Other SQI haven't Nerfed yet.

[Messiahic Murder]

Thanks for clearing that up with "80%" person 

[lugsy]

Yes Sages/profs have the hardest time Stripping. Try it without WOF,SW and fiber lock pl0x.
Level 2 is enough for you, jumping to 5 wont increase it that much,. if you were to get the strip with relative ease at level 5, you'll still get it with relative ease at level 2.

[Aozora]

Yes Sages/profs have the hardest time Stripping. Try it without WOF,SW and fiber lock pl0x.
Level 2 is enough for you, jumping to 5 wont increase it that much,. if you were to get the strip with relative ease at level 5, you'll still get it with relative ease at level 2.

Can I get this in English please o.o;

Yes it's tru that if you have time to first Web, then WoF and SW while keeping the Web up and positioning the WoF so that it won't effect the enemy. It'll make stripping easier, basically we'll only stay alive longer. But try doing this in the middle of WoE with people running all around. You don't have enough time to use this combo efficently. If you mess up the WoF the enemy will jsut stay there and get a nice 75% reduction from all your pretty bolts. And you gotta remember, when you web the enemy that doesn't mean that he can't use skills or attack. Keeping Web, SW, fog and sight up while still spamming strip against a SinX with 190 ASPD and a GTB is pretty damn difficult.

If you og there and manage to pull this combo off in WoE sure good for you, it still won't increase the strip chance, it'll jsut take longer for the enemy to rape you.

[lugsy]

Yes it's tru that if you have time to first Web, then WoF and SW while keeping the Web up and positioning the WoF so that it won't effect the enemy. It'll make stripping easier, basically we'll only stay alive longer. But try doing this in the middle of WoE with people running all around. You don't have enough time to use this combo efficently. If you mess up the WoF the enemy will jsut stay there and get a nice 75% reduction from all your pretty bolts. And you gotta remember, when you web the enemy that doesn't mean that he can't use skills or attack. Keeping Web, SW, fog and sight up while still spamming strip against a SinX with 190 ASPD and a GTB is pretty damn difficult.

If you og there and manage to pull this combo off in WoE sure good for you, it still won't increase the strip chance, it'll jsut take longer for the enemy to rape you.

If you're trying to strip in woe; do your guild/the server a favour and become an hero. Profs Have /alot/ better stuff to do than stripping. Leave that to stalkers if anything.
And just think you're bitching about fiber lock wof and sw. Try it as a stalker, closest thing we have is close confine. Which we have to be within 2 cells to use it, and unless we are within one we can't strip from it anyways.

[Aozora]

I'm very well aware of Profs role in WoE thankyouverymuch. The point as that stripping is a last resort, there are times when you have to do it. And no I'm not bitching about them, I'm pointing out that the combo requires quite a bit of precision and skill to use properly and efficently. IF you mess up the WoF it'll benefit your opponen more then you, if you can keep SW up you die, if you can't keep sight up he'll hide and you can't do anything.

As for stalkers, they have Chase walk. so you're pretty much able to walk through sights without being spotted easily. And what's the point of telling about close confine? I gotta set up the WoF right next to the enemy. If I'm not in it I'll get some hefty ranged damage and if I am in WoF that means that I'm at least 3 squares away from my enemy. And WoF doesn't block ranged attacks, it nerfs the damage and makes them miss occasionally, so there's a good chance that if your opponent spams ranged attacks you'll die anyways.

While Chase walk allows you get close to your enemy and he can't sight/ruwach you. Only thing is area damage. So Chase walk close, then close confine, then starp spamming strip. A lot easier then first webbing, then setting up a WoF correctly, another WeB so that your opponent can't get away, then SW in the WoF and move to that square and start spamming Strip while keeping all those three skills up.

[lugsy]

stuff

You can Spider web and Wof from a distance. Stalkers have no skills to even have a chance at a "safe" strip chance. you're saying "oh no, after being able to hide in skills fully blocking normal skills, and massively reducing ranged, my skill level 2 is the fail (btw you only need it for pvp; since sqi's are for woe, it shouldn't even be there ). Yet when a stalker goes up there, they need to be out in the open to strip .

[Aozora]

I know I can spider web and WoF from distance o_O I've played a Scholar since I started playing RO over a year afo. The point is, if you WoF from distance you'll have to WoF right next to the target. Meaning you're wide open for ranged attacks until you get into your WoF. One option would be to first Web and then Wof myself, and slowly move towards the target with WoF's up. But considering that one WoF lasts for 20 seconds that'd be incredibly slow.

And yes you do have safe strip chance since you can't be detected besides AoE skills that deal melee damage. You chase walk next to the one you're stripping, you pop out of chasewalk, you use full strip few times then you go back hiding. Couple with Sleips/Agi up/Crest of horse and Stalker soul Link and you'll be moving so fast that the enemy can't even catch you.

And no it's not only used in PvP, I've tried to strip and stripped people more then once during WoE. Usually when there is no Stalker around to strip. Getting rid of the shield is incredibly helpful. I've done it with and without all these crazy combos, and msot of the time I just fail miserably since they are either A) FCP'd or B) They just pwn me before I've managed to spam strip enough to get rid of the shield.

The point of the strip shield is to give Scholars a chance to go against GTB'd people. As of now we have that option, but it's a damn long shot to land a succesful strip before you die.

[DreamerP]

how did this turn into a Prof/Tome discussion  

[Aozora]

how did this turn into a Prof/Tome discussion  

fine I'll stop and let others rant for a change ._.

[Lokisama]

actually this topic are for all SQIs.. so feel free to discuss everything here =)

[Ressy]

Fuck Tome lvl 5 strip, you can strip in general which rapes. Magi is like a weak versn of Tome. Only actual thing agi got different was Matk, and I think thats close to 1 another still.

[A.D.DFreak]

truthfully the SQI that hasn't been nerf is becuz they are properly even out....they nerf like suiken becuz it over powered champions....if you keep asking to nerf every SQI.....they will eventually be nerfed down into a pathetic weapon



Though i don't like tome......dam strip

[ozg82889]

if i could have it my way i would put WB on the tome to screw with all the WB whores who wasted a slot putting a drake in their tome while i have my DDS tome and laugh at them.
but in reality i would rather get MC and +15% matk instead of strip as our MC can be 5 different elements and we can use converters to change it when we want.

[Ressy]

if i could have it my way i would put WB on the tome to screw with all the WB whores who wasted a slot putting a drake in their tome while i have my DDS tome and laugh at them.
but in reality i would rather get MC and +15% matk instead of strip as our MC can be 5 different elements and we can use converters to change it when we want.

lmao yes another SQI taking MC from us -.-

[ozg82889]

if i could have it my way i would put WB on the tome to screw with all the WB whores who wasted a slot putting a drake in their tome while i have my DDS tome and laugh at them.
but in reality i would rather get MC and +15% matk instead of strip as our MC can be 5 different elements and we can use converters to change it when we want.

lmao yes another SQI taking MC from us -.-

i never though it was a good choice to give it to HP all you need is holy armor and a marse hood and they wont do much dmg put on a gtb and they wont hurt you much or at all. while if a scholar uses fire property and does low dmg he can switch to wind property or another to do more.