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Luxury Hat

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Re: Luxury Hat
« Reply #15 on: August 28, 2011, 03:01:33 pm »

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Re: Luxury Hat
« Reply #16 on: August 28, 2011, 03:36:17 pm »
I'm in.
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Re: Luxury Hat
« Reply #17 on: August 28, 2011, 03:46:41 pm »
Guys, that was just a suggestion. Maybe Talis or Haine are against it, and it's up to us who to invite to the beta anyway, there would be no recruiting or anything, we would PM the persons we'd see fit for participating in the beta.

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Re: Luxury Hat
« Reply #18 on: August 28, 2011, 11:26:25 pm »
1. how this thread derailed so fast @_@
2.how would you know to get volunteers?
3.if i get volunteered then i can't at the time being ::) XD


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Re: Luxury Hat
« Reply #19 on: August 29, 2011, 04:14:07 am »
Let's not forget how the last closed beta ended  :police:

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Re: Luxury Hat
« Reply #20 on: August 29, 2011, 05:21:03 am »
Let's not forget how the last closed beta ended  :police:
How did it end?

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Re: Luxury Hat
« Reply #21 on: August 29, 2011, 05:26:45 am »
Let's not forget how the last closed beta ended  :police:
How did it end?

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Re: Luxury Hat
« Reply #22 on: August 29, 2011, 06:10:28 am »
Let's not forget how the last closed beta ended  :police:
How did it end?

Don't feed the troll. It'll die from hunger. Eventually.

How am I trolling do you even know what that means  ::)

Let's not forget how the last closed beta ended  :police:
How did it end?

Well it ended quite badly once 1 particular player found out about it they Posted a thread revealing all the testers sadly it's quite difficult to trust anyone with the right intentions >.>;

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Re: Luxury Hat
« Reply #23 on: August 29, 2011, 06:21:34 am »
That's only half of it.

2 Different guilds who were testing were constantly accusing us of favoring the other guild. Both of them were accusing us of this - simultaneously. For no reason other than the fact that they are not being favored ( herp derp if they are not favoring us, they must be favoring THEM ! ).

Needless to say things spiraled out of control and everything just ended up being dumb.

And when we had a public test server, people were spending 99% of their time in PVP using 99/70 trans they made in 1 hour and SQI's they bought from the NPC. After they had their PVP fill for a few hours they quit on both main and test cause they "unlocked all secrets" which "destroyed their motivation to actually have to WORK for shit".

I'd love it if test server's worked but it seems they don't so bah. Sucks.
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Re: Luxury Hat
« Reply #24 on: August 29, 2011, 08:42:25 am »
That's only half of it.

2 Different guilds who were testing were constantly accusing us of favoring the other guild. Both of them were accusing us of this - simultaneously. For no reason other than the fact that they are not being favored ( herp derp if they are not favoring us, they must be favoring THEM ! ).

Needless to say things spiraled out of control and everything just ended up being dumb.

And when we had a public test server, people were spending 99% of their time in PVP using 99/70 trans they made in 1 hour and SQI's they bought from the NPC. After they had their PVP fill for a few hours they quit on both main and test cause they "unlocked all secrets" which "destroyed their motivation to actually have to WORK for shit".

I'd love it if test server's worked but it seems they don't so bah. Sucks.

Which is why you should never invite people where too much drama lingers around them. Which is mainly those two 'parties' your leading to.

Should have kept it aimed at less people, with less biased opinions, and with a much shorter friend list. Since leaked information is practically an obvious issue, when you bring in big 'close relation guilds' like those. Only a matter of moments until their entire guild/friends/ect know the specs or idea of everything being tested.

Plus you tend to get the people that just like to do it for the mere 'flaunt' aspect. To say 'HEY! Lookie what I was a part of!'; when they practically contributed nothing, aside from simply wanting to push the limits of what they could get added to an item, for selfish gains afterwards. (See Fenrir) I recall certain individuals would spend godly hours in DG just easy-mode farming when they were supposed to be actually testing in multiple environments and playing styles. Turned out to be a get rich quick scheme instead. Also you would just see them in PvP for godly hours as well, trying to flaunt their ridiculous damage and the fact they were chosen to test, to all their buddies.

I don't mind either to a degree, so long as the sole purpose of testing is in mind. The thing that bothers me is when you get the numbers, move on to another thing. Don't just linger there (money maps/PvP) for selfish reasons.

Ask Shro, and you'll get an idea of what testing should really be like.

Anyway, this is why testing will continue to prove to be a complete waste of time, unless extremely specific people are targeted or just do it as a GM only thing. Let the chips fall as they may, and afterwards make the tweaks.

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Re: Luxury Hat
« Reply #25 on: August 29, 2011, 09:40:26 am »
blah blah blah vets abooz blah blah

Lemme test my beer hat aleady! >:(

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Re: Luxury Hat
« Reply #26 on: August 29, 2011, 11:42:11 am »
Well u could make it public for a month or so. It's not like it's gonna go crazy. If not that then just invite players that will acually "test" the things not just mess around. I myself wanna test a few things like DBT Mjol. If it works, i might uncard my mjol and switch out my sam card to a tg card.

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Re: Luxury Hat
« Reply #27 on: August 29, 2011, 02:21:37 pm »
Must be vets or players you are sure wont quit the server. Since Vets have already reached the game end - its unlikely they will quit.

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Re: Luxury Hat
« Reply #28 on: August 29, 2011, 02:52:03 pm »
Well u could make it public for a month or so. It's not like it's gonna go crazy. If not that then just invite players that will acually "test" the things not just mess around. I myself wanna test a few things like DBT Mjol. If it works, i might uncard my mjol and switch out my sam card to a tg card.

Thats exactly what a test server is totally not about.

A test server is not to test wich builds suits you best (this was the big mistake made in the Rachel episode test)

You're on a test server to test the incoming new content, not what already exists. That's what official Sakrays tests server exist for. If there was a change in something that is already existing then go ahead, but if you're there to tests builds for your own convenience, then you shouldn't be there.. =/
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Re: Luxury Hat
« Reply #29 on: August 29, 2011, 05:01:23 pm »
Well u could make it public for a month or so. It's not like it's gonna go crazy. If not that then just invite players that will acually "test" the things not just mess around. I myself wanna test a few things like DBT Mjol. If it works, i might uncard my mjol and switch out my sam card to a tg card.

Thats exactly what a test server is totally not about.

A test server is not to test wich builds suits you best (this was the big mistake made in the Rachel episode test)

You're on a test server to test the incoming new content, not what already exists. That's what official Sakrays tests server exist for. If there was a change in something that is already existing then go ahead, but if you're there to tests builds for your own convenience, then you shouldn't be there.. =/
So is it just for like new players to check out the server or something? Or is it to like check out new maps and bugs, ect.