Best Card(s) for Sýr's Cloak of Feathers? (Non-PvP)

[Skeleton Liar]

[EDIT:] I have (finally) decided to go for a Deviling. It's the obvious joice for most, but to anyone who is planning on making the Sýr's Cloak and isn't sure, I guess read through this topic and see if it answers any questions.

I'm slowly, but surely, trying to make my first SQI, the Sýr's Cloak of Feathers. But I'm not sure what card to put on it.

I am NOT into PvP of any sort, so I wouldn't want a card that's primarily useful for that. (Besides, Soul Linkers aren't even good at PvP anyway, right?)

I like the Kavach Icarus Card and I guess the Raydric card, though I've never had one. And I'm not sure about the Deviling's receive-50%-more-damage-from-other-property-attacks business; sounds risky in my opinion, which is why I've never tried to get one before (plus it's expensive). Which would be the best for PvM, and could anyone explain why? Are there any other options?

(I'm leaning towards Icarus just because I like it so much and I'm not going to attempt to upgrade past +4.)

[Kyubey]

If it's not for PvP then you would obviously want the Deviling for the 50% neutral damage reduction.

the other 50% damage from all other elements can be healed by Kaahi/pots once they normally attack you or dodged by Kaupe.

If you don't want to be bothered by the 50% at all then you can just use a Raydric.

And why kavac? o_O Flee SL?

[Edven3]

 most likely  demon and undead races will be ur target as they have better rare drops then any others

 go with raydric  since spell caster always keeps it distants other then ranged mobs

[Skeleton Liar]

If it's not for PvP then you would obviously want the Deviling for the 50% neutral damage reduction.

the other 50% damage from all other elements can be healed by Kaahi/pots once they normally attack you or dodged by Kaupe.

If you don't want to be bothered by the 50% at all then you can just use a Raydric.

And why kavac? o_O Flee SL?

Oh, right. I somehow completely forgot how awesome Kaahi is. Ha ha. But I'm still not thrilled about the additional 50%.
And I mostly only have physical attackers, so Icarus works well for them and I like it because of that. I've pretty much gotten my SL to be like a Thief class, and I love it. However, I also like SL's magic attack, and I'd probably switch back and forth between physical and magical attacking (depending on how lazy I am).

most likely  demon and undead races will be ur target as they have better rare drops then any others

 go with raydric  since spell caster always keeps it distants other then ranged mobs

Well, since both of you say Raydric's fine, I'm leaning towards that now. Thanks! =) Anyone else is welcome to chime in too.

[Kyubey]

Some of the 50% damage received from other Elements can also be reduced by Syr's +15% damage reduction from Earth Wind and Poison; plus other reduction gears
like elemental armor. I really recommend you get a deviling if its only PvM you're leaning towards.

OR

You can use the Raydric incase you get bored of PvM which is likely

[Skeleton Liar]

Some of the 50% damage received from other Elements can also be reduced by Syr's +15% damage reduction from Earth Wind and Poison; plus other reduction gears
like elemental armor. I really recommend you get a deviling if its only PvM you're leaning towards.

OR

You can use the Raydric incase you get bored of PvM which is likely

I'm more of a casual RO gamer, so the whole switching elemental armor thing is a little over my head; I don't feel like bothering with it. I really just want something that's overall good; doesn't have to be amazing. Also, I've been on this server for 5 years (though I'm still noobish and borderline broke lol), and I've not once gotten tired of PvM. (I might want to take a break from it, yeah, but I've never been bored from it.)

[Skeleton Liar]

lol Looks like you also had this question earlier this year, Kyubey. Just found your topic while trying to find a consistant price for the Blue and Red Feathers. (They're all over the place.)

[aone]

definitely deviling. and whether either or, you'll still need specific armors for specific places.

most times, when monsters hit you, it will be neutral. not to mention you have linker buffs.

[Skeleton Liar]

Alright, new question. For a casual player like myself, would a Raydric really be that bad of a choice compared to a Deviling? I mean, to me, it sounds like Deviling is what most would want, but you need elemental armors to counter the additional 50% damage, right? It also sounds like all this elemental armor business is for really difficult places (like Thor's, where you need fire armor). Um... Again, I'm more of a casual player. That sounds like a lot of work and a lot of zeny/Ads (which I won't have after eventually making this SQI). I know I asked for the best card, but I'm thinking that since Deviling is very expensive and sounds like a lot of extra work, would it be an okay choice to go for a Raydric instead?

[Johnsu]

Yeah, with proper elemental switching, you'll.want dev.

[Skeleton Liar]

Yeah, with proper elemental switching, you'll.want dev.

But I don't want to deal with elemental armor switching. It's not a priority to me.

[Old Man]

It's ultimately up to you, and if the negative effect from dev really puts you off that much then go for raydric.

BUT...

You've already said yourself you mainly deal with physical attackers, so dev would definitely be best for that.

You want to lower incoming physical hits as much as you can so that your kaahi will outheal it.  If you can do that then the extra damage from elemental attacks often won't make a huge difference anyway.  Not to mention, as others have said, the cloak reduces some of those elemental attacks as well which lessens dev's negative effect.

About the expense bit...  you're dealing with your first (maybe only?) SQI here.  You want it to be as good as it can get for the way you play.  Don't cut corners here, even if it will take a little longer to save up

[aone]

its not switching. it's as you said. for thor, you need fire armor. for prison, bathory/ed/sleep/frozen.

you need to wear proper armor, whether you have immune or deviling.

and the 50% added damage is usually negligible with proper armor.

you're saying you're gonna spend 100m+ on a soul bound you-can-only-make-one item and not put the best card in it?

anyway, up to you \o.o/

[Kyubey]

lol Looks like you also had this question earlier this year, Kyubey. Just found your topic while trying to find a consistant price for the Blue and Red Feathers. (They're all over the place.)

I picked Noxious for WoE/PvP if you were curious, but it works great for me in PvM since most of the damage can be healed via kaahi 

[Skeleton Liar]

It's ultimately up to you, and if the negative effect from dev really puts you off that much then go for raydric.

BUT...

You've already said yourself you mainly deal with physical attackers, so dev would definitely be best for that.

You want to lower incoming physical hits as much as you can so that your kaahi will outheal it.  If you can do that then the extra damage from elemental attacks often won't make a huge difference anyway.  Not to mention, as others have said, the cloak reduces some of those elemental attacks as well which lessens dev's negative effect.

About the expense bit...  you're dealing with your first (maybe only?) SQI here.  You want it to be as good as it can get for the way you play.  Don't cut corners here, even if it will take a little longer to save up

Oh, oops. I guess I didn't make it 100% clear. I'm pretty sure that whenever I get this, I'm going to go for Esma. But if I'm feeling lazy, I'd switch back to physical attacking.
Also, my Soul Linker is not my main character. I just liked that it could be both a physical and magical attacker (and I'm not even a fan of magical attackers, but I like Esma), and on top of that, the SQI sounds awesome. So I decided I'd go for it, but I'd take my time.
And you are correct in assuming that this is probably going to be the only SQI I try to make. Ha ha. (Everything else seems daunting. At least for me.)

So... let me get this straight. Although I'm sure Deviling's the best choice in both cases, you're saying that if I was just a physical attacker, Deviling would be much better because I'd be hit more often than if I was using Esma (hopefully far away, not getting hit). But if I'm mainly an Esma attacker, Raydric would be okay since I (probably) wouldn't be hit by physical attacks. Is that a safe assumption?

I picked Noxious for WoE/PvP if you were curious, but it works great for me in PvM since most of the damage can be healed via kaahi 

Uh oh. Now that I'm understanding the whole magic vs. physical aspect, I'm unsure again. lol Noxious DOES sound nice now... So typically, you don't get hit by monsters that use close ranged attacks because you're far away, and for the monsters that CAN attack you with long ranged attacks, Noxious helps out with that. Does long range resistance include all properties, whether physical or magic?

its not switching. it's as you said. for thor, you need fire armor. for prison, bathory/ed/sleep/frozen.

you need to wear proper armor, whether you have immune or deviling.

and the 50% added damage is usually negligible with proper armor.

you're saying you're gonna spend 100m+ on a soul bound you-can-only-make-one item and not put the best card in it?

anyway, up to you \o.o/

I was using Thor's as an example. I really don't go there. Scares the hell out of me. For what I do on RO, I've never really felt like I needed elemental armor (including going to Prison). For hopefully the last time, I'm just a casual player. I'm well aware that there are better options out there, as is clear from me resisting the Deviling this whole time, but I just don't deal with them. I leave that stuff up to the uber players.