SD, reducing 40% damage from you WHILE armor switching while still outputting damage to your dumbass because you can't do shit w/ a Katar on besides swap shield and stop attacking to minimize the damage of SD. So really you're losing because a choice of gearing, just like most TSS champs would beat Combo champs, or Int Prof would beat a Autocast Prof, or a bow Stalker vs. a dagger Stalker. It's simple matchups... Even I used daggers in those old best 2/3 duels back in the day on SinX.

If you don't think gears help either, I did some fun math on CK overups: Base damage difference between +4 and +8 CK's are:
348-1020 DPS. That's like... 1.5k-5k more damage every 5 seconds of DPS difference. Somewhere around that, which means you have to be THAT much more efficient at armor swapping.
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Re: How To Counter Soul Breaker (TF vs Daggers)
« Reply #20 on: August 01, 2009, 03:32:05 pm »
I'm kinda confused, in my HRS if you have 999 vit and def+vit cards all long range skills will kill you... But here in LRS high vit is good i guess...

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Re: How To Counter Soul Breaker (TF vs Daggers)
« Reply #21 on: August 01, 2009, 03:36:02 pm »
I'm kinda confused, in my HRS if you have 999 vit and def+vit cards all long range skills will kill you... But here in LRS high vit is good i guess...
they most likely have thanatos card or icepick or the custom headgears that +dmg per def/vit?

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Re: How To Counter Soul Breaker (TF vs Daggers)
« Reply #22 on: August 01, 2009, 05:24:11 pm »
No they dun use that.

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Re: How To Counter Soul Breaker (TF vs Daggers)
« Reply #23 on: August 02, 2009, 02:47:20 am »
Well then you're just falling victim to the article posted (And dang it's a good read lol) by Aryia. EDP is a SKILL of the SinX, that happens to boost all Katar based skills, unlike Soul Destroyer which is already beefed up, hence it's unaffected by EDP. So you're saying that by playing a Katar SinX all you're doing is limiting yourself on both weapons and skills to defeat said SinX opponent. Not to mention, with dagger's, SinX are able to toss Shield on and still SD, reducing 40% damage from you WHILE armor switching while still outputting damage to your dumbass because you can't do shit w/ a Katar on besides swap shield and stop attacking to minimize the damage of SD. So really you're losing because a choice of gearing, just like most TSS champs would beat Combo champs, or Int Prof would beat a Autocast Prof, or a bow Stalker vs. a dagger Stalker. It's simple matchups... Even I used daggers in those old best 2/3 duels back in the day on SinX.

If you don't think gears help either, I did some fun math on CK overups: Base damage difference between +4 and +8 CK's are:
348-1020 DPS. That's like... 1.5k-5k more damage every 5 seconds of DPS difference. Somewhere around that, which means you have to be THAT much more efficient at armor swapping.

so basically what ur saying is, by me choosing to play TF sinx, and choosing not to edp, im already putting myself at a huge disadvatange, and winning even 1/3 of my duels against dagger sinx is good in itself. If i really want to kick their ass's, i shud basicly just edp, and who gives a shit if they QQ after.


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Re: How To Counter Soul Breaker (TF vs Daggers)
« Reply #24 on: August 02, 2009, 02:53:45 am »
Pretty much. Think of how much different the duel would go if EDP was allowed for both sides.

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Re: How To Counter Soul Breaker (TF vs Daggers)
« Reply #25 on: August 02, 2009, 04:59:21 am »
Pretty much. Think of how much different the duel would go if EDP was allowed for both sides.

Amen. This pretty much sums up everything i needed to know. Thanx freestyle next time i can try that (edp both sides). hope this thread will open ppls certain ppls eyes (assuming they are reading this) as to y i might lose to a dagger sinx, and still not think of them as being anygood :)

note, im not calling all dagger sinx bad or not any good, just the small few who think they are badass enough to trash talk me after defeating me.


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Re: How To Counter Soul Breaker (TF vs Daggers)
« Reply #26 on: August 02, 2009, 05:39:32 am »
Swordbreaker !!!

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Re: How To Counter Soul Breaker (TF vs Daggers)
« Reply #27 on: August 02, 2009, 05:49:58 am »
Swordbreaker !!!
if he uses that he will have to counter all the QQing  later :P

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Re: How To Counter Soul Breaker (TF vs Daggers)
« Reply #28 on: August 02, 2009, 09:10:51 am »
Pretty much. Think of how much different the duel would go if EDP was allowed for both sides.

Amen. This pretty much sums up everything i needed to know. Thanx freestyle next time i can try that (edp both sides). hope this thread will open ppls certain ppls eyes (assuming they are reading this) as to y i might lose to a dagger sinx, and still not think of them as being anygood :)

note, im not calling all dagger sinx bad or not any good, just the small few who think they are badass enough to trash talk me after defeating me.
well when ur identity is concealed...ev1 is tempted to trash talk after a win xD
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Re: How To Counter Soul Breaker (TF vs Daggers)
« Reply #29 on: August 02, 2009, 11:18:39 am »
Swordbreaker !!!
if he uses that he will have to counter all the QQing  later :P

I have a Golem Jur to counter than, theyd die in edp while dealing their weakass swordbreaker dmg /ho


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