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Orlean Glove+Server combo

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Re: Orlean Glove+Server combo
« Reply #15 on: January 26, 2011, 04:55:49 pm »
It... wasn't changed, gives the same thing it gives on rms, I JUST checked this cause I wasn't aware we'd done anything.

http://www.animusro.com/forums/index.php/topic,63039.0.html
http://www.animusro.com/forums/index.php/topic,90282.msg2357945.html#msg2357945
http://www.animusro.com/forums/index.php/topic,74530.msg1878855.html#msg1878855
http://www.animusro.com/forums/index.php/topic,76468.msg1879162.html#msg1879162

^I did my research. Does this mean we can use them for berz again, or will it be a total waste of money? Not that I have berz.. or will for a very long time. ._. But I have dreams too. >:

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Re: Orlean Glove+Server combo
« Reply #16 on: January 26, 2011, 06:43:15 pm »
I'm gonna talk to talis, but neither myself, nor Haine recall ever changing it, so Talis might have.  But looking at our old item_db, it's -1 casting time there too, which would mean it's NEVER been after cast delay, it's always been -1% cast time, at least since we switched to eathena
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Re: Orlean Glove+Server combo
« Reply #17 on: January 26, 2011, 08:23:12 pm »
But you put a wizard in woe, who has IC, and maxed int/vit, anyone not wearing gtb is gonna get trashed, AND that wizard will be able to survive things most other wizards can't, at least not without that other wizard sacrificing stats.

Mostly are wearing GTB when they see Magic type job.Wizard can't wear,let's say lv 90 HW.Why they shouldn't deserve to have more hp like other job can?and the other job can be non trans and lower level can punch the lv HW 90 just using a gtb.I don't see any problem why they can't? Compare from what Valash said;Kiel build is far away better than this.



one more thing,Beelzebub gives 30% reduce cast or 33% reduce cast??
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Re: Orlean Glove+Server combo
« Reply #18 on: January 26, 2011, 08:33:11 pm »
I'm gonna talk to talis, but neither myself, nor Haine recall ever changing it, so Talis might have.  But looking at our old item_db, it's -1 casting time there too, which would mean it's NEVER been after cast delay, it's always been -1% cast time, at least since we switched to eathena

You are right Farn, Rune has always been -1% Cast Reduction. Which was why there were was a few Berz ones around. Just to add a couple more %'s to the mix. Been like that long before Expert Rings were even introduced too.

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Re: Orlean Glove+Server combo
« Reply #19 on: January 26, 2011, 08:37:57 pm »
So who started this rumor that they were after cast delay and not cast redux? :/ *gets out flogging whip*

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Re: Orlean Glove+Server combo
« Reply #20 on: January 26, 2011, 09:21:09 pm »
Why would you believe someone else, when you owned the item yourself? It was right there in the desc, and always has been. -_-;

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Re: Orlean Glove+Server combo
« Reply #21 on: January 26, 2011, 09:22:03 pm »
So who started this rumor that they were after cast delay and not cast redux? :/ *gets out flogging whip*

One of the GMs.  It's been so long I forgot who.
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Re: Orlean Glove+Server combo
« Reply #22 on: January 26, 2011, 10:55:49 pm »
But you put a wizard in woe, who has IC, and maxed int/vit, anyone not wearing gtb is gonna get trashed, AND that wizard will be able to survive things most other wizards can't, at least not without that other wizard sacrificing stats.

Mostly are wearing GTB when they see Magic type job.Wizard can't wear,let's say lv 90 HW.Why they shouldn't deserve to have more hp like other job can?and the other job can be non trans and lower level can punch the lv HW 90 just using a gtb.I don't see any problem why they can't? Compare from what Valash said;Kiel build is far away better than this.



one more thing,Beelzebub gives 30% reduce cast or 33% reduce cast??

Lack of HP has ALWAYS been a key mark of users of magic and healing, because they're capable of well, MAGIC AND HEALING.  It's a universal anchor that as far as I'm aware, all rpgs of any fashion have in common.  What on earth is the reasoning of why we should change our server to counter most of rpg culture.

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Re: Orlean Glove+Server combo
« Reply #23 on: January 27, 2011, 01:16:54 am »
Different people have different minded,If that's what you think magic type job will become invisible and too tough,So I don't have words anymore except resell those useless reduce cast gears and maybe I'll play reduce after cast delay with IC,that's sounds better.

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Re: Orlean Glove+Server combo
« Reply #24 on: January 27, 2011, 10:32:42 am »
Why would you believe someone else, when you owned the item yourself?
Not that I have berz.. or will for a very long time. ._. But I have dreams too. >:
I had only said that I planned to buy them and did research on the forums and in-game. With multiple people on the forums citing that it was aftercast delay, it only made sense to believe them. The mechanics threads have always been more accurate than in-game descriptions... but I'm not bothering with maxing out Pally anymore, at least not until after I finish my SG. I'm glad to know that Rune Charm Stones are working as intended, I'll probably end up getting them eventually.. if I ever get into an SM party.

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Re: Orlean Glove+Server combo
« Reply #25 on: January 27, 2011, 11:49:29 am »
It's good to know Rune Charm Stones are working as intended.

.-.  Though, I just got two Berze Rosaries.  I wonder if I can trade them for Berze Rune Charm Stones, so my paladin can have IC.

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Re: Orlean Glove+Server combo
« Reply #26 on: January 27, 2011, 03:08:01 pm »
Why would you believe someone else, when you owned the item yourself?
Not that I have berz.. or will for a very long time. ._. But I have dreams too. >:
I had only said that I planned to buy them and did research on the forums and in-game. With multiple people on the forums citing that it was aftercast delay, it only made sense to believe them. The mechanics threads have always been more accurate than in-game descriptions... but I'm not bothering with maxing out Pally anymore, at least not until after I finish my SG. I'm glad to know that Rune Charm Stones are working as intended, I'll probably end up getting them eventually.. if I ever get into an SM party.

Personally I would rather have 2x Berz Expert Rings over 2x Berz Rune Charms any day of the week. I personally own neither, due to having 2x Berz Bris instead, but if I had to choose between those two. I'd go for the -10% Cast Delay as opposed to -2% Cast Reduction.


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Re: Orlean Glove+Server combo
« Reply #27 on: January 27, 2011, 06:51:49 pm »
Non trans can wear Rune charm stone while only trans can wear expert ring.
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Re: Orlean Glove+Server combo
« Reply #28 on: January 28, 2011, 08:06:48 am »
Doesn't change my opinion in the slightest. I just think Rune Charm is trash. I'd rather have a Rosary instead, if it was strictly for non-trans purposes. I value Mdef more than a measly single % of Cast Reduction.

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Re: Orlean Glove+Server combo
« Reply #29 on: January 28, 2011, 10:58:01 am »
Now,I just figure it out myself why GM changed it.Is it because champion using dexless ic and still can wear kaho on top of head with 99 str and 99 int and a few vit to do max asura?No wonder why.

I should try it even the bonus 5% now because still can wear DI valk and CTM mid.but for magic class wearing after cast delay set is better.
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