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Doppleganger

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slicerx

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Doppleganger
« on: November 09, 2008, 10:09:56 am »
i have a dopple. cost me alot... i have 154 aspd with a main gauche equipped...  and only 169 aspd with main gauche with dopple only on. thats 10% increase.
isnt it 33%? and why wont it do the 33%?
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Re: Doppleganger
« Reply #1 on: November 09, 2008, 10:15:21 am »
did u use speed pot yet?
and what's the left hand weapon?
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Re: Doppleganger
« Reply #2 on: November 09, 2008, 10:19:15 am »
You need agi too

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Re: Doppleganger
« Reply #3 on: November 09, 2008, 10:32:12 am »
He's asking why the Dopple Card is only giving him 10% ASPD, not 33% like the card says.
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Re: Doppleganger
« Reply #4 on: November 09, 2008, 10:43:12 am »
Because it is counted like

ASpd = 200 - Delay

Delay = SpeedMods * (WeaponDelay - ([WeaponDelay*Agi/25] + [WeaponDelay*Dex/100])/10)

SpeedMods = (100-ImprovementPercentages)/100.

So the Doppel card affects the speedmod by 33%. Speedmod becomes 0.67

Your original delay = 200 - 154 = 46.

With a Doppel your new delay = 0.67 x original delay = 30.82.

Now your new aspd = 200 - 30.82 = 169.18, rounded to 169.
       
       

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Re: Doppleganger
« Reply #5 on: November 09, 2008, 02:26:54 pm »
*just stares at the equations*

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Re: Doppleganger
« Reply #6 on: November 09, 2008, 04:13:26 pm »
*just stares at the equations*

errm I just know that with 2 dops and around 20 agi I get max aspd (W/o Pots) :S
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Re: Doppleganger
« Reply #7 on: November 10, 2008, 07:09:22 am »
Doesnt the weight of the weap affect too? Thats why when u wear a weap your aspd goes down? ^^'

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Re: Doppleganger
« Reply #8 on: November 10, 2008, 07:21:06 am »
Doesnt the weight of the weap affect too? Thats why when u wear a weap your aspd goes down? ^^'

The weapon type are WeaponDelay. But since the OP was comparing a cardless MG with a Doppel MG, so it is the same weapon delay =p
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Re: Doppleganger
« Reply #9 on: November 10, 2008, 08:28:18 am »
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Re: Doppleganger
« Reply #10 on: November 10, 2008, 08:53:40 am »
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good work harusama, i often wondered about those equations

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Re: Doppleganger
« Reply #11 on: November 10, 2008, 11:22:57 am »
Because it is counted like

ASpd = 200 - Delay

Delay = SpeedMods * (WeaponDelay - ([WeaponDelay*Agi/25] + [WeaponDelay*Dex/100])/10)

SpeedMods = (100-ImprovementPercentages)/100.

So the Doppel card affects the speedmod by 33%. Speedmod becomes 0.67

Your original delay = 200 - 154 = 46.

With a Doppel your new delay = 0.67 x original delay = 30.82.

Now your new aspd = 200 - 30.82 = 169.18, rounded to 169.
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Re: Doppleganger
« Reply #12 on: November 11, 2008, 06:04:27 am »
thanks for clearing that up for me  ;D

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Re: Doppleganger
« Reply #13 on: November 11, 2008, 10:37:15 am »
I speak for everyone who posted here and say "Anytime >:3!"