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So, i want a new shield

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Evilness45

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Re: So, i want a new shield
« Reply #15 on: October 10, 2011, 10:12:18 pm »
Why is maya a bad choice?

30 mdef and 18% autoguard seems nice to me
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Re: So, i want a new shield
« Reply #16 on: October 10, 2011, 10:13:16 pm »
Like people are saying, Valk goes best with Toad and Maya.

1) Most useful in PvP/Woe. You might not PvP much, but it still happens. You also BG, and Toad will help more than anything.
2) There's quite a few Demi-human monsters. Most Orcs, Four MvP's, etc, etc. It's still useful for PvM.
3) Resale value. A Toad Valk will sell extremely easily compared to a Tirfing Valk. You might think you won't resell it, but plan for the future, right?

Tirfings most often go in Stone Bucklers, and overupped Guards, due to the ease of use, and relatively cheap value.

Also - It depends on your class too. If you're a Pally, maybe you want an overupped Cross shield instead of a Valk?

Why is maya a bad choice?

30 mdef and 18% autoguard seems nice to me
Mdef isn't all that useful for PvM. I mean - it's good to have, but reducing race or property damage works better. It's by no means a bad idea - but there might be something better out there to get first and foremost.

Edit: Also - hit me up when you plan to BG. I've been meaning to try that. I'm the bloody knight sitting next to you.
« Last Edit: October 10, 2011, 10:30:47 pm by ~Axle~ »

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Re: So, i want a new shield
« Reply #17 on: October 10, 2011, 10:35:44 pm »
Why is maya a bad choice?

30 mdef and 18% autoguard seems nice to me
Get Hodremlin and maya valk's. Your all set. ;3
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Re: So, i want a new shield
« Reply #18 on: October 10, 2011, 10:45:41 pm »
Why is maya a bad choice?

30 mdef and 18% autoguard seems nice to me
Get Hodremlin and maya valk's. Your all set. ;3

Why isnt there simply a card that reduce all damage by 124.5%?

Edit: Also - hit me up when you plan to BG. I've been meaning to try that. I'm the bloody knight sitting next to you.

I do battleground after WoE is over, like everyone else.
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Re: So, i want a new shield
« Reply #19 on: October 10, 2011, 11:09:10 pm »
Why is maya a bad choice?

30 mdef and 18% autoguard seems nice to me
Get Hodremlin and maya valk's. Your all set. ;3

Why isnt there simply a card that reduce all damage by 124.5%?

Edit: Also - hit me up when you plan to BG. I've been meaning to try that. I'm the bloody knight sitting next to you.

I do battleground after WoE is over, like everyone else.
Because 124.5% reduction on everything for a shield card is immensely broken.
Spoiler for My lol moments.:
Assume they do what?
Just assume a answer to your questions until otherwise said. Other than that hope people put up with what they call "Your illegitimate logical reasoning."
lord_nathan9 > exDragon
Oh, I also played a Sura, but had NO idea how to use the bastard. D:
Quite simple actually.
Hyper Spirit Sphere -> Fury -> Hyper Spirit Sphere -> A Sura -> spam gj -> repeat.

LOL
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IGN's: The Mystic - High Priest
~.NightMare.~ - Champion
R4P1DZ - Sniper
-Acid Demo- - Biochemist
Strike Silent - SinX
Dark SoulStrike - Hwiz
Dark Ballad - Clown
Noir Soleil - Prof
I <3 Kaahi - Soul Linker
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Evilness45

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Re: So, i want a new shield
« Reply #20 on: October 10, 2011, 11:19:38 pm »
Why is maya a bad choice?

30 mdef and 18% autoguard seems nice to me
Get Hodremlin and maya valk's. Your all set. ;3

Why isnt there simply a card that reduce all damage by 124.5%?

Edit: Also - hit me up when you plan to BG. I've been meaning to try that. I'm the bloody knight sitting next to you.

I do battleground after WoE is over, like everyone else.
Because 124.5% reduction on everything for a shield card is immensely broken.

I have no idea why.
-Rashidi (SinX)     -Kwik E Mart (BS)     -Celosis (champ)          -BuyMoore (Creator)   -Sorelis (HW)         -Saemund (Sniper)
-Evilness45 (HP)  -GunSmithDog (GS)  -Horrigan (stalker)       -Hyun Jun (SG)            -Leiknir (Stalker)    -Asgrim (Clown)
-Hextor (LK)        -Basaran (Scolar)      -Aegisfield (paladin)    -Tsuruchi Keiji (ninnin)  -Charle Atlas (SN)

My main is one of these, randomly.

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Re: So, i want a new shield
« Reply #21 on: October 11, 2011, 01:51:22 am »
PVM?  Best make yourself multiple race shields then if you want good results.  If not, then Hodremlin like Mystic suggested.
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Re: So, i want a new shield
« Reply #22 on: October 11, 2011, 04:44:01 am »
I only have a Valk Toad and Alice and I keep my PvM Shield which is Tirfing in a Guard and Buckler...

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Re: So, i want a new shield
« Reply #23 on: October 11, 2011, 08:36:52 am »
PVM?  Best make yourself multiple race shields then if you want good results.  If not, then Hodremlin like Mystic suggested.

Ohh, hodremlin seems nice.
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Re: So, i want a new shield
« Reply #24 on: October 11, 2011, 09:02:30 am »
Arg, I was going to suggest Hodremlim.
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Re: So, i want a new shield
« Reply #25 on: October 11, 2011, 09:05:34 am »
Maya is the most useful choice outside of pvp/woe.

Evilness45

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Re: So, i want a new shield
« Reply #26 on: October 11, 2011, 09:30:45 am »
Maya is the most useful choice outside of pvp/woe.

I like to see that since it was my original choice, but some people doesn't seem to agree.
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-Hextor (LK)        -Basaran (Scolar)      -Aegisfield (paladin)    -Tsuruchi Keiji (ninnin)  -Charle Atlas (SN)

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Re: So, i want a new shield
« Reply #27 on: October 11, 2011, 11:02:02 am »
Yeah maya isn't a good choice. I could elaborate in WALLS of text, but axle summed it up nicely. Also johnsu is terrible in pvm, so never listen to him. :police:

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Re: So, i want a new shield
« Reply #28 on: October 11, 2011, 11:05:58 am »
Yeah maya isn't a good choice. I could elaborate in WALLS of text, but axle summed it up nicely. Also johnsu is terrible in pvm, so never listen to him. :police:

You say maya is a good choice, but then you say Axle sum it up (and he says that maya is a good choice).
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Re: So, i want a new shield
« Reply #29 on: October 11, 2011, 11:48:09 am »
I should refer to his post better it was one part that I liked.

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Mdef isn't all that useful for PvM. I mean - it's good to have, but reducing race or property damage works better. It's by no means a bad idea - but there might be something better out there to get first and foremost.


it was this part I meant to refer to. Mdef reduction is nothing really. especially when dealing with physical damage and the plethora of armor ignoring/mdef ignoring stuff, 30 mdef versus 30% racial or 25% size reduction or even elemental reduction can be HUGE depending on what you're going up against.
« Last Edit: October 11, 2011, 11:51:51 am by cis_trans »

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