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Title: why do we get ban?
Post by: monay2009 on April 02, 2008, 03:02:39 pm

why gm ban our IP when someone uses it for botting?

Title: Re: why do we get ban?
Post by: Pixie~Stick on April 02, 2008, 03:03:31 pm

becuase they cheated and deserve a ban /ok

Title: Re: why do we get ban?
Post by: monay2009 on April 02, 2008, 03:20:40 pm

but why should gm's ban the im..

Title: Re: why do we get ban?
Post by: Pixie~Stick on April 02, 2008, 03:23:58 pm

because if they only ban the accounts the person will just make new ones and bot again

if they break the rules they get hardcore ban

they shouldve obeyed the rules

and if it wasnt you but someone who uses your comp

then you should be mad at them but either way you probably shouldve made sure they obey rules

lots of people have many players on one ip

i got 4 friends who play RO on my comp and i made sure they obeyed the rules

you shoulda done the same

Title: Re: why do we get ban?
Post by: @schoLary@ on April 02, 2008, 03:25:04 pm

Because then people could just make a new character and do it again. So using IP ban will prevent user from using that IP to play

As a joke: Because you touch yourself at night

Title: Re: why do we get ban?
Post by: Pixie~Stick on April 02, 2008, 03:26:58 pm

Quote from: @schoLary@ on April 02, 2008, 03:25:04 pm

Because then people could just make a new character and do it again. So using IP ban will prevent user from using that IP to play

i already said that ~_~

Quote from: @schoLary@ on April 02, 2008, 03:25:04 pm

As a joke: Because you touch yourself at night

i already did that ~_~

Title: Re: why do we get ban?
Post by: ZeroZ1988 on April 02, 2008, 03:28:56 pm

this is quite.....lame /swt

Title: Re: why do we get ban?
Post by: monay2009 on April 02, 2008, 03:30:55 pm

but how if we wer playing in a computer shop..how's our account?

we will get ban too right..i think gm should not ban the IP,and if ever the gm ban the account without doing anything how can play on this serveragain if our IP is ban?

Title: Re: why do we get ban?
Post by: Pixie~Stick on April 02, 2008, 03:33:36 pm

Quote from: monay2009 on April 02, 2008, 03:30:55 pm

but how if we wer playing in a computer shop..how's our account?

we will get ban too right..i think gm should not ban the IP,and if ever the gm ban the account without doing anything how can play on this serveragain if our IP is ban?

you cant play again

thats the point

this server doesnt want cheaters here

Title: Re: why do we get ban?
Post by: @schoLary@ on April 02, 2008, 03:36:23 pm

Yep

@Pixie: couldn't post fast enough lol

Title: Re: why do we get ban?
Post by: Pixie~Stick on April 02, 2008, 03:37:35 pm

Quote from: @schoLary@ on April 02, 2008, 03:36:23 pm

@Pixie: couldn't post fast enough lol

slowpoke is slooooow /ok

Title: Re: why do we get ban?
Post by: Denia on April 02, 2008, 03:39:13 pm

So by your logic, if someone sets up bots at a computer shop, say about 40 of them, and about 5 of you guys are "legitimate" I should bot check all 40 of those accounts, and if 3 of them are not botting, including your 5, I should not ban those 8, but ban the rest?

What if you are gaining money from the botter? What if you were gaining items from the botter? It's just as illegit as botting yourself. The rules are there, and it tells everyone what the consequences of botting are. If you were not botting, you have no one else to blame but the botter. He knew he'd get in trouble, and he knew that he put you at risk too. He just didn't care until he got caught.

Title: Re: why do we get ban?
Post by: Pixie~Stick on April 02, 2008, 03:43:39 pm

@Denia: pretty much what i meant except sounds better from a GM /heh

Title: Re: why do we get ban?
Post by: Varis on April 02, 2008, 04:35:47 pm

Another point:

The GM's can't possibly just take the word of the players related to an IP that has bots running from it that it really is coming from a shop or cafe or whatever. If they did, I promise that every botter would claim such a story to escape punishment, whether or not it's true. The GM's don't have time to investigate the truth to those claims, or they'd have an even worse backlog than they probably already do. No, it's completely impractical for them to be expected to do such a thing. The only reasonable course of action is to enforce an IP ban whenever a bot is found. If a shop or a group of players doesn't want to suffer an IP ban, they should be more careful with who they let play.

Title: Re: why do we get ban?
Post by: monay2009 on April 02, 2008, 10:11:22 pm

but how if we dont know the person botting and we're playing in the same shop?and if the gm bot checks all the account,how if all of that 41 players and 40 of them is not botting and theres one guy who was..all of the 41 players should get ban??and bout the case i guess gm should investigate all the cases of botting before they ban the accounts..or just prevent them from botting

Title: Re: why do we get ban?
Post by: Pixie~Stick on April 02, 2008, 10:13:03 pm

i think the person is lying

because if they are playing at a "shop"

then they could just go under a diff ip

Title: Re: why do we get ban?
Post by: monay2009 on April 02, 2008, 10:48:24 pm

cause my friend told me,and he was also playing on this server he register on that shop and he just knew that they are botting but his account also get ban,sorry i'm a newbie so i need to knew this..my first account also get ban because of my brother..xD,he sucks..i dont care if he read this and get mad at me..because we're in the same IP and i suffer too..

Title: Re: why do we get ban?
Post by: Pixie~Stick on April 02, 2008, 10:51:04 pm

if your telling the truth

you could always go to a diff place to play

but if you are a botter you will be caught again

and if you do dont waste anthems time

Title: Re: why do we get ban?
Post by: neonpunishment on April 03, 2008, 02:31:37 am

Quote from: monay2009 on April 02, 2008, 10:11:22 pm

but how if we dont know the person botting and we're playing in the same shop?and if the gm bot checks all the account,how if all of that 41 players and 40 of them is not botting and theres one guy who was..all of the 41 players should get ban??and bout the case i guess gm should investigate all the cases of botting before they ban the accounts..or just prevent them from botting

Bot checking 50 accounts would take awhile, find 1 bot on an IP and bam all the bots are gone.

or just prevent them from botting <--- Thats what they do -.-

Title: Re: why do we get ban?
Post by: Aronar on April 03, 2008, 09:12:51 am

why, did you?

Title: Re: why do we get ban?
Post by: Pixie~Stick on April 03, 2008, 10:45:57 am

Quote from: K_idd_12 on April 03, 2008, 09:12:51 am

why, did you?

botting

Title: Re: why do we get ban?
Post by: Greedychris on April 03, 2008, 01:55:10 pm

Is it possible to have the same IP address as someone else in a different country?

Title: Re: why do we get ban?
Post by: Pixie~Stick on April 03, 2008, 02:48:54 pm

one ip per computer

Title: Re: why do we get ban?
Post by: monay2009 on April 04, 2008, 03:10:29 am

one IP per computer?but why we have two computers and i still get ban?because of IP..and for example gm bot check those 50 and 1 of them bot,how is the 49 accounts..

Title: Re: why do we get ban?
Post by: Ressy on April 04, 2008, 03:20:11 am

Quote from: Pixie~Stick on April 03, 2008, 02:48:54 pm

one ip per computer

1 IP per internet connection I think.. otherwise internet cafe would have an IP per computer.

Definitions:

• Each computer that is connected to the Internet has a clearly identifiable, numeric address, the IP address, comprising four sequences of digits ..

• All computers across the internet are assigned a unique identifier called an IP address. They are used like street addresses so other computers can find them. An IP address could look something like this: 87.242.211.23.

• Also called an Internet address. The unique address for each computer on the Internet. The IP address appears as a set of four numbers separated by periods. The numbers indicate the domain, the network, the subnetwork and the host computer.

Third one sounds correct IMO, since two computers in one home carry the same IP from what I know of.

Title: Re: why do we get ban?
Post by: Pixie~Stick on April 04, 2008, 11:48:56 am

one per connection

yeah my bad /heh

thanks ressy XP

Title: Re: why do we get ban?
Post by: Father jack on April 04, 2008, 06:49:13 pm

Zero tolerance on bots.. enjoy your ban...too much coincidence...you blame a botting brother and now an internet cafe... you should have learned your lesson by now.

Good riddance.

Title: Re: why do we get ban?
Post by: tizzi on April 04, 2008, 07:00:10 pm

Quote from: Ressy on April 04, 2008, 03:20:11 am

Quote from: Pixie~Stick on April 03, 2008, 02:48:54 pm

one ip per computer

1 IP per internet connection I think.. otherwise internet cafe would have an IP per computer.
[...]
Third one sounds correct IMO, since two computers in one home carry the same IP from what I know of.

Well, you can use NAT, then all the computers behind the NAT router would have the same IP address to the outside world. You can have multiple IP addresses per connection, but most ISPs will only give you one. If you have more than one computer there, you'd either need a proxy, or use NAT - in both cases the computers would have the IP address of the gateway to the outside world (but would still have a different internal IP address - that cannot be seen outside the network though, due to the nature of NAT).

Title: Re: why do we get ban?
Post by: monay2009 on April 05, 2008, 01:18:34 am

but how's the 49 players that was bot checked but they didn't bot what will happen on there accounts..there one botter right?,what will happen?xD,..

well thanks for the replies