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The 'Other' Section => AnesisRO Archive => Archive => General Questions => Topic started by: Haruwa on June 20, 2009, 08:34:20 pm
Title: Item Shop Discount Dies When?
Post by: Haruwa on June 20, 2009, 08:34:20 pm
Yeah what's the ETA for that to go away so the market goes back to normal I mean it's been 6 months I think it should be gone by now or at least take out the this is a discount part since it's more like the "normal shop price" at half a year of it.
A nice x2 exp week would be better than eternal item shop discount....
Title: Re: Item Shop Discount Dies When?
Post by: Roon on June 20, 2009, 08:45:48 pm
hey now, with the price hike in game I personally think the discount should stay where it is x___x The market would suck without the discount.
Title: Re: Item Shop Discount Dies When?
Post by: SwiftStrike on June 20, 2009, 09:04:04 pm
i think the ad prices would slowly revert if the discount was taken..but the market's pretty crazy right now
Title: Re: Item Shop Discount Dies When?
Post by: Haruwa on June 20, 2009, 09:13:04 pm
What bunny said they at least need to kill the christmas boxes at this rate those will stay till next christmas.
Title: Re: Item Shop Discount Dies When?
Post by: DJ Soul on June 20, 2009, 11:17:56 pm
If they take away the discounts, alot less ppl would donate and dumb ppl will raise the price of there items they selling.
Title: Re: Item Shop Discount Dies When?
Post by: Yoshi on June 21, 2009, 12:45:48 am
i think the ad prices would slowly revert if the discount was taken..but the market's pretty crazy right now
Maybe if the amount of people donating stay strong and the amount ads needed stays strong and prices are back up on item shop the Price will be demanded to go back down but this wont change anything because we will end up probably paying the same price only thing we would be solving is taking off the discount once and for all the gift boxes have to go they have been around way to long if they got implemented wayyy back december.....
A nice x2 exp week would be better than eternal item shop discount....
This would be nice for a change :P
Title: Re: Item Shop Discount Dies When?
Post by: Silver on June 21, 2009, 12:52:07 am
Lets be perfectly honest here, the only reason you want the discount to go away is so you can overprice all the shit you got from that cunt that left and be what you believe to be " richer ".
Stick it up yours hoe bag. I like the discount. So does everyone else.
Title: Re: Item Shop Discount Dies When?
Post by: Haruwa on June 21, 2009, 02:44:39 am
i think the ad prices would slowly revert if the discount was taken..but the market's pretty crazy right now
Maybe if the amount of people donating stay strong and the amount ads needed stays strong and prices are back up on item shop the Price will be demanded to go back down but this wont change anything because we will end up probably paying the same price only thing we would be solving is taking off the discount once and for all the gift boxes have to go they have been around way to long if they got implemented wayyy back december.....
A nice x2 exp week would be better than eternal item shop discount....
This would be nice for a change :P
It would actually make everything cheaper to go back to full price in item shop because the amount of money people will be willing to pay per ad would go down with it same as last year when the item shop was 25% off as soon as the discount went away all the ads went back to the 750k range just like before the discount came. In fact everything was cheaper to buy before the discount was implemented and brought up the ad price to 1m each. So it will actually save you money if the discount goes away. It happens every year.
Lets be perfectly honest here, the only reason you want the discount to go away is so you can overprice all the shit you got from that cunt that left and be what you believe to be " richer ".
Stick it up yours hoe bag. I like the discount. So does everyone else.
And no I want to be able to buy my slotted item shop only mid gear again without blowing 15m per it has nothing to do with overpricing anything as the price on stuff would actually go down. Brys ing were a lot cheaper before this and I want to make a few and no before you bish about it it's not for profit it's for my own personal use. Things like Rosary [1] are 9m or worse now when they would have only cost 7m with the ad shop the way it was before.
BTW... Post reported. ;D
Title: Re: Item Shop Discount Dies When?
Post by: Bajorgas on June 21, 2009, 02:58:40 am
No, changing the discount back would do nil; the problem isn't the prices, the problem is that their just isn't enough ads. Changing the prices back could even increase the ad prices because people would need more ads, thus taking more and more ads out of circulation. The reason people are willing to pay so high now is not because there's a discount, so that the kind of get a 10% discount on price, it's just that there's hardly any ads left. Before the influx of mad ad buying if you offered 50k-100k extra you'd get your ads instantly, but if you do it nowadays you won't get ads much faster. The ad price jump is actually more about the christmas boxes then the discount, didn't you see how many people went apeshit and just bought 100's of ads to buy the boxes?
Title: Re: Item Shop Discount Dies When?
Post by: Haruwa on June 21, 2009, 03:19:11 am
Really both need to go and the ad price ALWAYS goes back to normal when the discount goes away so that entire argument is really mute it's not ganna magically break the mold all of a sudden. Those stupid gift boxes are part of the main problem though I already suggested getting rid of them but it got ignored guess people really want a christmas in July or something. /shrug
Honestly I don't even know why either of them is still here they turned off the x2 exp event just fine so these should have been gone about the same time as that went away. Right now it's just leaving things more and more messed up the longer it is there people aren't satisfied with 1m profit per ad anymore so they want 1.2-1.5m per each defeating the whole point of the discount and then some. If it stays as is at some point our ads will probably actually be that price...
Title: Re: Item Shop Discount Dies When?
Post by: Silver on June 21, 2009, 06:02:09 am
Haruwa, all offense meant, you are fucking stupid. Please dont strut your shit here thinking you know the market. Kindly eat a humble pie, and shut the fuck up.
You're about to get schooled bitch.
Brys ingredients are expensive because people don't sell them, hence anyone who intends on making a brys has to buy certain ingredients from the item shop for 10 ads, with the discount 9. Hence why you see rosaries for 9m.
The prices would go down, but if you're expecting to get shit for cheap, think again. Lets use doppels as a standard, since they pretty much drive the market. Doppels are now 23, they'd go down to 22 without the discount. Whoop de fucking do.
The xmas boxes play no part in the current market situation.
AD prices have NEVER gone back to normal, they've steadily been going up since the start of the server. You'd know this if you weren't so ignorant.
Our ads ARE that price, if you don't like it, don't buy it. We don't have to suit your shitty needs. Either get more money, or shut the fuck up. Thats the reality of it. But hey, you wouldn't know jack shit about making money, now would you.
You got schooled punk ass.
Aslo, if you're gonna sit in game, in pront, for fucks sake, please do not bitch about the things that go on there. Its a hub, people say plz and beg for shit. You don't like it, don't go there.
You were a bit of a bitch before, now you need to leave. If no one is gonna say it, I will. Quit crying about every single fucking thing that doesn't go your way.
Lol, reporting me won't save you. I will make you stick your foot in your mouth, if its the last thing I do before I get banned.
inb4reported^_^
Title: Re: Item Shop Discount Dies When?
Post by: redhairweasel on June 21, 2009, 07:18:04 am
agreed with silver on ads price...it won't go down anymore since GM nerf'd meg. and keep the price discount forever. I read some review about the retarted kaho price of $100.
Title: Re: Item Shop Discount Dies When?
Post by: Haruwa on June 21, 2009, 07:37:14 am
Obviously since you want that ban reporting just isn't enough so I'll just tell you exactly what I think without holding anything back hope you enjoy your return read. ;)
Any class taught by you wouldn't be up to no child left behind standards and I'd fear for the nest generation if anyone would ever see fit to give you a teaching license.
Brys ingredients are expensive because people don't sell them, hence anyone who intends on making a brys has to buy certain ingredients from the item shop for 10 ads, with the discount 9. Hence why you see rosaries for 9m.
I'm perfectly aware why they are 9m tell me something the average player doesn't know. ::)
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The xmas boxes play no part in the current market situation.
Yeah right so when people were buying 200 ads at a time trying to get Kahos, Celebs,Sleipnir, and Garm Baby Eggs to sell them for 50m it had nothing to do with the christmas boxes. No one will agree with you on that point ever.
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AD prices have NEVER gone back to normal, they've steadily been going up since the start of the server. You'd know this if you weren't so ignorant.
Add prices went up from their original 300k a piece because the GM staff finally stopped all the ad frauding that was flooding the market so that's not even a valid point as the change was due to getting rid of ad scamming. Hech said scammer are the reason we still don't have many ad sponsers...
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Our ads ARE that price, if you don't like it, don't buy it. We don't have to suit your shitty needs. Either get more money, or shut the fuck up. Thats the reality of it. But hey, you wouldn't know jack shit about making money, now would you.
Great deduction guess what I don't buy them if I don't like the price such novel ideas your made of this morning. No matter how much money you do or don't have your not ganna want to buy over priced junk. That's like having 2 identical tvs for sale but one is 200 more and you buy the one that is of a higher price just because you had enough money to get it... do you even realize how stupid that sounds in practical application.
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You got schooled punk ass.
Aslo, if you're gonna sit in game, in pront, for fucks sake, please do not bitch about the things that go on there. Its a hub, people say plz and beg for shit. You don't like it, don't go there.
You were a bit of a bitch before, now you need to leave. If no one is gonna say it, I will. Quit crying about every single fucking thing that doesn't go your way.
Lol, reporting me won't save you. I will make you stick your foot in your mouth, if its the last thing I do before I get banned.
inb4reported^_^
Right you said absolutely nothing of use and neither I nor anyone else aside from a fresh nublet (though I have my doubts about even that) would have learned anything from that mountain of hot air and utter garbage congrats on your nonexistent win you re-pen feel any bigger yet?
And when pray tell have I been bitching about Prontera I haven't made a rant in a long while... Or did you happen to be one of the little fake beggar noobs an I shooed away and I hurt your little feelings. :'( Poor thing your a little confused aren't you... If anyone acts like a bitch around here it's the one you see in the mirror every day... if you can even stand to look at one that is. I don't need to go anywhere nor do I intend to no one else says it because you happen to be the only moron around to think it. And it's not crying about it I don't QQ and bah over it it's called just wait it out till it goes back to the proper price and then buy what you want it's as simple as that unlike a certain useless sheep I can go a while without instant gratification and wait for things patience keeps me from wasting an extra 30m I don't have to. If anything all I see is a you crying like a little bish because making the ad prices go down will ruin your chances of selling all your overpriced crap and god forbid anyone or anything come between you and your "humble" worship of the almighty dollar.
I'm afraid you will also have to keep your unhygienic practices to yourself as if I will never obey the words of some worthless gutter snape who is barely worth a passing glance... no no I'm being to generous again... your not even worth that passing glace as such shoot off at the mouth as much as you please I'm used to ignoring annoying dirty little mutts that don't' know when it's time to stop yipping before they get a swift kick. Your beneath my notice or concern get back to the to the dank trashy corner you crawled from as your the one who isn't wanted here.
agreed with silver on ads price...it won't go down anymore since GM nerf'd meg. and keep the price discount forever. I read some review about the retarted kaho price of $100.
If the discount it permanent it's no longer a discount but whatever...
Title: Re: Item Shop Discount Dies When?
Post by: redhairweasel on June 21, 2009, 07:58:40 am
Quote from: haruwa
Quote from: silver
The xmas boxes play no part in the current market situation.
Yeah right so when people were buying 200 ads at a time trying to get Kahos, Celebs,Sleipnir, and Garm Baby Eggs to sell them for 50m it had nothing to do with the christmas boxes. No one will agree with you on that point ever.
once again agreed with him...MOST people buy 200 ads at a time is trying to make a profit from brys or replacing their fuckin' meg thanks to GM. I think your case only happens months ago when x-mas box released
Title: Re: Item Shop Discount Dies When?
Post by: Lucifiel on June 21, 2009, 08:03:45 am
I'm glad you're all contributing to the thread, but keep in mind that this isn't OT/Ranters. Friendly questions and discussions are encouraged here, so please keep insults to a minimum. Thanks.
Title: Re: Item Shop Discount Dies When?
Post by: Haruwa on June 21, 2009, 08:07:10 am
The xmas boxes play no part in the current market situation.
Yeah right so when people were buying 200 ads at a time trying to get Kahos, Celebs,Sleipnir, and Garm Baby Eggs to sell them for 50m it had nothing to do with the christmas boxes. No one will agree with you on that point ever.
once again agreed with him...MOST people buy 200 ads at a time is trying to make a profit from brys or replacing their fuckin' meg thanks to GM. I think your case only happens months ago when x-mas box released
Mostly not them at present I'll give you that but they are on the list of things that are not helping. Right now it' would be the discount that's the main reason though the boxes were the original reason. I take it no one likes that ashura nerf? =p
Title: Re: Item Shop Discount Dies When?
Post by: jadestar on June 21, 2009, 08:12:46 am
One word: Greedy! even before the discount, ppl are overpricing some gears/cards. a dopple card used to be 15M, and now 23M+. that is called greedy! People always want more for less, and never satisfied.
Title: Re: Item Shop Discount Dies When?
Post by: redhairweasel on June 21, 2009, 08:18:22 am
The xmas boxes play no part in the current market situation.
Yeah right so when people were buying 200 ads at a time trying to get Kahos, Celebs,Sleipnir, and Garm Baby Eggs to sell them for 50m it had nothing to do with the christmas boxes. No one will agree with you on that point ever.
once again agreed with him...MOST people buy 200 ads at a time is trying to make a profit from brys or replacing their fuckin' meg thanks to GM. I think your case only happens months ago when x-mas box released
Mostly not them at present I'll give you that but they are on the list of things that are not helping. Right now it' would be the discount that's the main reason though the boxes were the original reason. I take it no one likes that ashura nerf? =p
Who knows why GM give discount and who knows why meg is nerf'd... MAYBE GM wanted to give a permanent new discount by giving discount probably because they were heavily critisied by other server or they knew back then by nerfing meg will make more people to donate to replace their meg like today. You know what...I bet even if x-mas box are taken out from the item shop...people are still buying ads at bundle just for briss sake
One word: Greedy! even before the discount, ppl are overpricing some gears/cards. a dopple card used to be 15M, and now 23M+. that is called greedy! People always want more for less, and never satisfied.
nah...that don't explain much i'd say it's due to people leaving the server and less new people/donator coming in so less gear are vending atm making the price rise unlike before...which you have to compete with mooore people to sell your stuff
Title: Re: Item Shop Discount Dies When?
Post by: jadestar on June 21, 2009, 08:25:34 am
Only the GMs know the reasons... since they are the ones who made the discounts! Perhaps a GM can explain it to us here! until then, we have no choice but keep doing what we do....
Title: Re: Item Shop Discount Dies When?
Post by: Silver on June 21, 2009, 09:44:49 am
Considering Lucifels request, I shall take this to ranters.
The discount is actually a good thing. I say we keep out mouths shut, and leave it be.
Title: Re: Item Shop Discount Dies When?
Post by: Roon on June 21, 2009, 09:53:09 am
in regards to the xmas boxes, they're about the same thing as OPBs or OBBs, which have always been obtainable via the item shop. xmas boxes are good for the server, because people have to donate for them, and they have a chance of getting something good; as they do with an OCA or whatever. They server a purpose beyond being "christmas" only, so yes, I'd still like to see them in July.
Title: Re: Item Shop Discount Dies When?
Post by: Yoshi on June 21, 2009, 02:46:59 pm
Considering Lucifels request, I shall take this to ranters.
The discount is actually a good thing. I say we keep out mouths shut, and leave it be.
I agree with silver though that this wont change a thing people will still keep the price of what they sell now the same the only way to effect the economy right now is to weed out every player over charging things DO NOT buy things from the over priced items and let things freeze out watch venders get impatient and lower the price of the items they sell also First to start out with B>ADS S>ADS people are abusing this I know a few people i wont point out who are buying ads for 1mil and selling it at 1.3mil making a huge profit on this to be honest it would be nice if you could only buy ads from a player another way where the ad price can be controlled but wait no one will suggest that or agree with that etc Over 1mil on ads is just one way to word Outrageously Out of control.
On a side note haruwa if you guys read this thread im about to link a few gms gave there input about the ads and prices of items to this player http://www.anthemro.com/forums/index.php/topic,64716.0.html
that link will answer all your questions ;)
Title: Re: Item Shop Discount Dies When?
Post by: SwiftStrike on June 21, 2009, 02:53:46 pm
well, if the discount is "permanent", they should stop calling it a christmas discount lol.
Title: Re: Item Shop Discount Dies When?
Post by: Waylander on June 21, 2009, 03:50:07 pm
I want kaho to be 75mil again :P
Title: Re: Item Shop Discount Dies When?
Post by: jadestar on June 21, 2009, 04:05:02 pm
the high prices will hurt new players the most! once they get frustrated, they will stop playing here.... a new player can never afford a kaho that costs 85M....it will take eons of niffing to earn that much!! that is..if he/she has dbss mace and other gears!! It took me a year to get my first kaho horns! and I got it for 65M
Title: Re: Item Shop Discount Dies When?
Post by: Haruwa on June 21, 2009, 05:40:37 pm
Bah that didn't to much to answer me other than make me think I'm more right than ever that it needs to go for the economys sake but needs to stay for the purpose of providing the money that helps keep our site going. Guess I'd still rather play Anthem so I'll give up and let the sheep run their course.if they run the prices of everything into the ground I just will never buy anything again and it won't affect me so much other than making me spend even more time farming.
Title: Re: Item Shop Discount Dies When?
Post by: Yoshi on June 21, 2009, 05:42:42 pm
Prices of items in game, and the price of ads, are all player regulated. Prices of ads rise and fall due to whatever the other players are willing to actually pay for them. There is no "real" value of an ad. Ads have been as cheap as 300k before, and they have been as high as they are now, and maybe even higher, and anything and everything in between.
Ad value here is like stocks in real life; they go up and down based on innumerable factors, and while you can make guesses/predictions about how certain changes will affect their value, there are too many factors involved to ever really know for sure what will happen.
There are no simple solutions in regards to getting the economy to a point where most everyone can be happy with it. It's simply far too complex of a beast.
6 pages of this one player trying to get the wrong idea out Like said before Ad prices/Discount item shop/Gift boxes Items in game Are all controlled by the players not the GM's.This was initially to help the players but the "Players" regulated the prices to fix and control no discounts to anyone hence making the prices go up
People only charge what others are willing to pay. Holding onto your own merchandise will actually contribute to prices staying high since you are effectively contributing to a lower supply of the product. Also, for things to drop, somebody has to be the first person to start lowering prices.
Prices either drop due to customers boycotting higher prices until sellers are forced to lower, or they drop due to one or more sellers coming along and aggressively and actively undercutting the competition.
As far as GM's providing price information... that's just a bad idea. That kind of thing will kill a market. The market works because players are in control of it. They determine the prices they are willing to buy/sell things at. That's the way it should be.
Again said but whats not understood is that theres pirates out there taking those items and only selling it higher making the other players think thats the price for that item and raise the price of there item up as well only a competition of a small amount of players in a server going higher and higher.
Title: Re: Item Shop Discount Dies When?
Post by: Haruwa on June 21, 2009, 06:14:08 pm
I'll add the reply here I was going to before I checked that threads date...
Undercutting the opposition isn't even an option unless you never vend but actively sell. Tried that option for a bit and all that happens is the opposition buys your cheaper items before anyone else and marks them up just the same. Selling for less helps nothing other than giving resellers more profit and thus more money for a repeat performance...
I was selling mvp card on alts 2m below everyone elses price even did so with some sqi items and you know what happened the shop would be up for an hour tops and everything would be marked up to be resold heck mymerch bought the marked down DL sleipnir I had up and put it in his shop 5 seconds later and I don't remember who else I gave in to and sold stuff to for less. All in all it's a meaningless effort I can't put stock in anymore if all it does is pool all items with the people who overcharge the most. The final straw that made me stop was when I'd give people a 5m discount because it was "all the money they had and they really wanted and need one and could not afford anymore" so I caved sold it then logged out and came back on an alt since I usually sell if I'm not leveling and on my way to prison guess what I saw. That item marked up to market price and it sold again right in from of me and put 8m profit in their pocket. You know the saddest part is I see this more often for richer players and vets abusing alts than anyone else. I sell to person A and all of a sudden a know overpricer appears with my item in their shop most recent example being my red glasses of gemstone a certain someone marked up 6m....
I was told I bitch to much (and aparenlty I still do even though stopped saying anything at all ::)) so I stopped complaining but since I can't even vent I gave up and trying to be the one who undercuts and now I'm being treated like some money grubbing bish because of that. There is no way to win so whats the point in being better than the situation individually when it's a damned if you do damned if you don't scenario. At the very least I'd rather be insulted just the same and keep my profit for me than let someone else talk bad about me AND profit off my kindness only to have said people who do that turn a profit and have even more bank behind them so they can do it on a wider scale. We really need a better money since that doesn't target the average player too as the people who should be using them aren't. Yeah I have a lot of stuff pack rated I'll admit that to be fair but I don't resell what I buy under normal circumstances I believe in not buying what you have no intention to keep if you can help it. There is nothing wrong with buying something cheap and then finding something better than and selling the doubled up stock but there is something wrong with stocking up on things just for the sake of selling them...
A nice saying that starts with fool me once comes to mind... Bah I dun care anymore it's obviously purely a wasted effort I'm done Haru out enjoy your day all.
Title: Re: Item Shop Discount Dies When?
Post by: Yoshi on June 21, 2009, 06:41:46 pm
I'll add the reply here I was going to before I checked that threads date...
Undercutting the opposition isn't even an option unless you never vend but actively sell. Tried that option for a bit and all that happens is the opposition buys your cheaper items before anyone else and marks them up just the same. Selling for less helps nothing other than giving resellers more profit and thus more money for a repeat performance...
I was selling mvp card on alts 2m below everyone elses price even did so with some sqi items and you know what happened the shop would be up for an hour tops and everything would be marked up to be resold heck mymerch bought the marked down DL sleipnir I had up and put it in his shop 5 seconds later and I don't remember who else I gave in to and sold stuff to for less. All in all it's a meaningless effort I can't put stock in anymore if all it does is pool all items with the people who overcharge the most. The final straw that made me stop was when I'd give people a 5m discount because it was "all the money they had and they really wanted and need one and could not afford anymore" so I caved sold it then logged out and came back on an alt since I usually sell if I'm not leveling and on my way to prison guess what I saw. That item marked up to market price and it sold again right in from of me and put 8m profit in their pocket. You know the saddest part is I see this more often for richer players and vets abusing alts than anyone else. I sell to person A and all of a sudden a know overpricer appears with my item in their shop most recent example being my red glasses of gemstone a certain someone marked up 6m....
I was told I bitch to much (and aparenlty I still do even though stopped saying anything at all ::)) so I stopped complaining but since I can't even vent I gave up and trying to be the one who undercuts and now I'm being treated like some money grubbing bish because of that. There is no way to win so whats the point in being better than the situation individually when it's a damned if you do damned if you don't scenario. At the very least I'd rather be insulted just the same and keep my profit for me than let someone else talk bad about me AND profit off my kindness only to have said people who do that turn a profit and have even more bank behind them so they can do it on a wider scale. We really need a better money since that doesn't target the average player too as the people who should be using them aren't. Yeah I have a lot of stuff pack rated I'll admit that to be fair but I don't resell what I buy under normal circumstances I believe in not buying what you have no intention to keep if you can help it. There is nothing wrong with buying something cheap and then finding something better than and selling the doubled up stock but there is something wrong with stocking up on things just for the sake of selling them...
A nice saying that starts with fool me once comes to mind... Bah I dun care anymore it's obviously purely a wasted effort I'm done Haru out enjoy your day all.
Your intentions are all good but its not you who is at fault is the assholes who buy and resell to make money.Those players probably dont remember the last time they farmed and item or card :laugh:
i do agree that item shop discount and Gift box should be removed and they should put something new but things will never regulate when theres players buying and reselling ads weed out that problem first then maybe you can get rid of these two add ons
Title: Re: Item Shop Discount Dies When?
Post by: DJ Soul on June 21, 2009, 09:18:52 pm
They have the discount up because the server isn't getting enough donations to run the server. I don't think they'll take it down anytime soon since our population is slowly dropping everyday. Less people playing = less people donating.
Title: Re: Item Shop Discount Dies When?
Post by: Roon on June 21, 2009, 09:31:55 pm
They have the discount up because the server isn't getting enough donations to run the server. I don't think they'll take it down anytime soon since our population is slowly dropping everyday. Less people playing = less people donating.
our population isn't dropping. From what I can see, it's rising >_>
Title: Re: Item Shop Discount Dies When?
Post by: Hard Weapon on June 21, 2009, 09:43:17 pm
They have the discount up because the server isn't getting enough donations to run the server. I don't think they'll take it down anytime soon since our population is slowly dropping everyday. Less people playing = less people donating.
our population isn't dropping. From what I can see, it's rising >_>
Don't count the vendors and dual clienters. I have seen a few more people come back, so I hope deep down that your statement is 100% true, because, maybe I'm selfish for wanting this, but we need more people to get on Anthem.
On Topic:
It is my opinion that the Discount was left by Talis as a gift to us, maybe as his way of saying "Hey Anthem, here is your "Stimulus" package! Cheaper items from the website!"
The Christmas boxes in my opinion - which is probably wrong (lol) - is a way for you Gamblers to risk it and maybe win some mega bucks. After all, the Valk / Celeb drops were greatly increased, as the GMs said. Also, maybe it's just meant to be an upgrade to the OVB, kind of like OVB is an upgrade to the OBB and the OBB is an upgrade to the Gift Box? I don't know which Hypothesis is correct, but those are mine.
Either way, the word Discount needs to be removed, and the GMs should carefully plan out new prices for various items. Switching certain cards around - Ie: Phree, Berze, Moonlight & Mysteltainn from Greater MVP to Lesser/Mini MVP (due to the value of the card not being up to par with greater MVPs), and moving UP some Lesser / Mini MVP cards, such as Baphomet, Eddga and Drake. Since we can't suggest on the Ad System, I can't go to suggestions and put a thread there about it.
The donations we have are MOSTLY the same as it was in Anima, and quite frankly, things have GREATLY changed since the days of Anima, hence I mention the changes.
Title: Re: Item Shop Discount Dies When?
Post by: Roon on June 21, 2009, 09:51:01 pm
They have the discount up because the server isn't getting enough donations to run the server. I don't think they'll take it down anytime soon since our population is slowly dropping everyday. Less people playing = less people donating.
our population isn't dropping. From what I can see, it's rising >_>
Don't count the vendors and dual clienters. I have seen a few more people come back, so I hope deep down that your statement is 100% true, because, maybe I'm selfish for wanting this, but we need more people to get on Anthem.
I base my statement on the rise in people lounging around pront and other cities, the number of people in PVP, and in noob maps. Where it was once ghostly empty now it seems alive and well - and it seems like a gradual movement into this over a period of about a year. I could've just logged on at opportune moments, but hopefully it's because the population has seen a rise.
Title: Re: Item Shop Discount Dies When?
Post by: Yoshi on June 21, 2009, 09:59:32 pm
They have the discount up because the server isn't getting enough donations to run the server. I don't think they'll take it down anytime soon since our population is slowly dropping everyday. Less people playing = less people donating.
our population isn't dropping. From what I can see, it's rising >_>
On Topic:
It is my opinion that the Discount was left by Talis as a gift to us, maybe as his way of saying "Hey Anthem, here is your "Stimulus" package! Cheaper items from the website!"
The Christmas boxes in my opinion - which is probably wrong (lol) - is a way for you Gamblers to risk it and maybe win some mega bucks. After all, the Valk / Celeb drops were greatly increased, as the GMs said. Also, maybe it's just meant to be an upgrade to the OVB, kind of like OVB is an upgrade to the OBB and the OBB is an upgrade to the Gift Box? I don't know which Hypothesis is correct, but those are mine.
Either way, the word Discount needs to be removed, and the GMs should carefully plan out new prices for various items. Switching certain cards around - Ie: Phree, Berze, Moonlight & Mysteltainn from Greater MVP to Lesser/Mini MVP (due to the value of the card not being up to par with greater MVPs), and moving UP some Lesser / Mini MVP cards, such as Baphomet, Eddga and Drake. Since we can't suggest on the Ad System, I can't go to suggestions and put a thread there about it.
The donations we have are MOSTLY the same as it was in Anima, and quite frankly, things have GREATLY changed since the days of Anima, hence I mention the changes.
I do think a change in the item shop would help with the prices for the players thats the only way things will be changed because if we keep getting X amount of Ads into the game being sold by X amount of People the price will always be the same but if we do change the prices of the Items We could get an ease but the only scare would be lets say drop Doppl for example to 20 ads only no discount 20 ads x1mil per ad that will bring back the doppels to a good price and if ads dropped to 900k the price would be back to normal but the only bad side to this would be if people began to sell the Ads at a higher price the only way to fix that would be if your smart dont buy the ad for anymore than 1mil and just wait they will turn in sooner or later if no one will buy there ad :laugh:
I base my statement on the rise in people lounging around pront and other cities, the number of people in PVP, and in noob maps. Where it was once ghostly empty now it seems alive and well - and it seems like a gradual movement into this over a period of about a year. I could've just logged on at opportune moments, but hopefully it's because the population has seen a rise.
I do agree with you that the amount of players do seem to keep getting higher Payon dung for instance had no one roaming and now i see more and more appearing in such little time and the times i go into pvp i see 15-20+ players I am glad to see this change and by the appearance this saturday of a few fellow Guilds i say that things just might have a good turn of event also on a side note the Summer is kicking in and people are coming back to there anthem and starting there vacations.
Title: Re: Item Shop Discount Dies When?
Post by: Hard Weapon on June 21, 2009, 10:07:09 pm
Truth be told, the only reason Ads are the price they are now is simple Supply and Demand. Nothing else lol.
Supply and Demand at its finest, seen here in aRO.
Title: Re: Item Shop Discount Dies When?
Post by: DJ Soul on June 21, 2009, 10:09:41 pm
Out of the 500 people we have online right now, on a rough count i just did less then 2 minutes ago, 140 to 175 people are vending in pront in alberta. So its really not that many people online.
I hope the they redo the item shop and its prices so people will donate for things that are worth donating for.
Title: Re: Item Shop Discount Dies When?
Post by: Yoshi on June 22, 2009, 01:34:52 pm
I hope the they redo the item shop and its prices so people will donate for things that are worth donating for.
Yes this should be done,Noticing prices like angeling card its 20+mil on item shop when in game its 10+mil and so forth
the prices on item shop need to be changed a bit
Title: Re: Item Shop Discount Dies When?
Post by: pokmin100 on June 22, 2009, 05:44:40 pm
the prices do need to change, in my opinion, i joined years ago while we were still anima, and the prices haven't changed at all.
one of the biggest things, actually, is the cost of base items. who would pay $5 for half of that stuff anyways? there are some of those items thatr should only be a buck, and a few that should be more, a 5 dollor base means many of those items don't get bought at all, and this goes for cards, headgears, weapons, armor, ect ect.
Title: Re: Item Shop Discount Dies When?
Post by: SwiftStrike on June 22, 2009, 05:57:46 pm
its summer; people should be comin back soon after exam ends. just for the fun of it....i remember during 2x exp we had almost a woe count on daily.
Title: Re: Item Shop Discount Dies When?
Post by: Haruwa on June 22, 2009, 06:23:04 pm
They should leave x2 exp week on for 6 months and see how big our population booms then. /heh
Title: Re: Item Shop Discount Dies When?
Post by: -CMI- on June 22, 2009, 06:27:54 pm
Out of the 500 people we have online right now, on a rough count i just did less then 2 minutes ago, 140 to 175 people are vending in pront in alberta. So its really not that many people online.
i don't think people that vending even past 100..maybe around 60-100..most vendor base at pron..100+ kinda too much
Title: Re: Item Shop Discount Dies When?
Post by: Hard Weapon on June 22, 2009, 07:03:50 pm
Out of the 500 people we have online right now, on a rough count i just did less then 2 minutes ago, 140 to 175 people are vending in pront in alberta. So its really not that many people online.
i don't think people that vending even past 100..maybe around 60-100..most vendor base at pron..100+ kinda too much
Count Pront, Pay Dung, Alberta, Payon and Orc Dungeon.
I just counted 132 vendors. Give or take one or two that I may have misscounted. Out of the 132, 13 are dispersed among Alb, orc dung, pay, and pay dung.
Not to mention those that are actively dual clienting at the moment as well.
Title: Re: Item Shop Discount Dies When?
Post by: exDragon on June 22, 2009, 08:53:17 pm
I could give you a long economical explanation but I just skip to the results instead. If the discount was removed, the total price per ad would go down. However the cost of items that are only gotten through ads would go up. To what extent this will happen, I do not have sufficient information to predict that. Basically, items are cheaper with the ad discount and more expensive without it.
Title: Re: Item Shop Discount Dies When?
Post by: pokmin100 on June 22, 2009, 09:00:51 pm
hmm, well, currently, it's 15.30 for eddga's, and thats at roughly 1.1 mil an ad, thats 16 ads, and that's 17.6 million zeny, compared to when they were say, 800 thousand, 17 times 800000 is roughly 13.6 million zeny, therefore, if prices of adds come down, it affects to a much greater degree how much zeny you spend per item
Title: Re: Item Shop Discount Dies When?
Post by: Freestyle on June 22, 2009, 09:40:57 pm
It's because we don't have Free Trials or Paid Offers anymore =]
Can thank the frauders for that one.
Title: Re: Item Shop Discount Dies When?
Post by: cheekboi16 on June 22, 2009, 09:48:43 pm
i got a solution.. DONATE 1million dollars and sell it for 700k each that way ad prices will go down. Jeez look at the economy (real life). greedy people controlled the economy.
Title: Re: Item Shop Discount Dies When?
Post by: Yoshi on June 22, 2009, 11:19:57 pm
The outside economy right now is no better than this economy of the game right now in the state/city i live in we have a 12.9% un-employment rate and still rising. Like The best solution ever given was No taxes and watch Things get better but what is he doing now?hes only going to inflate and make the future of this planet suffer with Higher taxes HOOOORAY for idiots in power and HOOORAY for the idots who put these idiots in power good damn job /no1
Thank Lord WE have the messiah to save us *My sarcasm sucks* :laugh:
Title: Re: Item Shop Discount Dies When?
Post by: Haruwa on June 23, 2009, 04:02:13 am
Our government just needs to waste less money since anything government funded is paid with taxes.
Title: Re: Item Shop Discount Dies When?
Post by: newly on June 23, 2009, 05:26:39 am
Solution: nuke everyone who isn't USA. There fore there's no need to waste money on armies and military weaponry!. Yay.
Title: Re: Item Shop Discount Dies When?
Post by: Yoshi on June 23, 2009, 06:05:16 am