Q: Which is better, +4 Valk Shield or overupped (+7~9) bucker ?

[jepoy21]

Better value for money?
I currently have a +5 tirfing buckler...

[skith]

Do you want to card it with a Tirfing card?

[pepesmith]

Valkyrie Shield is good coz  it has elemental reduction but for card I prefer Hodrelim instead of Tirfing for mobbing purposes. But for universal usage you will never go wrong with high upgraded Guard[1]/Stone Buckler[1].

[Xia Xue]

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i also thought of that there's elemental reduction if its valk and also prefers Hodremlin card for all size.

[jepoy21]

My current use for it is for niffing..
i'm actually eyeing the +9 tirfing buckler in prontera...however, for its price, i was thinking maybe valk shield would be better..

also, which would be a nice devi garment for my WS? i currently have +8devi hood..is the addition 5% neutral of a diablous manteu worth it? or would +7 wolfheidan be better? (again for niffing)

[The Mystic]

My current use for it is for niffing..
i'm actually eyeing the +9 tirfing buckler in prontera...however, for its price, i was thinking maybe valk shield would be better..

also, which would be a nice devi garment for my WS? i currently have +8devi hood..is the addition 5% neutral of a diablous manteu worth it? or would +7 wolfheidan be better? (again for niffing)

Hodremlin Valk > Tirf Valk for niff
Hodremlin S. Buckler > Tirf valk
Diab mant and wolfheiden are a tie. Depends on gears If using ring of reso go for diab, otherwise wolfheiden.
or wait for shadow garbs.

[jepoy21]

what are shadow garbs? (no idea)

Does Hodremlin also do good protection for MVPs?
I'm also looking for valk mant (which is my main target actually)

why is Hodremlin S. Buckler > Tirf valk?  (or is this assuming that S.Buckler is +7?)

[The Mystic]

what are shadow garbs? (no idea)

Does Hodremlin also do good protection for MVPs?
I'm also looking for valk mant (which is my main target actually)

why is Hodremlin S. Buckler > Tirf valk?  (or is this assuming that S.Buckler is +7?)

Just because of the card effects and the fact that everything in niff is of every size. But Hodremlin valk would be much better than a S. Buckler. So if you plan to hardcore farm niff stick with going for a hodremlin valk. Shadow garbs drop from a MVP that isn't out yet. Hodremlin isn't the best for MVP but it will get you by.

[Xia Xue]

what are shadow garbs? (no idea)

Does Hodremlin also do good protection for MVPs?
I'm also looking for valk mant (which is my main target actually)

why is Hodremlin S. Buckler > Tirf valk?  (or is this assuming that S.Buckler is +7?)

the difference is that Hodremlin reduces 15% dmg from all size monsters and i think there's 1 more effect while tirfing only gives you deduction to medium type monsters by 25% + you get +1def.

[The Mystic]

what are shadow garbs? (no idea)

Does Hodremlin also do good protection for MVPs?
I'm also looking for valk mant (which is my main target actually)

why is Hodremlin S. Buckler > Tirf valk?  (or is this assuming that S.Buckler is +7?)

the difference is that Hodremlin reduces 15% dmg from all size monsters and i think there's 1 more effect while tirfing only gives you deduction to medium type monsters by 25% + you get +1def.

The other effect is chance of + 30 Pdodge, which imo is awesome! when it proc's I take immensely less :3
Also swapping to a fortune sword while it's proc'ed makes them miss even more. Good thing perfect dodge isn't affected by the amount of mobs you have :3 Very nice when soloing and mobbing priests who take a little while to kill the mob.

[rolover]

pretty sure there are a few shadow garbs floating around because of the summoning event, unless they didn't drop any :x

[The Mystic]

pretty sure there are a few shadow garbs floating around because of the summoning event, unless they didn't drop any :x

Their are shadow garbs in the econ, but as of now all their unique abilities are completely disabled. basically just a wool scarf until further notice. (when nid comes out the regular bonus will be re-enabled.)