PVP CHANGE

[sarita]

I need to know will pvp remain the way it is forever or a change may be implemented on it? If there's change what type of change will it be and Very eager to know when it gonna take place?

[L'Fluffy]

oh boy... not again..

I think Fidelis replied to this question numerous times already...

edit:
found it

The point is: for me, PvP looks not really entertaining right now. It's just a bunch of elitists (i.e. you people) with your potions who want to kill other players no matter what. Of course PvP is about killing and stuff, but it's no fun if the only way to compete is to have a Kafra clip and lots of cakes or white potions stacked in your storage to use, not even talking about the SQIs.
Also, PvP is not the most important thing about a Ragnarok server. It's part of the whole deal, so I also want to make it available to all players, because right now it's just a playing ground for you guys. Furthermore, I don't endorse the way some people handle PvP at all: creating novices to talk shit, throwing around personal insults and instigating drama, carrying it out on the forums. Sorry, but this all just shows that you guys are not mature enough for something as simple as that.

@sarita: Don't you see that we're going in circles? You're always asking and complaining about the same things, and I'm always giving you the same response? What do you want to hear from me? I understand very well that you don't like it the way it is right now, I understand very well that you just want to have your potting enabled again so you can fight against the mean other potters and gangers, I understand very well that you hate to adapt to change when it means that you become "weaker", I understand very well that you feel that champ is now useless. I understand very well that you're trying to convince me that PvP is the most important thing as it heavily affects the economy.

[Najara]

The only thing that I personally didn't like about PVP is the map, I've honestly no idea who their right mind supported to switch public for airship, but it were obviously players that don't even PVP. From what I remember, everyone inside the map was always complaining about having difficulties with aiming because tables, chairs and candles were being in the way. They were right.

You're probably referring to the pot delay, though. That's just something you just need to get used to. You will some day, young grasshopper.

[thephi]

The only thing that I personally didn't like about PVP is the map, I've honestly no idea who their right mind supported to switch public for airship, but it were obviously players that don't even PVP. From what I remember, everyone inside the map was always complaining about having difficulties with aiming because tables, chairs and candles were being in the way. They were right.

You're probably referring to the pot delay, though. That's just something you just need to get used to. You will some day, young grasshopper.

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They need to fix pvp. They really need to add no delay on sp it really defeats the purpose of skills.

[Blu Ray]

The only thing that I personally didn't like about PVP is the map, I've honestly no idea who their right mind supported to switch public for airship, but it were obviously players that don't even PVP. From what I remember, everyone inside the map was always complaining about having difficulties with aiming because tables, chairs and candles were being in the way. They were right.

You're probably referring to the pot delay, though. That's just something you just need to get used to. You will some day, young grasshopper.

This ^ and
They need to fix pvp. They really need to add no delay on sp it really defeats the purpose of skills.

SP is supposed to be a way to limit how you use skills to keep things balanced. Unlimited SP by item spamming with no delay is pretty much the same as not having SP at all, thus It defeats the purpose of having SP. Having delay on SP items makes SP work the way It's supposed to work, so how exacly does It defeats the purpose of skills?

You cry too much buddy, It's about time you either get used to the new PvP or just join another server.

[Salamander]

U should also apologize for effing up pvp..

Or how about you tell Fidelis to apologize, because he took the original idea and screwed it up (no offense).

This pretty much and the PvP discussion our hands where tied.   

[thephi]

The only thing that I personally didn't like about PVP is the map, I've honestly no idea who their right mind supported to switch public for airship, but it were obviously players that don't even PVP. From what I remember, everyone inside the map was always complaining about having difficulties with aiming because tables, chairs and candles were being in the way. They were right.

You're probably referring to the pot delay, though. That's just something you just need to get used to. You will some day, young grasshopper.

This ^ and
They need to fix pvp. They really need to add no delay on sp it really defeats the purpose of skills.

SP is supposed to be a way to limit how you use skills to keep things balanced. Unlimited SP by item spamming with no delay is pretty much the same as not having SP at all, thus It defeats the purpose of having SP. Having delay on SP items makes SP work the way It's supposed to work, so how exacly does It defeats the purpose of skills?

You cry too much buddy, It's about time you either get used to the new PvP or just join another server.

ya i cry so much? Im trying to help this server and comments like yours only hurt the server so why dont you find a different server yourself?
Your SP assumption is completely wrong how the hell does that make pvp balance? You my friend are retarded. Please dont post again. Lmao
You don't even pvp last time i check. Which supports Najara comment above how people who dont pvp make retarded suggestions.

[lesner_xx]

I think this is the right time to change pvp especially the SP delay and map. Noone goes there anymore so it definately need a change if it's not been changed it will be like dead place as i mostly see it. Also i think HP delay is good it doesn't need to be changed but SP delay needs to be changed as most of the player complain same and even map which makes difficult to play with. If no change has been implemented it will be like a slap towards all the players who were after it all the time without proper decision or action.

[SukiChii]

I think we have more important issues that need to be fix before PvP.

[thephi]

I think this is the right time to change pvp especially the SP delay and map. Noone goes there anymore so it definately need a change if it's not been changed it will be like dead place as i mostly see it. Also i think HP delay is good it doesn't need to be changed but SP delay needs to be changed as most of the player complain same and even map which makes difficult to play with. If no change has been implemented it will be like a slap towards all the players who were after it all the time without proper decision or action.

Agree they tried to change and fix pvp but they failed. Its time to change pvp back.
Romney2012

[Noobie-Won]

The only thing that I personally didn't like about PVP is the map, I've honestly no idea who their right mind supported to switch public for airship, but it were obviously players that don't even PVP. From what I remember, everyone inside the map was always complaining about having difficulties with aiming because tables, chairs and candles were being in the way. They were right.

You're probably referring to the pot delay, though. That's just something you just need to get used to. You will some day, young grasshopper.

This ^ and
They need to fix pvp. They really need to add no delay on sp it really defeats the purpose of skills.

SP is supposed to be a way to limit how you use skills to keep things balanced. Unlimited SP by item spamming with no delay is pretty much the same as not having SP at all, thus It defeats the purpose of having SP. Having delay on SP items makes SP work the way It's supposed to work, so how exacly does It defeats the purpose of skills?

You cry too much buddy, It's about time you either get used to the new PvP or just join another server.

ya i cry so much? Im trying to help this server and comments like yours only hurt the server so why dont you find a different server yourself?
Your SP assumption is completely wrong how the hell does that make pvp balance? You my friend are retarded. Please dont post again. Lmao
You don't even pvp last time i check. Which supports Najara comment above how people who dont pvp make retarded suggestions.

The usage of sp is how the original use of skills were limited. We are a low rate server with the ability to get gj by the shit-tons. Which then makes champs an over abused class because the "one hit" asura is now being spammed. It dumps all your sp as a limiter of how often it can be used, instead of using 5 sp so it can be used numerous times back to back. I don't see why in their right minds they'd fix that. I think it's a perfectly good idea and should remain.

It's retarded to believe it shouldn't be in place. Open your eyes to other classes and rely on other means then just skill spamming. Infact learn some skill, though I know that's asking a lot.

[Dangletsbang]

Airship has so much history though. <3

Spoiler for Hidden:

[:Momoko:]

i would also like public or atleast a smaller map lol, Airship highly supports Prebuffers anyways, not like anyone checks the whole map for clocked buffers, as for the SP delay im kinda in the middle of bringing it back to normal and keeping it the same, if we bring it back to normal it only supports the champ class and classes that spam skills left and right, although pvp had more life wen people decided the Top Dog was the one that can spam cakes the fastest either way

I think we have more important issues that need to be fix before PvP.

i agree with this 100%

Also how about that xx Seconds cooldown for Asura /inb4angrychampmob

[Star Star]

The cooldown idea is fine, just that people from the respective class who have utmost disadvantage are over-exaggerating it.
The cooldown timing is just too harsh in my opinion.
The real problem is that not enough testing has been done, namely the different cooldown timing.

Anyway,

I think we have more important issues that need to be fix before PvP.

So let's give them some time.

[Kain]

Airship has so much history though. <3

Spoiler for Hidden:

I don't know why people liked airship so much back then, but I do know why they hate it now. There's no public pvp to return to so they're stuck in an obstacle filled room forever.
Anyway I hate the cooldown idea. I play a ninja so it takes some time to get their health down, but they just slowly heal it up. Kind of pointless for me either way honestly.

I think we have more important issues that need to be fix before PvP.