Item Shop Discount Dies When?

[Haruwa]

The xmas boxes play no part in the current market situation.

Yeah right so when people were buying 200 ads at a time trying to get Kahos, Celebs,Sleipnir, and Garm Baby Eggs to sell them for 50m it had nothing to do with the christmas boxes. No one will agree with you on that point ever.

once again agreed with him...MOST people buy 200 ads at a time is trying to make a profit from brys or replacing their fuckin' meg thanks to GM.
I think your case only happens months ago when x-mas box released

Mostly not them at present I'll give you that but they are on the list of things that are not helping. Right now it' would be the discount that's the main reason though the boxes were the original reason.
I take it no one likes that ashura nerf?  =p

[jadestar]

One word:  Greedy!
even before the discount, ppl are overpricing some gears/cards.
a dopple card used to be 15M, and now 23M+.
that is called greedy!
People always want more for less, and never satisfied.

[redhairweasel]

The xmas boxes play no part in the current market situation.

Yeah right so when people were buying 200 ads at a time trying to get Kahos, Celebs,Sleipnir, and Garm Baby Eggs to sell them for 50m it had nothing to do with the christmas boxes. No one will agree with you on that point ever.

once again agreed with him...MOST people buy 200 ads at a time is trying to make a profit from brys or replacing their fuckin' meg thanks to GM.
I think your case only happens months ago when x-mas box released

Mostly not them at present I'll give you that but they are on the list of things that are not helping. Right now it' would be the discount that's the main reason though the boxes were the original reason.
I take it no one likes that ashura nerf?  =p

Who knows why GM give discount and who knows why meg is nerf'd...
MAYBE GM wanted to give a permanent new discount by giving discount probably because they were heavily critisied by other server or they knew back then by nerfing meg will make more people to donate to replace their meg like today.
You know what...I bet even if x-mas box are taken out from the item shop...people are still buying ads at bundle just for briss sake

One word:  Greedy!
even before the discount, ppl are overpricing some gears/cards.
a dopple card used to be 15M, and now 23M+.
that is called greedy!
People always want more for less, and never satisfied.

nah...that don't explain much
i'd say it's due to people leaving the server and less new people/donator coming in
so less gear are vending atm making the price rise unlike before...which you have to compete with mooore people to sell your stuff

[jadestar]

Only the GMs know the reasons...
since they are the ones who made the discounts!
Perhaps a GM can explain it to us here!
until then, we have no choice but keep doing what we do....

[Silver]

Considering Lucifels request, I shall take this to ranters.

The discount is actually a good thing. I say we keep out mouths shut, and leave it be.

[Roon]

in regards to the xmas boxes, they're about the same thing as OPBs or OBBs, which have always been obtainable via the item shop. xmas boxes are good for the server, because people have to donate for them, and they have a chance of getting something good; as they do with an OCA or whatever. They server a purpose beyond being "christmas" only, so yes, I'd still like to see them in July.

[Yoshi]

Considering Lucifels request, I shall take this to ranters.

The discount is actually a good thing. I say we keep out mouths shut, and leave it be.

I agree with silver though that this wont change a thing people will still keep the price of what they sell now the same the only way to effect
the economy right now is to weed out every player over charging things DO NOT buy things from the over priced items and let things freeze out watch
venders get impatient and lower the price of the items they sell also First to start out with B>ADS S>ADS people are abusing this I know a few people i wont
point out who are buying ads for 1mil and selling it at 1.3mil making a huge profit on this to be honest it would be nice if you could only buy ads from a player another
way where the ad price can be controlled but wait no one will suggest that or agree with that etc Over 1mil on ads is just one way to word Outrageously Out of control.

On a side note haruwa if you guys read this thread im about to link a few gms gave there input about the ads and prices of items to this player
http://www.anthemro.com/forums/index.php/topic,64716.0.html

that link will answer all your questions 

[SwiftStrike]

well, if the discount is "permanent", they should stop calling it a christmas discount lol.

[Waylander]

I want kaho to be 75mil again

[jadestar]

the high prices will hurt new players the most!
once they get frustrated, they will stop playing here....
a new player can never afford a kaho that costs 85M....it will take eons of niffing to earn that much!!
that is..if he/she has dbss mace and other gears!!
It took me a year to get my first kaho horns!  and I got it for 65M

[Haruwa]

Bah that didn't to much to answer me other than make me think I'm more right than ever that it needs to go for the economys sake but needs to stay for the purpose of providing the money that helps keep our site going. Guess I'd still rather play Anthem so I'll give up and let the sheep run their course.if they run the prices of everything into the ground I just will never buy anything again and it won't affect me so much other than making me spend even more time farming.

[Yoshi]

Prices of items in game, and the price of ads, are all player regulated. Prices of ads rise and fall due to whatever the other players are willing to actually pay for them. There is no "real" value of an ad. Ads have been as cheap as 300k before, and they have been as high as they are now, and maybe even higher, and anything and everything in between.

Ad value here is like stocks in real life; they go up and down based on innumerable factors, and while you can make guesses/predictions about how certain changes will affect their value, there are too many factors involved to ever really know for sure what will happen.

There are no simple solutions in regards to getting the economy to a point where most everyone can be happy with it. It's simply far too complex of a beast.

6 pages of this one player trying to get the wrong idea out Like said before Ad prices/Discount item shop/Gift boxes Items in game Are all controlled by the players
not the GM's.This was initially to help the players but the "Players" regulated the prices to fix and control no discounts to anyone hence making the prices go up

People only charge what others are willing to pay. Holding onto your own merchandise will actually contribute to prices staying high since you are effectively contributing to a lower supply of the product. Also, for things to drop, somebody has to be the first person to start lowering prices.

Prices either drop due to customers boycotting higher prices until sellers are forced to lower, or they drop due to one or more sellers coming along and aggressively and actively undercutting the competition.

As far as GM's providing price information... that's just a bad idea. That kind of thing will kill a market. The market works because players are in control of it. They determine the prices they are willing to buy/sell things at. That's the way it should be.

Again said  but whats not understood is that theres pirates out there taking those items and only selling it higher making the other players think thats the price for that item and raise the price of there item up as well only a competition of a small amount of players in a server going higher and higher.

[Haruwa]

I'll add the reply here I was going to before I checked that threads date...

Undercutting the opposition isn't even an option unless you never vend but actively sell. Tried that option for a bit and all that happens is the opposition buys your cheaper items before anyone else and marks them up just the same. Selling for less helps nothing other than giving resellers more profit and thus more money for a repeat performance...

I was selling mvp card on alts 2m below everyone elses price even did so with some sqi items and you know what happened the shop would be up for an hour tops and everything would be marked up to be resold heck mymerch bought the marked down DL sleipnir I had up and put it in his shop 5 seconds later and I don't remember who else I gave in to and sold stuff to for less. All in all it's a meaningless effort I can't put stock in anymore if all it does is pool all items with the people who overcharge the most. The final straw that made me stop was when I'd give people a 5m discount because it was "all the money they had and they really wanted and need one and could not afford anymore" so I caved sold it then logged out and came back on an alt since I usually sell if I'm not leveling and on my way to prison guess what I saw. That item marked up to market price and it sold again right in from of me and put 8m profit in their pocket. You know the saddest part is I see this more often for richer players and vets abusing alts than anyone else. I sell to person A and all of a sudden a know overpricer appears with my item in their shop most recent example being my red glasses of gemstone a certain someone marked up 6m....

I was told I bitch to much (and aparenlty I still do even though stopped saying anything at all  ) so I stopped complaining but since I can't even vent I gave up and trying to be the one who undercuts and now I'm being treated like some money grubbing bish because of that. There is no way to win so whats the point in being better than the situation individually when it's a damned if you do damned if you don't scenario. At the very least I'd rather be insulted just the same and keep my profit for me than let someone else talk bad about me AND profit off my kindness only to have said people who do that turn a profit and have even more bank behind them so they can do it on a wider scale. We really need a better money since that doesn't target the average player too as the people who should be using them aren't. Yeah I have a lot of stuff pack rated I'll admit that to be fair but I don't resell what I buy under normal circumstances I believe in not buying what you have no intention to keep if you can help it. There is nothing wrong with buying something cheap and then finding something better than and selling the doubled up stock but there is something wrong with stocking up on things just for the sake of selling them...

A nice saying that starts with fool me once comes to mind...
Bah I dun care anymore it's obviously purely a wasted effort I'm done Haru out enjoy your day all.

[Yoshi]

I'll add the reply here I was going to before I checked that threads date...

Undercutting the opposition isn't even an option unless you never vend but actively sell. Tried that option for a bit and all that happens is the opposition buys your cheaper items before anyone else and marks them up just the same. Selling for less helps nothing other than giving resellers more profit and thus more money for a repeat performance...

I was selling mvp card on alts 2m below everyone elses price even did so with some sqi items and you know what happened the shop would be up for an hour tops and everything would be marked up to be resold heck mymerch bought the marked down DL sleipnir I had up and put it in his shop 5 seconds later and I don't remember who else I gave in to and sold stuff to for less. All in all it's a meaningless effort I can't put stock in anymore if all it does is pool all items with the people who overcharge the most. The final straw that made me stop was when I'd give people a 5m discount because it was "all the money they had and they really wanted and need one and could not afford anymore" so I caved sold it then logged out and came back on an alt since I usually sell if I'm not leveling and on my way to prison guess what I saw. That item marked up to market price and it sold again right in from of me and put 8m profit in their pocket. You know the saddest part is I see this more often for richer players and vets abusing alts than anyone else. I sell to person A and all of a sudden a know overpricer appears with my item in their shop most recent example being my red glasses of gemstone a certain someone marked up 6m....

I was told I bitch to much (and aparenlty I still do even though stopped saying anything at all  ) so I stopped complaining but since I can't even vent I gave up and trying to be the one who undercuts and now I'm being treated like some money grubbing bish because of that. There is no way to win so whats the point in being better than the situation individually when it's a damned if you do damned if you don't scenario. At the very least I'd rather be insulted just the same and keep my profit for me than let someone else talk bad about me AND profit off my kindness only to have said people who do that turn a profit and have even more bank behind them so they can do it on a wider scale. We really need a better money since that doesn't target the average player too as the people who should be using them aren't. Yeah I have a lot of stuff pack rated I'll admit that to be fair but I don't resell what I buy under normal circumstances I believe in not buying what you have no intention to keep if you can help it. There is nothing wrong with buying something cheap and then finding something better than and selling the doubled up stock but there is something wrong with stocking up on things just for the sake of selling them...

A nice saying that starts with fool me once comes to mind...
Bah I dun care anymore it's obviously purely a wasted effort I'm done Haru out enjoy your day all.

Your intentions are all good but its not you who is at fault is the assholes who buy and resell to make money.Those players probably dont remember the last time they farmed and item or card 

i do agree that item shop discount and Gift box should be removed and they should put something new but things will never regulate when theres players buying and reselling ads weed out that problem first then maybe you can get rid of these two add ons

[DJ Soul]

They have the discount up because the server isn't getting enough donations to run the server. I don't think they'll take it down anytime soon since our population is slowly dropping everyday. Less people playing = less people donating.