List of Two-hand swords

[tsukaza13]

Sure you can but really you wanna do frenzy with no shield?

Activating Parrying before you Frenzy generally gives you a lot more reduction than any shield could. Unless it was a specialized one like GTB, I suppose.

why is it retarded? maybe they want luck, str or vit and not agi?

You don't need to sacrifice those stats for a two hand LK without doppel. I prefer doing as much damage as I can in the least amount of time I can, but that's just me. I guess it's preference mainly.

So how would you do it? ;o

[Razer]

Using a doppel on a two handed LK is retarded imo. Waste of a card slot.

Why is it retarded ? You cant get 190 ASPD without frenzy or statting in high AGI otherwise.

[Neetox]

Using a doppel on a two handed LK is retarded imo. Waste of a card slot.

Why is it retarded ? You cant get 190 ASPD without frenzy or statting in high AGI otherwise.

You don't need 190 attackspeed to do considerable damage. Unless you're just melee'ing. Then you're just doing it wrong and should keep your shitty damage.

[Razer]

Using a doppel on a two handed LK is retarded imo. Waste of a card slot.

Why is it retarded ? You cant get 190 ASPD without frenzy or statting in high AGI otherwise.

You don't need 190 attackspeed to do considerable damage. Unless you're just melee'ing. Then you're just doing it wrong and should keep your shitty damage.

Then by your logic Smiths should use Cart revo instead of Meleeing ? I understand BB is awesome but still bothersome. People have preference over playing styles. Some like comfort while some are intense with skill usage. Its rather unsporting to call other playstyles as retarded or shitty.

On a personal note - I prefer Spear LKs Brandishing for training LKs. On a 2H LK I would just be on for fun and meeling like a Sinx or a smith. Rounding up shit,positioning and BBing isnt fun for some.

[Neetox]

IF Cart Revo did more dps than just melee'ing, then yes that's my logic. BB isn't bothersome. It's never been bothersome since the switch to eA, so I don't know why everyone is complaining. BB is just one of the useful skills a LK has to level/kill shit. Like I said, I know it's personal preference, but playing badly because you like playing badly doesn't mean you're playing well.


And yea I prefer having a shield and spear as well but a two handed LK can level efficiently with a two hand sword as well. As long as they know what they're doing.

[@schoLary@]

IF Cart Revo did more dps than just melee'ing, then yes that's my logic. BB isn't bothersome. It's never been bothersome since the switch to eA, so I don't know why everyone is complaining. BB is just one of the useful skills a LK has to level/kill shit. Like I said, I know it's personal preference, but playing badly because you like playing badly doesn't mean you're playing well.


And yea I prefer having a shield and spear as well but a two handed LK can level efficiently with a two hand sword as well. As long as they know what they're doing.

So let me get this straight. Judging by what you say, a LK should just use the highest damaging skill to kill bloody everything and not take into account anything else because in PvE all you need to do is kill shit through pure damage?

[tsukaza13]

Apparently. Whacking things to death is more fun IMO.

[Neetox]

IF Cart Revo did more dps than just melee'ing, then yes that's my logic. BB isn't bothersome. It's never been bothersome since the switch to eA, so I don't know why everyone is complaining. BB is just one of the useful skills a LK has to level/kill shit. Like I said, I know it's personal preference, but playing badly because you like playing badly doesn't mean you're playing well.


And yea I prefer having a shield and spear as well but a two handed LK can level efficiently with a two hand sword as well. As long as they know what they're doing.

So let me get this straight. Judging by what you say, a LK should just use the highest damaging skill to kill bloody everything and not take into account anything else because in PvE all you need to do is kill shit through pure damage?

Again, I thought the point was to do as much damage to a monster in order to kill them/level efficiently. It's not only about using the highest damage attack, it's about using the right high damaging skill. If you're going to bowling bash around with 140 aspd, you're doing it wrong, or if you're brandishing or BB'ing with full str and no vit or anyway of reducing damage, you're doing it wrong. Spiraling with a slow as hell cast time even with a TTT Nib, is still doing it wrong. It's not all about the highest damage, it's about the highest dps. Finding the balance between attack speed and high damage output that makes you kill shit faster and more efficiently without having to spam through a ton of meats in order to stay alive. I have fun playing smart unlike most of the server. :p

[Razer]

Finding the balance between attack speed and high damage output that makes you kill shit faster and more efficiently without having to spam through a ton of meats in order to stay alive. I have fun playing smart unlike most of the server. :p

There are times you would be wrong in self belief that your methods are best . None of us are always 100% correct .

[Neetox]

I never said I was right. I merely suggested what I think to be the best strategy when using a two handed LK. Whether or not people want to believe me or not, is up to them. I'm only here to try and share the awesomeness. 

[@schoLary@]

I never said I was right. I merely suggested what I think to be the best strategy when using a two handed LK. Whether or not people want to believe me or not, is up to them. I'm only here to try and share the awesomeness. 

So wouldn't that mean having 190 ASPD be a good thing then?

[Neetox]

I never said I was right. I merely suggested what I think to be the best strategy when using a two handed LK. Whether or not people want to believe me or not, is up to them. I'm only here to try and share the awesomeness. 

So wouldn't that mean having 190 ASPD be a good thing then?

Without a Doppel? Yea, cause then that slot would be better used with a TG or something. I just tested a random build and I get 185 aspd without a doppel and 35k HP. That's with 99 vit which is a big no no. I'm just demonstrating how your HP doesn't have to suffer from adding some agi. You just gotta know what stats to place. Also, I'm not sure if people know but berz accessories help Bowling Bash's after cast delay for some reason. Makes it seem like your dps is a lot faster. Same build without berz and it was noticeably slower. One berz accessory and a Meg or something else would work just as well.

[Bagel-kun]

you say that like everyone in the world has access to those accesories. Id imagine people would have the weapon with its card for a length of time before getting the other items.

Anyways i prefer crit builds on knights anyways so i would get the doppel and be stating luck not agi.

[Razer]

And Crits splash as well. Better on high defence stuff like Raydrics or monsters which drain SP like Incubus. Bowling bash Wont work well vs a mob of high defence stuff. Especially if that stuff also casts skilsl to drain your SP all the time. It will become a sloppy, annoying affair.

[Neetox]

If you can buy Doppel, Bapho, and Samurai cards, that's 3 Berz Cards you could've purchased.

And Crit's only good for melee'ing but even then, you still don't need a doppel since all you need for crit is 2 gryphs and you're golden. =/