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100% physical melee reflect Pally?

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100% physical melee reflect Pally?
« on: September 07, 2011, 07:01:33 am »
I was wondering if 100% is achievable?

As far as I know:

Aegis - 15%
Reflect skill - 40%
Orc Lord - 30%
+4 Valk mant - 5% + (4x2% additional per upgrade) = 13%
Pirate Dagger - 1%

Total of 99% reflect?

Or am I calculation the valk mant reflection (class) and additional reflect (upgrade) wrong?
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Re: 100% physical melee reflect Pally?
« Reply #1 on: September 07, 2011, 07:06:16 am »
You're forgetting a number of items. It's possible to go well over 100%. Search RMS item script for 'shortweapondamagereturn'.

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Re: 100% physical melee reflect Pally?
« Reply #2 on: September 07, 2011, 07:12:17 am »
You're forgetting a number of items. It's possible to go well over 100%. Search RMS item script for 'shortweapondamagereturn'.

Ah, weapons. Forgot about that /heh

But am i still calculating the valk mant reflect damage correctly though?


And, IF we we able to do 150% reflect damage, does this means that the actual Damage inflictor will receive 50% more damage to him/her self?
Eg: A champ do asura of 100k to a pally and the pally have 150% reflect. Does this mean that the champ will receive 150k damage to himself? (In the case of ignore def, only taking the reflect into account)
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Re: 100% physical melee reflect Pally?
« Reply #3 on: September 07, 2011, 07:23:10 am »
Does this mean that the champ will receive 150k damage to himself?
Should work that way I assume. Also, not weapons; Shields and hats. I don't see anything wrong with the calculation.

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Re: 100% physical melee reflect Pally?
« Reply #4 on: September 07, 2011, 07:58:28 am »
I've seen pally with over 100% reflect here...Just saying... ;D ;D

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Re: 100% physical melee reflect Pally?
« Reply #5 on: September 07, 2011, 08:24:51 am »
Does this mean that the champ will receive 150k damage to himself?
Should work that way I assume. Also, not weapons; Shields and hats. I don't see anything wrong with the calculation.

Oh lol, i forgot weapons only have reduction like ck /facepalm
Need to do some research on the hats then.
The best shield that have the highest reflect is Aegis I assume which is as already stated in first post /ok
Just found High Orc that gives 5% reflect for shield but i think it would be a waste to be put in Aegis /heh

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I've seen pally with over 100% reflect here...Just saying... ;D ;D

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Edited

Tried Myew search script method and only card, headgear, shield and garment have the reflect effect.
Best reflect for:

Shield - Aegis (Crus/Pally only) 15%
Card - Orc Lord 30%
Top Head - Sheep Hat 5%
Low Head - Pirate Dagger 1%
Garment - Valk Mant 5% + (refine rate*2)

Please let me know if anyone know a better reduction gears other than what is stated here /ok
« Last Edit: September 07, 2011, 08:37:44 am by Pick »
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Re: 100% physical melee reflect Pally?
« Reply #6 on: September 07, 2011, 08:56:21 am »
Just found High Orc that gives 5% reflect for shield but i think it would be a waste to be put in Aegis /heh
Seen 'em.

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Re: 100% physical melee reflect Pally?
« Reply #7 on: September 07, 2011, 08:59:29 am »
Make a +5 valk mant and then you should get 100% with ol/valk mant/skill/shield alone

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Re: 100% physical melee reflect Pally?
« Reply #8 on: September 07, 2011, 10:00:23 am »
If you are intending to Kill champ and stay alive than the above build might do well. If you intend to Kamikaze than Use an Alice Anything with the other reflect gear.

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Re: 100% physical melee reflect Pally?
« Reply #9 on: September 08, 2011, 04:40:12 am »
If you are intending to Kill champ and stay alive than the above build might do well. If you intend to Kamikaze than Use an Alice Anything with the other reflect gear.

Mostly for tanking a frozen Asura and stay alive /heh
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Re: 100% physical melee reflect Pally?
« Reply #10 on: September 08, 2011, 06:13:35 am »
In that case you would need a Diab Mant with Deviling, CK, Valkyrie helm or Berret , Toad shield, GR BG Armor as swaps. Unless the champ was gospel buffed with service  - you should survive.

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Re: 100% physical melee reflect Pally?
« Reply #11 on: September 08, 2011, 01:43:11 pm »
In that case you would need a Diab Mant with Deviling, CK, Valkyrie helm or Berret , Toad shield, GR BG Armor as swaps. Unless the champ was gospel buffed with service  - you should survive.

Oh, this is for tanking the frozen asura and survive right?

I forgot to mention about killing the champ after he/she frozen asura me and stay alive /heh
Not sure if the armor card i should use is OL for the reflect or just go Tao for survival =/

If I use Tao and the champ also swap to Tao, I think I'd die still with frozen asura maybe  ???
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Re: 100% physical melee reflect Pally?
« Reply #12 on: September 08, 2011, 02:16:44 pm »
You can easily set up a build with high relfect, using OlL for reflect, and have all the necessary reducs to survive frozen asuras.

Valk helm
Ck
Devi diab mant
Ol armor
Toad aegis

Higher vit build

You'll want a high, (36k or more) base hp.

You'll have a better survivL chance with tao, but unless they asura with lower health you probably wont kill them with reflect due tothe 30% reflect loss.

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Re: 100% physical melee reflect Pally?
« Reply #13 on: September 09, 2011, 09:36:29 pm »
You can easily set up a build with high relfect, using OlL for reflect, and have all the necessary reducs to survive frozen asuras.

Valk helm
Ck
Devi diab mant
Ol armor
Toad aegis

Higher vit build

You'll want a high, (36k or more) base hp.

You'll have a better survivL chance with tao, but unless they asura with lower health you probably wont kill them with reflect due tothe 30% reflect loss.


How do you get 36k hp without tao o.o

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Re: 100% physical melee reflect Pally?
« Reply #14 on: September 11, 2011, 04:16:02 am »
You can easily set up a build with high relfect, using OlL for reflect, and have all the necessary reducs to survive frozen asuras.

Valk helm
Ck
Devi diab mant
Ol armor
Toad aegis

Higher vit build

You'll want a high, (36k or more) base hp.

You'll have a better survivL chance with tao, but unless they asura with lower health you probably wont kill them with reflect due tothe 30% reflect loss.


How do you get 36k hp without tao o.o

Yeah, I was wondering the same thing  :o
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