Making Champ for Leech

[Papercut the Madhatter]

Would this be a good idea?
Or is there any easier class?

[G-Star]

Champ is good but i think these
Days SGs are more useful like in odin

[Johnsu]

For base experience, yes. Otherwise, Champs.

[Papercut the Madhatter]

Champ is good but i think these
Days SGs are more useful like in odin

That's what I was thinking, too.
But, I hear you need a SQI to power both. D:

For base experience, yes. Otherwise, Champs.

Then Champs for JobExp.

[G-Star]

Well if you can afford a leech geared champ you can also try thor with agi mode easily. And you can do lhz3 but peoples ask much for odin because it is better but you can't do this on a champ so i would say SG and SG gears are not that expensive as champ gear but well think about it

[Waylander]

Champ is good but i think these
Days SGs are more useful like in odin

That's what I was thinking, too.
But, I hear you need a SQI to power both. D:

For base experience, yes. Otherwise, Champs.

Then Champs for JobExp.

SG's don't need sqi to be good o.O Not even sure if their sqi is out yet anyway
I tried odin with my sg and did pretty well.

[Papercut the Madhatter]

Champ is good but i think these
Days SGs are more useful like in odin

That's what I was thinking, too.
But, I hear you need a SQI to power both. D:

For base experience, yes. Otherwise, Champs.

Then Champs for JobExp.

SG's don't need sqi to be good o.O Not even sure if their sqi is out yet anyway
I tried odin with my sg and did pretty well.

I know,I know.
I don't know what I was thinking.

[Eruruw]

SG is pretty easy, once you get the book most of the other gear they need is borrowed from other classes.

The only SG specific gears you need are a book and an ESL mid (for Odins).

[Walts]

Actually SGs win in base and job exp @_@

DG monsters are easy to mob, plus some give slighty more job exp than LH3.

[balam]

you need 2 people to do DG leeches efficiently tho, that means split the money and more expensive (covers the drac fee for lhz3 tho)

So I guess for job might be faster but more expensive, which makes both leeches the same

[G-Star]

And no,SG sqi isn't out yet

[SanRath]

Star Gladiators are the better leechers regardless of price.  You can solo and get a great amount of experience versus a silly Champion who will pretty much complain about lag and mobs in LH3.  If you want to be awesome and wipe out the whole map several times before the end of the leech then yes, having a Happy High Priest friend can help.
Also you don't have to worry about wasting 90~180m on Dracs, though Dracula is a novelty to have if you have everything else you want.

The sqi Madhatter was most likely thinking of for Star Gladiators wasn't the SG SQI, but Megingjards.

[Papercut the Madhatter]

Star Gladiators are the better leechers regardless of price.  You can solo and get a great amount of experience versus a silly Champion who will pretty much complain about lag and mobs in LH3.  If you want to be awesome and wipe out the whole map several times before the end of the leech then yes, having a Happy High Priest friend can help.
Also you don't have to worry about wasting 90~180m on Dracs, though Dracula is a novelty to have if you have everything else you want.

The sqi Madhatter was most likely thinking of for Star Gladiators wasn't the SG SQI, but Megingjards.

Thanks for defending me, but I was actually talking about the SG SQI, forgetting that they don't use one, but instead a book with Dracs. XD

[Waylander]

Star Gladiators are the better leechers regardless of price.  You can solo and get a great amount of experience versus a silly Champion who will pretty much complain about lag and mobs in LH3.  If you want to be awesome and wipe out the whole map several times before the end of the leech then yes, having a Happy High Priest friend can help.
Also you don't have to worry about wasting 90~180m on Dracs, though Dracula is a novelty to have if you have everything else you want.

The sqi Madhatter was most likely thinking of for Star Gladiators wasn't the SG SQI, but Megingjards.

Thanks for defending me, but I was actually talking about the SG SQI, forgetting that they don't use one, but instead a book with Dracs. XD

Their SQI is a footgear anyways o_O

[dailydaily]

i suggest to go for SG.
I leveled up in thors, effectively with mediocre gears.
only good gear was DPT book.

just asumptio urself, and have lot of vits, u will survive kasa's attack !
i kill like 4 or 5 and then die. pretty much dead without asumptio
but still, exp is worth is. 250k base exp and 170k job exp
kill two kasas, and u reach almost same exp as lh3

for odins, its even more easier. U can survive a lot with ESL. just avoid brown skeggs, if u r so scared

my initial gears

+5 magni cap / erudite ribbon - for 80sp more
+5 odins blessing pasana - thor / Adventerous suit with angeling armor - odins ( i bought at cheap price, so no complaints )
+7 stone buckler of royal guard
+7 devi muff
+7 eddga shoes - just for 8% more hp. U can also go for sleips[0] or DL sleips for more HP and SP
Hell poodle ring + SR ring ( but with kaahi, u dont need these. Just have any luck increasing gears or dex gears)
+10 DPT book


with upgrades, i have these new
+5 mask of ifrit kaho
+10 DPA book ( abyssmal knight)
pretty much enuf
i also have a morrigane belt + crit ring, for more crit .. just in case it affects heat


u just need patience in killing stuff initially. Once u get Miracle mode, ur damage goes twice and u make 1k+ damage without even a celeb / meg
with meg and celeb u shud be making 1.5k+ to 2k+
pretty much sums up a lot

Champs are awesome in Solo, MvP, WoE, PvP. So, in case u need a all purpose character, make a champ. Ur investment pretty much starts at 300mil+ and takes way lot more time to gain that much back

SG's are cheap, effective and faster !


Regarding DG, U can also Solo in DG with GTB i guess. But i dont know how kaahi works along with GTB. Other than that, its likely possible u will get a rare every hour . That is like atleast 6mil+ for cursed hand/diab ring and 15mil+ for ventaus/diab mant