Soul Bound SQIs

[exDragon]

This question is more dirrected to staff or those that know what they are thinking.  I know the original reason for why items were made soul bound but since that did not work why exactly do the continue to be soul bound?

[Zidane]

What do you mean "did not work"?  What do you think was the original reason, then?

[exDragon]

The orginal reason was so that they could not be sold.  Once you made a SQI, you were stuck with it and it could not be sold to anyone.  This was to turn a one time zeny sink of making a SQI into a continuous zeny sink. When not soul bound, it was a one time zeny sink since you only needed so many SQIs in a economy to satisfy those that have money for a SQI (though there are a few made from scratch because of those that later want an overuped SQI or for those that want one cheaper then market price, just not nearly as many).  When it was made soul bound the plan was since no one could sell their old SQI when they got tired with the class, there would not be SQIs lingering around in the economy for new people interested in the class to buy.  Thus a SQI would get made for everyone that ever got interested in that class and had the money for one.  However account selling caused this to not work out.

Back to my original question, since it did not work out, why is it still done?

[Zidane]

But it did work work out.  Account selling doesn't neccessarily cause it to fail because money is being interchanged hands and it ends up being "sunk" when a player buys Ads and the Ads get used to transfer the character / change name / roll back / etc.

I sure don't see it failing, not at all, not 1 bit.



Edit: Sure, it's not removing 100's of millions each day, but do you have an idea about how many support tickets we get a day for Rollbacks (from Slingers), name changes and character move from 1 account to another?  I'm not sure if I'm at liberty to say the exact number, but trust me, the original intent is still working.

[Kane]

Can it be changed soul-bound to account-bound?

Why?
Because I have a slinger with VO and thinking to make a Super Novice and won't rollback my slinger(wanna use both slinger & SN)
or won't make 2 VO(never).

[exDragon]

But it did work work out.  Account selling doesn't neccessarily cause it to fail because money is being interchanged hands and it ends up being "sunk" when a player buys Ads and the Ads get used to transfer the character / change name / roll back / etc.

I sure don't see it failing, not at all, not 1 bit.



Edit: Sure, it's not removing 100's of millions each day, but do you have an idea about how many support tickets we get a day for Rollbacks (from Slingers), name changes and character move from 1 account to another?  I'm not sure if I'm at liberty to say the exact number, but trust me, the original intent is still working.

Wasn't the actual intent to make a zeny sink?  All that does is cause an ad sink not a zeny sink.  Meaning even if you get a lot of tickets which soaking up ads to transfer gunslinger accounts, it is not pulling any zeny at all out of the economy.  All it is doing is pulling ads out of the economy?  So did you mean to even create a zeny sink at all?  Also, why exactly did you feel the need to charge someone ads to sell their SQI when it wasn't done with any of the other SQIs?

[Valash_Vrayr]

Meh, I'm fine with account bound. Doesn't bother me one bit. Soul Bound can blow me though. <,<

[dailydaily]

well, the answer is simple. the SQI in its form itself causes ZENY SINK in first place !!

so, there is no reason to remove it from soul bound ... *Though i am against soul bound items*

suppose i make the SQI soulbound on my character, i wont sell it unless i have one more spare !!

Example: A WS knows how to make money with a MJOL.. he wont sell the mjol unless he can be sure he got other options to make money / level !

similar way, i wont sell a VO, without getting something more back in return ... *ZENY SINK* again for the buyer ofcourse !

[Forsaken]

well, the answer is simple. the SQI in its form itself causes ZENY SINK in first place !!

so, there is no reason to remove it from soul bound ... *Though i am against soul bound items*

suppose i make the SQI soulbound on my character, i wont sell it unless i have one more spare !!

Example: A WS knows how to make money with a MJOL.. he wont sell the mjol unless he can be sure he got other options to make money / level !

similar way, i wont sell a VO, without getting something more back in return ... *ZENY SINK* again for the buyer ofcourse !

What is this I don't even

But it did work work out.  Account selling doesn't neccessarily cause it to fail because money is being interchanged hands and it ends up being "sunk" when a player buys Ads and the Ads get used to transfer the character / change name / roll back / etc.

I sure don't see it failing, not at all, not 1 bit.



Edit: Sure, it's not removing 100's of millions each day, but do you have an idea about how many support tickets we get a day for Rollbacks (from Slingers), name changes and character move from 1 account to another?  I'm not sure if I'm at liberty to say the exact number, but trust me, the original intent is still working.

The zeny still exists. This is just a piss-poor way to either: Get players to donate, or get players to buy ads from other players. Either way, zeny isn't being removed from the economy. 

[exDragon]

But it did work work out.  Account selling doesn't neccessarily cause it to fail because money is being interchanged hands and it ends up being "sunk" when a player buys Ads and the Ads get used to transfer the character / change name / roll back / etc.

I sure don't see it failing, not at all, not 1 bit.



Edit: Sure, it's not removing 100's of millions each day, but do you have an idea about how many support tickets we get a day for Rollbacks (from Slingers), name changes and character move from 1 account to another?  I'm not sure if I'm at liberty to say the exact number, but trust me, the original intent is still working.

Wasn't the actual intent to make a zeny sink?  All that does is cause an ad sink not a zeny sink.  Meaning even if you get a lot of tickets which soaking up ads to transfer gunslinger accounts, it is not pulling any zeny at all out of the economy.  All it is doing is pulling ads out of the economy?  So did you mean to even create a zeny sink at all?  Also, why exactly did you feel the need to charge someone ads to sell their SQI when it wasn't done with any of the other SQIs?

so?

[dailydaily]

well, the answer is simple. the SQI in its form itself causes ZENY SINK in first place !!

so, there is no reason to remove it from soul bound ... *Though i am against soul bound items*

suppose i make the SQI soulbound on my character, i wont sell it unless i have one more spare !!

Example: A WS knows how to make money with a MJOL.. he wont sell the mjol unless he can be sure he got other options to make money / level !

similar way, i wont sell a VO, without getting something more back in return ... *ZENY SINK* again for the buyer ofcourse !

i cant understand even what i wrote myself !!
sorry .. lol

[exDragon]

?

[dailydaily]

if u had a non-soul bound SQI, like mjol, u can use it on any BS / WS u got and level them to 99 !!
make another SQI, using the Mjol on a BS or etc !!

i see whoever goes to SQI arena, almost have an SQI with them.
making Soul bound, eliminates that option !!

u may have to level up hard *leeched* and use skills perhaps to defeat the mvp's !
so, better game play .. and zeny sink !

Zeny sink, because u cannot use the VO on other Gunner to level up / do SQI arena !
pretty much its like use and throw !

u cannot use on other gunner to make it to 99 too 

[exDragon]

if u had a non-soul bound SQI, like mjol, u can use it on any BS / WS u got and level them to 99 !!
make another SQI, using the Mjol on a BS or etc !!

That is not even a problem.  With soul bound SQIs, you don't even have to make a second GS in the first place so why does it matter if a BS uses a mjol to get a second BS to 99.

i see whoever goes to SQI arena, almost have an SQI with them.
making Soul bound, eliminates that option !!

Why does that even matter?  Most classes can do it and it is not even a problem so why change now?

u may have to level up hard *leeched*

Why is taking some time longer to reach 99 even a reason?

and use skills perhaps to defeat the mvp's !
so, better game play .. and zeny sink !

MVPs being harder has nothing to do with soul bound or non soul bound.

Zeny sink, because u cannot use the VO on other Gunner to level up / do SQI arena !
pretty much its like use and throw !

Doesn't matter since you don't need to make another GS to make another SQI.

u cannot use on other gunner to make it to 99 too  

Why does that even matter?  You can make as many as you want with just one GS.







If anyone knows the actual reason I would like to know.

[Valash_Vrayr]

Dude, seriously.. give it a rest already. You've been bringing up this issue for months, and it's just one of those things where .. it is what it is.

Besides, to my knowledge they seem pretty ok with idea of just making them account bound. Which isn't even remotely as terrible. Get over it.