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Why is it so hard to get a group for BG?

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Evilness45

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Re: Why is it so hard to get a group for BG?
« Reply #15 on: July 05, 2011, 05:12:40 pm »
I want the asura fist, its called huuuh.... *rms* Brave Battle Fist
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It look so effing strong I bet I could compete with another champ that uses a suiken.
Now, I only need to win Tierra 27 times, a breeze.

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Re: Why is it so hard to get a group for BG?
« Reply #16 on: July 05, 2011, 05:13:35 pm »
Well I dunno about the Suiken Champ but it's better than a TTHH Mace.

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Re: Why is it so hard to get a group for BG?
« Reply #17 on: July 05, 2011, 05:19:51 pm »
Today, I've realized that I've been gathering the wrong kind of badge all along. I have to get the slow one that nobody wants, the Tierra one.

It didn't made me happy realizing that.

That was you bugging me to bg yesterday, and it was all for nothing? Ouch.

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Re: Why is it so hard to get a group for BG?
« Reply #18 on: July 05, 2011, 07:50:51 pm »
People are very patient so that is not it.  The real reason is people do stuff for reward or fun.  Because of the huge lack of people playing it, it doesn't provide enough fun to keep people coming so the only thing that will keep people coming are the rewards.  SQIs/MVP cards diminish the value of the rewards so some of them are useless to some people.  Also once you get what few rewards you want, most people stop playing.  It has been said a lot already but I'll say it again. If you want more people to play BGs then you need better rewards.

Here is a good start but there needs to be more.

http://www.animusro.com/forums/index.php/topic,109842.0.html
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Katakana

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Re: Why is it so hard to get a group for BG?
« Reply #19 on: July 05, 2011, 08:03:44 pm »
i've only been once, i'm not a person that lives in pvp  - i don't have super sqi island items but i thought it was good - i want to go again but not enough people willing to go  TT
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ホントは そうじゃない
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みんながいる前では いつだってそう 
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絶対的な信頼と 対照的な行動
絶望的な運命が ある日恋に変わる
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キミが 好き わかりにくいね
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exDragon

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Re: Why is it so hard to get a group for BG?
« Reply #20 on: July 05, 2011, 08:13:32 pm »
On a server this small we will need a lot of people to keep BGs going.  The population of people that will come just for fun only is not large enough and gets spread out to much by time.  There is a huge lack of will of people to come to BGs because they don't see the point of it.  Matches have literally been held up 30+ minutes trying to get 1/2 people.  The other 18/19 sat there the entire time waiting for that one person to join.
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Fidelis

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Re: Why is it so hard to get a group for BG?
« Reply #21 on: July 06, 2011, 06:54:46 am »
I guess it's because of the same reasoning only a few guilds/people do WoE. BG requires team effort, and as such, it requires a leader of some sorts. If there is no such person, or if there are two or three who want to be that leader, things tend to get chaotic, and people lose fun.
Actually, if it's because of rewards, a lot more people should to BG instead of WoE, since you can BG ALL THE TIME, while there are only two WoE days each week to get a castle (and the treasure chests).
So I really doubt it's because of the rewards, and I don't want to make the rewards ridiculously high. It's not my problem if there is content (no matter if custom or official), but people don't use it. Even if it's just about Gravity rewards.
We could also lower the number of players needed for each match, but I'm also against that. The whole "feeling" of BG gets lost when there are just a mere 5 people fighting against another team of 5 people on a big map.

Maybe if you want these things to change, how about inviting really new players to the top tier guilds, instead of only keeping vets in there? That'll make the newer players get used to things such as WoE or BG or PvP.

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Re: Why is it so hard to get a group for BG?
« Reply #22 on: July 06, 2011, 07:38:16 am »
I have to invite myself to a top tier guild now?
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Katakana

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Re: Why is it so hard to get a group for BG?
« Reply #23 on: July 06, 2011, 07:44:40 am »
if i did that, i'd get kicked for being stupid :/
そんな 退屈なフリして
今は 気分じゃないとか きっと キミは言うけど     
ホントは そうじゃない
どうだっていいみたい感じ
不器用な表情も好きだよ

みんながいる前では いつだってそう 
まるで機嫌悪いみたい
こんなやつって態度して
見えない角度で手をつないできた

絶対的な信頼と 対照的な行動
絶望的な運命が ある日恋に変わる
一方的な表現の ツンデレーション
キミが 好き わかりにくいね
Please don't try to lecture me on wizards any further. I played one since they were introduced.

kthxbai

Evilness45

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Re: Why is it so hard to get a group for BG?
« Reply #24 on: July 06, 2011, 07:52:01 am »
And I'm pretty certain I'll have to find a way to convince them for doing battleground too. Since, well, they don't do that.
-Rashidi (SinX)     -Kwik E Mart (BS)     -Celosis (champ)          -BuyMoore (Creator)   -Sorelis (HW)         -Saemund (Sniper)
-Evilness45 (HP)  -GunSmithDog (GS)  -Horrigan (stalker)       -Hyun Jun (SG)            -Leiknir (Stalker)    -Asgrim (Clown)
-Hextor (LK)        -Basaran (Scolar)      -Aegisfield (paladin)    -Tsuruchi Keiji (ninnin)  -Charle Atlas (SN)

My main is one of these, randomly.

Fidelis

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Re: Why is it so hard to get a group for BG?
« Reply #25 on: July 06, 2011, 08:04:18 am »
Yeah, that's what I was trying to point out. What is the reason for a top tier guild to do WoE? Are treasure chest drops THAT good? Why shouldn't they do BG as well? Maybe because they don't need BG rewards, since they already have better gear. But if there were not-so-well-equipped players in that guild, they'd have a reason to do BG?
Things like BG can much more easily be done within guilds, instead of randomly trying to recruit 19 other players.

Katakana

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Re: Why is it so hard to get a group for BG?
« Reply #26 on: July 06, 2011, 08:15:39 am »
does that mean we have to make a guild for BG?
そんな 退屈なフリして
今は 気分じゃないとか きっと キミは言うけど     
ホントは そうじゃない
どうだっていいみたい感じ
不器用な表情も好きだよ

みんながいる前では いつだってそう 
まるで機嫌悪いみたい
こんなやつって態度して
見えない角度で手をつないできた

絶対的な信頼と 対照的な行動
絶望的な運命が ある日恋に変わる
一方的な表現の ツンデレーション
キミが 好き わかりにくいね
Please don't try to lecture me on wizards any further. I played one since they were introduced.

kthxbai

Evilness45

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Re: Why is it so hard to get a group for BG?
« Reply #27 on: July 06, 2011, 08:17:42 am »
I dunno how that works much, Fidelis. Top tier guilds don't want to do BG, and we are supposed to convince them to recruit new players so that they will want to do BG? Shouldn't they just be better off doing nothing in the first place?
-Rashidi (SinX)     -Kwik E Mart (BS)     -Celosis (champ)          -BuyMoore (Creator)   -Sorelis (HW)         -Saemund (Sniper)
-Evilness45 (HP)  -GunSmithDog (GS)  -Horrigan (stalker)       -Hyun Jun (SG)            -Leiknir (Stalker)    -Asgrim (Clown)
-Hextor (LK)        -Basaran (Scolar)      -Aegisfield (paladin)    -Tsuruchi Keiji (ninnin)  -Charle Atlas (SN)

My main is one of these, randomly.

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Re: Why is it so hard to get a group for BG?
« Reply #28 on: July 06, 2011, 08:19:48 am »
most of the player recruits doesn't stay long enough so we hardly make a 3 or another 4 rounds of match.














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Evilness45

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Re: Why is it so hard to get a group for BG?
« Reply #29 on: July 06, 2011, 08:25:26 am »
most of the player recruits doesn't stay long enough so we hardly make a 3 or another 4 rounds of match.

I heard something about new players loathing having to fight fully geared people, too.
-Rashidi (SinX)     -Kwik E Mart (BS)     -Celosis (champ)          -BuyMoore (Creator)   -Sorelis (HW)         -Saemund (Sniper)
-Evilness45 (HP)  -GunSmithDog (GS)  -Horrigan (stalker)       -Hyun Jun (SG)            -Leiknir (Stalker)    -Asgrim (Clown)
-Hextor (LK)        -Basaran (Scolar)      -Aegisfield (paladin)    -Tsuruchi Keiji (ninnin)  -Charle Atlas (SN)

My main is one of these, randomly.