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Orlean Glove+Server combo

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Orlean Glove+Server combo
« on: January 24, 2011, 07:59:15 pm »
The original combo says 10% reduce casting.Since when did we changed it to 5% and why?????
Please change it back to 10%.

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Re: Orlean Glove+Server combo
« Reply #1 on: January 24, 2011, 09:14:42 pm »
They decided they didn't want people getting IC without dex.  As to why, your have to get an answer from them.
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Re: Orlean Glove+Server combo
« Reply #2 on: January 24, 2011, 10:13:39 pm »
They decided they didn't want people getting IC without dex.  As to why, your have to get an answer from them.
I call bullshit  >:(

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Re: Orlean Glove+Server combo
« Reply #3 on: January 24, 2011, 11:59:25 pm »
They decided they didn't want people getting IC without dex.  As to why, your have to get an answer from them.

yeah i wonder why they dont want it... having dex less IC are ain't cheap so why not allowing them?
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Re: Orlean Glove+Server combo
« Reply #4 on: January 25, 2011, 10:28:29 am »
The original combo says 10% reduce casting.Since when did we changed it to 5% and why?????
Please change it back to 10%.
Make a suggestion, I dont think Gms will change it just because you tell them to O-o

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Re: Orlean Glove+Server combo
« Reply #5 on: January 25, 2011, 09:43:05 pm »
100% Cast Reduction gear + 99 VIT + 99 INT isn't a problem?

They're meant to be squishy. I agree with the GM's mentality on this one.

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Re: Orlean Glove+Server combo
« Reply #6 on: January 25, 2011, 11:09:50 pm »
100% Cast Reduction gear + 99 VIT + 99 INT isn't a problem?

They're meant to be squishy. I agree with the GM's mentality on this one.

This was it exactly, we didn't think the idea of max hp and int was a good idea, especially adding in a HW card that's easily accessible.
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Re: Orlean Glove+Server combo
« Reply #7 on: January 25, 2011, 11:57:15 pm »
They are only for Trans 90+ and the stuffs are not cheap.Besides,magic type job have crappy hp and for woe/pvp the opponent just wearing gtb.Why when there is stuff that give a good buff like these things for magic type job,we wont make it happen.HW Card is not as good as ppl think,for woe/pvp only opponent that don't wear gtb with high mdef only pain which is not many ppl use mdef set stuff and the mdef just go to 0 mdef which mean 0 mdef opponent only received same dmg as we don't use HW Card.I rather like to see GM can change the function of HW Card which is ignoring 50% mdef to -50 mdef,that's better.Otherwise give back Orlean Combo 5% to 10%.
« Last Edit: January 25, 2011, 11:58:57 pm by Kane »

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Re: Orlean Glove+Server combo
« Reply #8 on: January 26, 2011, 01:56:11 am »
At the same time, 100 MDEF is easy to achieve, and GTB is available too. Wizards are glass canons, but in PvP/WoE, practically useless other than forcing everyone to wear GTB over toad. In other words, yes, magic can be insanely strong and yes, 99 vit, 99 int would be insane, but one card or one universal gear set literally destroys the class.

And don't say Champions with Pneumonia do the same thing to snipers; there are methods that don't involve gear-breaking to get around that skill. Also, it is not a universal skill. The card activates when you're hit quite a bit (5% or 1% chance?)

I don't know what to think. On the one hand, if you're  going to say no to 100% reduction, please at LEAST correct the card in game. This is one of the dozens of people complaining this same thing.

Also, 95% reduction makes 15 second cast time into .7 sec, which is the cast time of amplify magical power. That's a relatively slow cast time (despite that sounds relatively fast).

Maybe wizard sqi should be modified to give a low increase (4%?) that won't give IC but give a very nice cast time for the 15 second skills.

Also, what about the whole IC with Paladin? How does that compare/fit into this equation?

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Re: Orlean Glove+Server combo
« Reply #9 on: January 26, 2011, 02:28:38 am »
My dream Pally build was destroyed when Rune Charm Stone was altered with nothing in the Change Log or descriptions or anything. I had even asked if it was buyable via spend credits. That's really not cool. :/ I'm just lucky that I do my research.

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Re: Orlean Glove+Server combo
« Reply #10 on: January 26, 2011, 10:08:48 am »
You can't even get IC with a cast reducton build without giving up kahos (so you do less damage ) and high wizard card (so you can't amplify your damage on non GTBers).
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Re: Orlean Glove+Server combo
« Reply #11 on: January 26, 2011, 12:03:37 pm »
So whats about melee type job? they dont need to put dex to get hit and with phreeoni(100 HIT) make them 99 vit 99 str and no need dex+no need agi because doppel too.So,bring the orleans' combo back to normal.
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Re: Orlean Glove+Server combo
« Reply #12 on: January 26, 2011, 12:14:46 pm »
Your points are moot.

Besides, personally I find the way I utilize my HW to be far more lulzy and effective.

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Re: Orlean Glove+Server combo
« Reply #13 on: January 26, 2011, 12:20:26 pm »
Sounds interesting.another good option but still hoping gm can change it back  :(

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Re: Orlean Glove+Server combo
« Reply #14 on: January 26, 2011, 12:29:47 pm »
My dream Pally build was destroyed when Rune Charm Stone was altered with nothing in the Change Log or descriptions or anything. I had even asked if it was buyable via spend credits. That's really not cool. :/ I'm just lucky that I do my research.

It... wasn't changed, gives the same thing it gives on rms, I JUST checked this cause I wasn't aware we'd done anything.

Melee can indeed, use phreeoni, but with a paladin, their skills are lacking in versatility, weapon element doesn't go through shield chain or boomerang, and the only other option they have for elemental skills is via holy cross, and they can switch weapons, sure, but I somehow doubt many players ever care to have multiple single or double phreeoni weapons (since if you have a mildly decent amount of flee, one phreeoni and 0 dex doesn't mean crap).

Like Dandin said, magic users are glass cannons, they have their use in woe, just like paladins (if you notice in woe, paladins, who are one of the few classes who can do IC without dex, are set as devo whores, and not much else, since devo build trashes your ability to get many other skills beyond devo).  But you put a wizard in woe, who has IC, and maxed int/vit, anyone not wearing gtb is gonna get trashed, AND that wizard will be able to survive things most other wizards can't, at least not without that other wizard sacrificing stats.

You're not really giving much of an argument, you're just saying you should get it because you have the items is what it sounds like.
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