Question: y u no pvp?

[Evilness45]

Today, I've decided to ask the player base that doesn't do pvp a question.

Why do you not pvp?

By pvp I mean any PvP aspect of the game, be it normal PvP, WoE, or Battleground or any sort.
I'd like lots of participation.

I was told ingame about:
Lack of skills
Lack of gear
People too serious about pvp

I was told in forums about:
Can't sit down and chill
PvP is unrewarding and takes lots of supplies

[Freestyle]

I blame MotE

[AL]

I blame MotE

[Evilness45]

I blame MotE

What's that?

[Kyubey]

Because i can't sit there and kawaii  

I do battlegrounds tho 

[goldmind]

     Well, I won't hold back if it's just out of curiosity or something. I think I've mentioned it a few times on a few threads in that past that I'm only into the PvM aspect of RO.

     As for the why part, I'll be honest about it. I don't wanna feel butthurt in the case that I will be on a "very long losing/death streak". Like, I have a few SQIs (4),a kaho, small set of IC gears, and a variety of PvM cards. With all that I'm set for making more zenny for more gears. But then if I take all that and play it out in WoE or PvP then 1. I'll lose tons of healing items over something I feel isn't as productive as PvM (niffing); and 2. I'll feel bad at the end of the day because of the fact that I don't take HUUUUUGE amounts of GJ or cake with me which results in my being on a long death streak.

     I've entered into WoE for only a few times with Providence. Yeah, it was fun but I still recall dying more than being helpful. And I know a lotta players die and spawn back in WoE and it's all part of playing WoE. But I think to myself, WoE just isn't for me and that's how it's been for, what, all these years in aRO.

     As for Battlegrounds, I had a stronger impression playing BG than of my time in WoE mainly due to the fact that I get immediate rewards just for participating. In BG, whether my team and I win or lose I'll still get medals and that's something I can hold onto. I've only played BG a few times, though.

     Might as well throw it out there: I have never PvP'd.

[SanRath]

I was fine when people potted away damage and whatnot, and I still killed them. But when people had gangs of potters there just wasn't any point to pvping.

Wars are fun, don't get me wrong. I'd join in those anytime.


But the biggest reason I don't pvp is because I just don't have time. I can get online and pvp for 10 minutes when I find a scratch of time but then you just have a bunch of idiots sitting in pvp or a champ:champ that doesn't care to stop for a change of pace.

[Johnsu]

Ill start wars, and leave. Mostly it's fun until everyone calls for backup

[nnmt]

Bunch of super elite gearz0r vets sits and kawaiis in pvp.
Enters newb(s) who begins to cast a spell/looks defenseless/not shiny/no pcb
 =newb(s) gets KoS till said vet leaves

Yeah i know its PvP, you die so dont cry.
But some people are really discouraging towards weaker players who are obviously no match for them.
Some people enter PvP just to have a little change from PvM, but it must get real crap when you cant even survive one FO or Spiral Pierce.
Just looking through a newbie's view
 

[Combo]

Bunch of super elite gearz0r vets sits and kawaiis in pvp.
Enters newb(s) who begins to cast a spell/looks defenseless/not shiny/no pcb
 =newb(s) gets KoS till said vet leaves

Yeah i know its PvP, you die so dont cry.
But some people are really discouraging towards weaker players who are obviously no match for them.
Some people enter PvP just to have a little change from PvM, but it must get real crap when you cant even survive one FO or Spiral Pierce.
Just looking through a newbie's view
 

SQIless Room.  Yeah I know its empty usually.  Just wait a few minutes.

[Skeleton Liar]

Well, goldmind's answer is pretty much exactly what I would've said, but I'll change a few things.

First, I haven't even tried Battlegrounds, and second, I have PvP'd in the past, like in the first year I started playing (on AnimaRO). I really only PvP'd with my friends though, just for fun. And it'd just be like, "Aw, you got me. Let's try again. =)" So really relaxed and actually fun. ...Then some random person would come up and kill us in an instant. Happened multiple times. It's like, whatever gets your dick hard, people. >:|

Plus, there's the whole gear aspect of PvP. Dispite being on this server for, what... 5 years? I'm still fairly poor. I do not make zeny very fast and I've somehow managed to get a DDPT MG, but that is the extent of my good equips (for the most part). This can be attributed to me being more of a casual RO gamer rather than a hardcore one. Just that dagger connot get me anywhere in PvP; I'll be dead in an instant. And why would dying instantly be fun? It isn't, so why bother?

Like, goldmind said, there's no reward for PvPing. And if there's one thing I hate in a video game that I love, it's spending hours or days on something, and not getting anything accomplished/having nothing to show for all the time I spent. (I'm also talking to you, Disgaea games. Especially you, Disgaea 3. >:| )

I absolutely love the PvM aspect of RO, so I'll just stick to that. Far less opportunities to rage quit.

For a shorter list...
- People take it way too seriously
- People tend to give obviously weaker people a hard time, going as far as attacking for no reason other than "lol noob im pro lookit me"
- Gear is too expensive
- It isn't rewarding
- And PvM is fun enough for me to not feel like I'm missing out on not PvPing

[Evilness45]

I appreciate the comments.

I want moar though! Keep em coming!

[Kerax]

I WoE until it gets boring, then I just sit and chill until i get ECalled.
I BG almost everytime there is a BG match, then stop when everyone else does.
I PvP sometimes, then stop if I am 1)Getting ganged, 2) Getting KoS'd,  3) when everyone leaves, or 4) I run out of gj, arrows, and/or pots/money for all that.

[Kain]

pvp is fun until they start going too serious. They start calling me noob and saying I suck if I die. I like it more when I fight people, and it doesn't matter who loses you can still shake hands at the end. It's better that way.

[singer of strange songs]

SQIless Room.  Yeah I know its empty usually.  Just wait a few minutes.

You always spawn in the same spot in that room and its a very small room as well. Only time i went in there, I died on entry due to fire pillar being on the same tile as the spawn tile.