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The 'Other' Section => AnesisRO Archive => Archive => General Questions => Topic started by: pakali on September 20, 2010, 07:58:06 pm
Title: Change log: Blazer card rate adjusted
Post by: pakali on September 20, 2010, 07:58:06 pm
Is the drop rate for blazer card increased or decreased?
Title: Re: Change log: Blazer card rate adjusted
Post by: hunksurvivorx on September 20, 2010, 08:06:32 pm
decreased now blazer card suck like hell. omg i should sold them by 15m still now will worth 6m again
Title: Re: Change log: Blazer card rate adjusted
Post by: SukiChii on September 20, 2010, 08:08:07 pm
Man, getting food now will suck.
Title: Re: Change log: Blazer card rate adjusted
Post by: wootman777 on September 20, 2010, 08:08:50 pm
There goes my hope of getting Suiken in the next 5 days.....
Title: Re: Change log: Blazer card rate adjusted
Post by: hunksurvivorx on September 20, 2010, 08:11:41 pm
i just made 2m in niff with food in 30min plus niff regular loot, there goes my scam recovery fund -.-
Title: Re: Change log: Blazer card rate adjusted
Post by: SanRath on September 20, 2010, 08:12:49 pm
Pessimists Anonymous called, they want their feedback back.
Title: Re: Change log: Blazer card rate adjusted
Post by: GreaterPepe on September 20, 2010, 08:13:35 pm
Inb4 complaining bitches.
Nvm, too late. ;<
Title: Re: Change log: Blazer card rate adjusted
Post by: hunksurvivorx on September 20, 2010, 08:16:30 pm
they wont get feedback, they will get some heavy rant ;3
Title: Re: Change log: Blazer card rate adjusted
Post by: bLitzkr!eg on September 20, 2010, 08:17:53 pm
At least I made the most out of it... Cant complain much :)
should this mean that, prices will go down? I cant wait $-)
Title: Re: Change log: Blazer card rate adjusted
Post by: SukiChii on September 20, 2010, 08:18:06 pm
I'm just sad :(
Title: Re: Change log: Blazer card rate adjusted
Post by: hunksurvivorx on September 20, 2010, 08:20:47 pm
Title: Re: Change log: Blazer card rate adjusted
Post by: *-*Gato*-* on September 20, 2010, 08:39:02 pm
personaly don't think this whole update was worth it. they just mseed up more. WTH GMs and again people that pay more money for blazer are now useless. epople overpriced them cause they were worth it. and GMs never said that the rates were going to change. another hell poodle scam.
Title: Re: Change log: Blazer card rate adjusted
Post by: pakali on September 20, 2010, 08:44:42 pm
with blazer card rate decreased, the stat food price will go up.
Title: Re: Change log: Blazer card rate adjusted
Post by: Kyubey on September 20, 2010, 08:49:08 pm
personaly don't think this whole update was worth it. they just mseed up more. WTH GMs and again people that pay more money for blazer are now useless. epople overpriced them cause they were worth it. and GMs never said that the rates were going to change. another hell poodle scam.
>Implying game mechanics changes weren't going to be changed back to how it was in Aegis eventually.
Title: Re: Change log: Blazer card rate adjusted
Post by: SanRath on September 20, 2010, 09:11:13 pm
with blazer card rate decreased, the stat food price will go up.
Statfood prices are what they've always been; there's not a lot of want in that market. The people who want them either farm them themselves or brew them.
Title: Re: Change log: Blazer card rate adjusted
Post by: hunksurvivorx on September 20, 2010, 09:34:19 pm
indeed no one wants stat food, i have 2 blazers which i bought in 4m when those has broken. meh meh meh meh, now lets cry about the guards (1) extinction. made already a post asking giving back the guard(1) drops to lady tany slaves.
Title: Re: Change log: Blazer card rate adjusted
Post by: Typhoom on September 20, 2010, 10:01:21 pm
@-@ when was this update?
Title: Re: Change log: Blazer card rate adjusted
Post by: hunksurvivorx on September 20, 2010, 10:11:27 pm
25 mins ago more or less, has been already scheluded x3
Title: Re: Change log: Blazer card rate adjusted
Post by: Typhoom on September 20, 2010, 10:17:34 pm
/desp @_@ even worth using anymore......?
Title: Re: Change log: Blazer card rate adjusted
Post by: hunksurvivorx on September 20, 2010, 10:28:18 pm
ha of course, drop rate back to aegis mode, so no worries, you can farm your own food still ;3
Title: Re: Change log: Blazer card rate adjusted
Post by: Typhoom on September 20, 2010, 10:35:24 pm
i can farm them yes but if the drop rate is ridiculusly im better off getting a second hell poodle
Title: Re: Change log: Blazer card rate adjusted
Post by: Eruruw on September 20, 2010, 11:10:32 pm
Yeah, this will effectively kill a lot of alternatives to niff if it is low enough. It's too bad, really.
Title: Re: Change log: Blazer card rate adjusted
Post by: dailydaily on September 20, 2010, 11:53:40 pm
damn i just NPC'd every food i got !!
it was like 5mil + yesterday for some 5mil (total of wat i was farming for like a week or two weeks )
damn, now i gota level harder ! i went niff morning, no wonder i got less food :(
but still, i dont think this is bad !! *people do want +10 stat foods in STR and DEX*
Title: Re: Change log: Blazer card rate adjusted
Post by: hunksurvivorx on September 20, 2010, 11:55:33 pm
you didnt noticed cause the nerf was about one hour ago, now try again =0
Title: Re: Change log: Blazer card rate adjusted
Post by: Razer on September 20, 2010, 11:55:59 pm
I picked off my blazer cards at 50k back in 2007 when no one knew what it did :3
Anyhow this was log over due. But I feel this came after the Dracula abuse. They should have just fixed Dracula rather then fixing Blazer , imo. I loved using the card in poison spores :(
Title: Re: Change log: Blazer card rate adjusted
Post by: pepesmith on September 21, 2010, 01:57:42 am
im too disappointed about this changes!...T.T
Title: Re: Change log: Blazer card rate adjusted
Post by: Yun on September 21, 2010, 03:48:52 am
It's still useful..for me at least. I still get alot of stat foods. Depends on how you use it ;o? Not just BS/WS using it in niff. And wat..Dracula abuse o_o?
Title: Re: Change log: Blazer card rate adjusted
Post by: Fidelis on September 21, 2010, 03:57:28 am
"QQ i cant use that one method to get 25mil every hour anymore, now i have to get back to using some other exploit to get only 10mil per hour."
PATHETIC! >:(
Title: )
Post by: Yun on September 21, 2010, 04:27:06 am
I share stat food for everyone =w=
Title: Re: Change log: Blazer card rate adjusted
Post by: Ledum on September 21, 2010, 05:30:42 am
yeah, i noticed the decrease in blazer rate. i feel bad about this. i realy enjoyed making good money but now ..... really sad and boring.
Title: Re: Change log: Blazer card rate adjusted
Post by: Johnsu on September 21, 2010, 06:27:04 am
I don't get you guys. You guys paid a crapload of zeny, to make zeny that you lost buying it in the first place?
Title: Re: Change log: Blazer card rate adjusted
Post by: Typhoom on September 21, 2010, 06:40:24 am
nah blazer easily paid for it self xD though still kinda sucks ;~; shoulda just changed the dracula crap D:<
Title: Re: Change log: Blazer card rate adjusted
Post by: SukiChii on September 21, 2010, 07:27:50 am
Ha. You so funny. Usually, you at least know what you're talking about when you're trying to be witty.
Actually, no idea. I'm not really up-to-date when it comes to server issues anymore. When I rarely talk to Schrodinger and Haine, we do not talk about such stuff. It's not like I still (need to) try to uphold a reputation, since it seems that most people here ignore me/don't like me anyway. So I'm just doing that for my own pleasure from time to time. Or maybe not, as it seems that one can't find any entertainment on these forums anymore.
Obviously, the numbers are a bit exaggerated, but considering that a lot of players complain just because of a small (?) change in a card effect, I assumed something along those lines. Why would you quit if one card effects gets lowered? Seems a bit pathetic and exaggerated to me.
Title: Re: Change log: Blazer card rate adjusted
Post by: hunksurvivorx on September 21, 2010, 03:52:10 pm
Ha. You so funny. Usually, you at least know what you're talking about when you're trying to be witty.
Actually, no idea. I'm not really up-to-date when it comes to server issues anymore. When I rarely talk to Schrodinger and Haine, we do not talk about such stuff. It's not like I still (need to) try to uphold a reputation, since it seems that most people here ignore me/don't like me anyway. So I'm just doing that for my own pleasure from time to time. Or maybe not, as it seems that one can't find any entertainment on these forums anymore.
Obviously, the numbers are a bit exaggerated, but considering that a lot of players complain just because of a small (?) change in a card effect, I assumed something along those lines. Why would you quit if one card effects gets lowered? Seems a bit pathetic and exaggerated to me.
how many % is that "small change" GMs didnt told anything about it.
Title: Re: Change log: Blazer card rate adjusted
Post by: traci on September 21, 2010, 05:03:42 pm
what a waste again... blazer was totally worth it now it sux... leave things alone sometimes sheesh!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Change log: Blazer card rate adjusted
Post by: hunksurvivorx on September 21, 2010, 05:09:49 pm
well, when ARO register 50 players online at day, they will increase the drop rate and even more, or just sink with their ship <<?
Title: Re: Change log: Blazer card rate adjusted
Post by: katadama on September 21, 2010, 05:20:56 pm
stop crying :D just get another hell poodle, mob bigger and it'll make up for the blazer. And i think i read things will go back to how we had it in aegis, did someone really say that? If so, will the def rate being go back to how we had it in aegis or no? Anyone know?
@fedilis, IHU
Title: Re: Change log: Blazer card rate adjusted
Post by: hunksurvivorx on September 21, 2010, 05:22:15 pm
stop crying :D just get another hell poodle, mob bigger and it'll make up for the blazer. And i think i read things will go back to how we had it in aegis, did someone really say that? If so, will the def rate being go back to how we had it in aegis or no? Anyone know?
@fedilis, IHU
(spit in his face) split!!! o3o!!!! anyway ill use both when farming red bloods DX
Title: Re: Change log: Blazer card rate adjusted
Post by: Ledum on September 21, 2010, 05:33:54 pm
stop crying :D just get another hell poodle, mob bigger and it'll make up for the blazer.
So these mean mob bigger = less mobs around. Imagine what this can do. imagine we all mob using hell poodle. im sure we will see less mobs especially in niff. x2 annoying.
I think blazer balance the mobbing in niff. i found it people tend to mob lesser (of course less than if u have 2 Hpoodle).
Title: Re: Change log: Blazer card rate adjusted
Post by: hunksurvivorx on September 21, 2010, 06:50:45 pm
this is a sad day for ARO
Title: Re: Change log: Blazer card rate adjusted
Post by: Haine on September 21, 2010, 07:39:49 pm
I was still able to make 2.2mil from Blazers alone in 30 minutes. Granted, I was doing it lazily as I was watching a show and talking on AIM.
Instead of complaining based on theory, give me some actual numbers. Rates are easy to adjust, and the current rate won't necessarily stay. It definitely won't stay as high as it was previously, but it may still be increased a bit.
Title: Re: Change log: Blazer card rate adjusted
Post by: Roon on September 21, 2010, 07:42:56 pm
if it's back to what it used to be then what it used to be is fine D: Just a question though, is the 2.2m in how-much-you-could-sell-it-for numbers or how much the NPC paid you? :P
Title: Re: Change log: Blazer card rate adjusted
Post by: Haine on September 21, 2010, 07:44:05 pm
if it's back to what it used to be then what it used to be is fine D: Just a question though, is the 2.2m in how-much-you-could-sell-it-for numbers or how much the NPC paid you? :P
I just NPC'ed it quickly... I was too lazy to actually count stuff and figure out market value. :(
Title: Re: Change log: Blazer card rate adjusted
Post by: Roon on September 21, 2010, 07:48:23 pm
o.o that's pretty good, I should start using my blazer
Title: Re: Change log: Blazer card rate adjusted
Post by: ratsparxx on September 21, 2010, 07:51:57 pm
If its going back to Aegis will the emp not be holy anymore then? :P
Title: Re: Change log: Blazer card rate adjusted
Post by: Combo on September 21, 2010, 07:54:21 pm
I picked off my blazer cards at 50k back in 2007 when no one knew what it did :3
Anyhow this was log over due. But I feel this came after the Dracula abuse. They should have just fixed Dracula rather then fixing Blazer , imo. I loved using the card in poison spores :(
I don't see what the big deal about it was since 1) it wasn't a bug, 2) only one person could farm Dracula at a time and if you randomly managed to spawn one out of countless BBs or even on your very first one, it would only last a couple of hours. 3) If you did manage to find drac, anyone could go ahead and stop you from farming if they really wanted to. MVPs are free for all, anyway.
Seems like the GMs changed it because a friend of theirs cried to them about it. Farming drac wasn't the best way to make money with blazers. Like Razer said, you could easily make a lot more by mobbing spores. Hell, I think even spores would be easier than Drac. You need more reductions for drac and if someone did feel like camping it, you wouldn't even be able to farm him as long as that person wanted him dead.
Was the current drop rate even different form what it use to be? It's almost like the GMs WANT people to only niff. Seriously, another method of making zeny pops up and it automatically means it's an exploit.
Title: Re: Change log: Blazer card rate adjusted
Post by: Typhoom on September 21, 2010, 09:08:50 pm
I was still able to make 2.2mil from Blazers alone in 30 minutes. Granted, I was doing it lazily as I was watching a show and talking on AIM.
Instead of complaining based on theory, give me some actual numbers. Rates are easy to adjust, and the current rate won't necessarily stay. It definitely won't stay as high as it was previously, but it may still be increased a bit.
over 600-700 monsters only 10 stat foods :[
Title: Re: Change log: Blazer card rate adjusted
Post by: hunksurvivorx on September 21, 2010, 09:17:31 pm
tested, and got definitaly less food, but oh well. enuff to my personal use.
Title: Re: Change log: Blazer card rate adjusted
Post by: InterSpectra on September 21, 2010, 10:09:30 pm
Sigh, I wrote a lot but the fucking backspace button on the wrong context field made me GO BACK. So now I lost all I was going to say. Laptop touchpad OASBFOUASBDAS
Seriously, another method of making zeny pops up and it automatically means it's an exploit.
QFT
Now I don't own a Blazer clip, never had; In this case however this should have not even have been considered an exploit/bug. It was WELL WITHIN bounds of the current game mechanics. There have been plenty of new changes overtime that limit the inherent different ways to make zeny, but if our Blazer card food drop rate was originally lower, then they should be able to change it at their own discretion.
Now can we please get all the other original "little" things changed back please? Maybe these perhaps? (http://www.animusro.com/forums/index.php/topic,94856.0.html)
And let's not forget the other magic stuff, which never even got moved into Ongoing Investigations! (http://www.animusro.com/forums/index.php/topic,98485.0.html) I haven't said anything about these things for months, but us veterans will still remember. New headgears are superficial and do not change gameplay in any way.
For the 4 years I've been on this server, I have seen various changes that were strictly directed at the non-cookie cutter different ways* to obtain zeny well within bounds of the current game mechanics. Out of box thinking is neither encouraged nor advisable.
*Note: I admit that even if some of those ways were well within bounds of the game mechanics, they should not crash the server, and be changed accordingly.
Title: Re: Change log: Blazer card rate adjusted
Post by: Typhoom on September 21, 2010, 10:14:44 pm
I picked off my blazer cards at 50k back in 2007 when no one knew what it did :3
Anyhow this was log over due. But I feel this came after the Dracula abuse. They should have just fixed Dracula rather then fixing Blazer , imo. I loved using the card in poison spores :(
I don't see what the big deal about it was since 1) it wasn't a bug, 2) only one person could farm Dracula at a time and if you randomly managed to spawn one out of countless BBs or even on your very first one, it would only last a couple of hours. 3) If you did manage to find drac, anyone could go ahead and stop you from farming if they really wanted to. MVPs are free for all, anyway.
Seems like the GMs changed it because a friend of theirs cried to them about it. Farming drac wasn't the best way to make money with blazers. Like Razer said, you could easily make a lot more by mobbing spores. Hell, I think even spores would be easier than Drac. You need more reductions for drac and if someone did feel like camping it, you wouldn't even be able to farm him as long as that person wanted him dead.
Was the current drop rate even different form what it use to be? It's almost like the GMs WANT people to only niff. Seriously, another method of making zeny pops up and it automatically means it's an exploit.
^good argument ;3
Title: Re: Change log: Blazer card rate adjusted
Post by: Haine on September 21, 2010, 10:28:31 pm
Nobody said it was an exploit. If we thought it was an exploit, we would have done something else, like completely prevent people from farming MVP spawns with it.
And Neetox... Nobody I know personally has COMPLAINED about Blazer. I don't talk to anyone personally about the going ons of PvM.
And let's not forget the other magic stuff, which never even got moved into Ongoing Investigations!
Conspiracy? Or maybe due to the fact that nothing gets moved to ongoing investigations anymore. :P If it mattered enough I would just delete ongoing investigations and put everything back into their respective categories, but there's honestly no point, since almost all of them in there are game mechanic issues. It's also due to the fact that Talis was the only one who can fix game mechanic issues, although that hasn't already been said dozens of times already.
I guess most of you just failed to read that I said it would probably get adjusted again if you started actually giving me facts, instead of just complaining.
Title: Re: Change log: Blazer card rate adjusted
Post by: Typhoom on September 21, 2010, 10:32:40 pm
*posted some numbers like requested ???*
Title: Re: Change log: Blazer card rate adjusted
Post by: Haine on September 21, 2010, 10:33:20 pm
And let's not forget the other magic stuff, which never even got moved into Ongoing Investigations!
Conspiracy? Or maybe due to the fact that nothing gets moved to ongoing investigations anymore. :P If it mattered enough I would just delete ongoing investigations and put everything back into their respective categories, but there's honestly no point, since almost all of them in there are game mechanic issues. It's also due to the fact that Talis was the only one who can fix game mechanic issues, although that hasn't already been said dozens of times already.
I guess most of you just failed to read that I said it would probably get adjusted again if you started actually giving me facts, instead of just complaining.
Oh I noticed that Ongoing Investigations hasn't held a new topic in a while. I also realize Talis is the only one able to currently modify game mechanics. Nonetheless, it's true our reports have been sitting around for a long time. I just wish we didn't have the forced platform switch due to unfortunate circumstances so that these weren't addressed first, the beta testing was during my final month of the spring semester so I didn't have any time to test and report ;<
Here's to hoping the game mechanics discrepancies get resolved before we all forget what was changed (or worse).
Title: Re: Change log: Blazer card rate adjusted
Post by: Haine on September 21, 2010, 10:57:02 pm
And let's not forget the other magic stuff, which never even got moved into Ongoing Investigations!
Conspiracy? Or maybe due to the fact that nothing gets moved to ongoing investigations anymore. :P If it mattered enough I would just delete ongoing investigations and put everything back into their respective categories, but there's honestly no point, since almost all of them in there are game mechanic issues. It's also due to the fact that Talis was the only one who can fix game mechanic issues, although that hasn't already been said dozens of times already.
I guess most of you just failed to read that I said it would probably get adjusted again if you started actually giving me facts, instead of just complaining.
Oh I noticed that Ongoing Investigations hasn't held a new topic in a while. I also realize Talis is the only one able to currently modify game mechanics. Nonetheless, it's true our reports have been sitting around for a long time. I just wish we didn't have the forced platform switch due to unfortunate circumstances so that these weren't addressed first, the beta testing was during my final month of the spring semester so I didn't have any time to test and report ;<
Here's to hoping the game mechanics discrepancies get resolved before we all forget what was changed (or worse).
Well, we recently got a test server up and running, which means Schro can attempt to make modifications and try and do game mechanic changes there. If they don't cause issues there, he can get the go-ahead from Talis and modify it on the main server.
Title: Re: Change log: Blazer card rate adjusted
Post by: Ledum on September 21, 2010, 11:33:32 pm
Ok lets do what GM wanted about numbers/ facts. :-*
Its there discretion to change what they think need to be change as what others saying. But for me dont forget that this is a community. Maybe talking about some changes first would settle everyone else. :police:
I feel sorry to a newbie in this server that I advice to buy blazer card. He asked me what are the good source in making zeny and I suggested this among others. :laugh:
Title: Re: Change log: Blazer card rate adjusted
Post by: Razer on September 22, 2010, 12:41:05 am
Like Razer said, you could easily make a lot more by mobbing spores. Hell, I think even spores would be easier than Drac.
I never said that , I just said I enjoyed doing that and you make around 500k to 1.5M per hour doing that. I for a fact know Dracula farming made much more(several times) by hearing the bragging of a few players regarding it.
In fact , Dracula is what made Blazer seem broken. I dont think its drop rate was retarded in terms of Niff and other places. 2-4M/hr in niff and 0.5 to 1.5M /Hr poison spores were what the figures were with the old rate.
In my opinion, something needed to be done about Dracula and not Blazers. Maybe reduce its spawns to a tougher type of bat - 8 explosions ? instead of 20 farmiliars. Or make Drac teleport a lot ?
Title: Re: Change log: Blazer card rate adjusted
Post by: Haine on September 22, 2010, 12:54:20 am
In my opinion, something needed to be done about Dracula and not Blazers. Maybe reduce its spawns to a tougher type of bat - 8 explosions ? instead of 20 farmiliars. Or make Drac teleport a lot ?
Teleporting tends to just get annoying :( Dracula (was) a pretty good MVP for EXP, especially when you got a friend or two or three to help boost it, so I wouldn't want to cut out people farming it all together. But I'll take adjusting/replacing the familiars into consideration.
That reminds me, I gotta poke Talis about MVP EXP again...
Title: Re: Change log: Blazer card rate adjusted
Post by: balam on September 22, 2010, 01:05:10 am
I wonder if those guys really made that much o.O one would think 3 WS's could make the same ammount of money by just niffing
Title: Re: Change log: Blazer card rate adjusted
Post by: Linmakana on September 22, 2010, 01:06:11 am
That reminds me, I gotta poke Talis about MVP EXP again...
DO
Yesh! Por favor, senorita? ;3
Title: Re: Change log: Blazer card rate adjusted
Post by: redhairweasel on September 22, 2010, 07:33:05 am
wat hapen to "moar zny sink!"?
Title: Re: Change log: Blazer card rate adjusted
Post by: kurip on September 22, 2010, 08:55:37 am
halloween event pretty much screwed up the economy. few items/cards that could be sold for pocket money are now worthless adding more sinks in the noob economy will only make more and more players quit.
im waiting for haine to finish her headgear quests, at least these worthless items can be turned in some fun headgears <:
Title: Re: Change log: Blazer card rate adjusted
Post by: Razer on September 22, 2010, 09:20:53 am
No offence to anyone but the GMs should elect mature player representatives from all camps and discuss Events or new ideas/fixes before implementing them.
On the underlined : So that people dont whine about favoritism. Maybe the players can themselves elect the said representatives.
Title: Re: Change log: Blazer card rate adjusted
Post by: kurip on September 22, 2010, 09:44:18 am
i wouldn't say mature, but at least with the capacity to "predict" the effect of that event on the game economy
Title: Re: Change log: Blazer card rate adjusted
Post by: GreaterPepe on September 22, 2010, 10:14:55 am
Like Razer said, you could easily make a lot more by mobbing spores. Hell, I think even spores would be easier than Drac.
I never said that , I just said I enjoyed doing that and you make around 500k to 1.5M per hour doing that. I for a fact know Dracula farming made much more(several times) by hearing the bragging of a few players regarding it.
In fact , Dracula is what made Blazer seem broken. I dont think its drop rate was retarded in terms of Niff and other places. 2-4M/hr in niff and 0.5 to 1.5M /Hr poison spores were what the figures were with the old rate.
In my opinion, something needed to be done about Dracula and not Blazers. Maybe reduce its spawns to a tougher type of bat - 8 explosions ? instead of 20 farmiliars. Or make Drac teleport a lot ?
16 Familiars. You made a max of 5m per hour if things went smoothly. That's just as much as you'd make in an hour of niff. I'm not sure where you got 2.6m per hour niffing from Lol.
Title: Re: Change log: Blazer card rate adjusted
Post by: Typhoom on September 22, 2010, 02:57:09 pm
yea i always wondered what about if some bio came along an just rapped him with AD or something @_@
Title: Re: Change log: Blazer card rate adjusted
Post by: Neetox on September 22, 2010, 03:00:04 pm
yea i always wondered what about if some bio came along an just rapped him with AD or something @_@
Happens constantly. There's a bio that camps him all day and vends the Yggberries in Pront.
Title: Re: Change log: Blazer card rate adjusted
Post by: SanRath on September 22, 2010, 03:03:08 pm
Well he is one of the few mvps that still have decent-to-high vit left. Bio's might as well catch one break. x;
Edit; if they added explosions, that's just asking for mastella/white herb/rough ori farmmage .-.;
Title: Re: Change log: Blazer card rate adjusted
Post by: Neetox on September 22, 2010, 03:05:38 pm
MVP spawns don't drop items. Only if you're using equipment carded with item dropping cards.
Title: Re: Change log: Blazer card rate adjusted
Post by: SanRath on September 22, 2010, 03:11:25 pm
RSX's minions drop all kinds of fun things currently. o:
Title: Re: Change log: Blazer card rate adjusted
Post by: Neetox on September 22, 2010, 03:14:08 pm
According to RMS only the first 5 waste stoves drop things and the noxious/venomous. ANYWAY
Most MVP spawns don't drop items or give exp. <-<
Title: Re: Change log: Blazer card rate adjusted
Post by: Eruruw on September 22, 2010, 03:15:21 pm
Indeed. In fact, RSX would probably have been a good choice for that kind of farming as well. The only problem is that RSX is a lot more difficult to tank than Dracula is.
Anyway, Blazer definitely needs to be returned to normal. Blazers afforded newbies an easy, effective way to make money. You could make money comparable or better than Niff just by Cart Revolution-ing poison spores with two Blazers.
As for MVP EXP, dear lord PLEASE mention it. It's such a simple fix but would mean the world to people who relied on MVPs for experience.
Title: Re: Change log: Blazer card rate adjusted
Post by: Valash_Vrayr on September 22, 2010, 03:36:12 pm
That is one thing I found painfully ironic. GM's try to make server appealing to new players, and veterans complain because server population is continually decreasing...
THEN the GM's rape one of the few cards that could help a legit new player actually make some progress in this bloody game. What the bloody hell?
As mentioned continually in this thread... fix the problem where it was being severely exploited, and not nerf the card beyond recognition.
Whole thread and every decision that brought this about makes me 'lol'.
Title: Re: Change log: Blazer card rate adjusted
Post by: hunksurvivorx on September 22, 2010, 03:43:39 pm
even sucky game called Tibia has 40k people online diary, omg who in the hell can play that shit <<?
Title: Re: Change log: Blazer card rate adjusted
Post by: kurip on September 22, 2010, 03:47:58 pm
bots
also remember we're in a private server. we don't have advertisement like all other MMOs have
Title: Re: Change log: Blazer card rate adjusted
Post by: hunksurvivorx on September 22, 2010, 03:50:39 pm
also remember we're in a private server. we don't have advertisement like all other MMOs have
if you noticed zampbomb hackshield is dead, so aro users can bot, use makro and etc, just tell in advertisement, this server has no antihack protection, JOIN NOW!
Title: Re: Change log: Blazer card rate adjusted
Post by: balam on September 22, 2010, 06:27:35 pm
Blazers didnt help that much newbies... people are paying higher for stuff cause they could get money much easier (cause of low supply/high demand too tho...) so new players cant really save for items faster
I really dont think dracula was that much zeny cause they had to split the money but meh
Title: Re: Change log: Blazer card rate adjusted
Post by: Ledum on September 22, 2010, 08:38:58 pm
halloween event pretty much screwed up the economy. few items/cards that could be sold for pocket money are now worthless adding more sinks in the noob economy will only make more and more players quit.
im waiting for haine to finish her headgear quests, at least these worthless items can be turned in some fun headgears <:
I agree. Blazer also add some fun and giving us better hope in achieving what we are all aiming, gears and stuff. This also make players to go to different maps because they know they can still earn good zeny from statfoods.
Title: Re: Change log: Blazer card rate adjusted
Post by: bLitzkr!eg on September 23, 2010, 03:35:36 am
Blazers didnt help that much newbies... people are paying higher for stuff cause they could get money much easier (cause of low supply/high demand too tho...) so new players cant really save for items faster
I really dont think dracula was that much zeny cause they had to split the money but meh
dracs gives about 6m-7m per hr. most of the time, you had people lined up so you dont really get to drac consecutively. at niff when its least crowded (which is rarely during the day)can net me 6m per hr. niff with average crowd and no champ, nets me 2.2-2.5m per 30mins.
now with the adjusted drop rate, niff with average crowd nets me 1.8m-2.0m per 30 mins. is not that bad. rates are still better than the old server when I remember I can barely get 3-5 foods in 30 mins
Title: Re: Change log: Blazer card rate adjusted
Post by: *-*Gato*-* on September 23, 2010, 08:15:09 pm
That reminds me, I gotta poke Talis about MVP EXP again...
DO
Yesh! Por favor, senorita? ;3
please!!!!!!!!!! any estimate on this?
Title: Re: Change log: Blazer card rate adjusted
Post by: hunksurvivorx on September 23, 2010, 11:47:43 pm
another 3 years maybe
Title: Re: Change log: Blazer card rate adjusted
Post by: dailydaily on September 24, 2010, 12:09:45 am
i had to disagree with this reduced rates.
i usually make 1.5mil or so in niff every 30 mins *cos i die like an idiot*
equally contributing from stat foods and niff drops !! i get about 800k worth of stats foods and another 800k or so + worth of niff items !! if i remember correctly, i would be making 4 mil per hour from niff drops and stat foods if i dont die, today when i played and i dint die, i ran out of berserk and came to town, my total number of stat food is just 5 !!
i never get less than 10 atleast i come to town with my cart full of stat foods !!
this just sucks. I invested 15mil in blazer and all i get is some less money .. dont comment its better to put one more hell poodle and mob bigger, every mob almost drops a +7 or +8 or +10, its equal to a good price than mobbing bigger. And, with a lot of other WS and BS, u cant find mob much bigger. From poison spores map, i could make 10 or 15 stat foods in like 20mins, its not bad, but its much much much less than wat i did previously.
i earned money to make a kaho, after 4 years, in the past three months, with blazer. and i advice newbs to do the same. Please make it a little higher or previous drop rate.
for veterans, it doesnt hurt, but for noobs like me, it takes away lot of hope !!
Title: Re: Change log: Blazer card rate adjusted
Post by: balam on September 24, 2010, 12:14:32 am
noobs dont go around with a geared smith...
Title: Re: Change log: Blazer card rate adjusted
Post by: Linmakana on September 24, 2010, 12:16:02 am
You have a Kaho and geared smith, yet you're still calling yourself a noob?
I don't have a Kaho and I haven't gotten a single character to trans yet. I've been here what, 3~4 years?
Title: Re: Change log: Blazer card rate adjusted
Post by: dailydaily on September 24, 2010, 04:11:14 am
my mistake, i dont have a kaho yet
yeah, i have a geared smith, which i earned from my blazer!!
i had grown to a level from just 10mil + some stuff, which i sold to get blazer to a geared smith + money to buy a kaho with blazer. *3 months+ but i have been playing for like 5 years*
i earned a lot, buy some armors, up them, made so much.. technically, all my finances came from blazer !! now, my major portion of income is cut.
I am just arguing, if a newb has earned so hard to buy a blazer and one night, bamn.. no more foods for u !! go and play elsewhere kiddo !!
this isnt fair.
Also, when everyone asked GM will the irfit rings be in item shop, or diablous robes, GM clearly stated, they may get nerfed, so we are not keeping it on the item shop. then why did they have to nerf an item, being used so long ??
by the way, what was the drop percent previously and what is it now ?
Title: Re: Change log: Blazer card rate adjusted
Post by: G-Star on September 24, 2010, 04:47:14 am
I wonder if those guys really made that much o.O one would think 3 WS's could make the same ammount of money by just niffing
but before the BB's Changed we had a map with like 5 dracs on it, everyone made like 20m in 30 minutes or more 8)
Title: Re: Change log: Blazer card rate adjusted
Post by: Typhoom on September 24, 2010, 06:43:01 am
then take drac out of BB xD! or make it a certain number of mvps from BB permap if possible
Title: Re: Change log: Blazer card rate adjusted
Post by: zechariah on September 24, 2010, 08:05:41 am
return blazer food drop rate to normal & disable all slaves of mvps to drop nothing at all, or keep blazer food drop rate as it is now.
Food still drops anyhow, don't see the point of players complaining about the food drop rates now.
Title: Re: Change log: Blazer card rate adjusted
Post by: Baka Baka on September 24, 2010, 09:34:19 am
Killed around 1100 - 1250 monsters in Niff walked away with about 15 stat food...Those odds suck.
The blazer card actually helped me finally buy a Kaho after being here for about 5months.
(Side Note: No I dont play all the time college student / Job. Played Smart Not Hard. How can you be here for 5yrs+ and no gears/kaho?)
Anyways, the blazer card taking such a major dive is horrible for new players and semi-new playersl alike. Most of the ppl whose comments amount to no more than "Quit Complaining" are not the ppl who have arrived recently and are looking for a means to break into some wealth on this server. Take away blazer card for some and your killing off whole incomes or great chunks of income at least. Niff is an option but not really in the sense of if you dont have the 100m+ to make a BS niff ready your assed out once again.
If no one was complaining about the Blazer card, and it was actually helping ppl progress then WHY would the GMs who work for the better good of the community as a whole nerf it...and nerf almost without letting most ppl know?
In closing I have given my figures, and also to the GM that said they niffed for 30mins and walked away with 2.2m:
What was your gear?
How crowded was niff?
How many monsters do you think you killed?
Baka :angel:
Title: Re: Change log: Blazer card rate adjusted
Post by: Roon on September 24, 2010, 09:40:30 am
Killed around 1100 - 1250 monsters in Niff walked away with about 15 stat food...Those odds suck.
The blazer card actually helped me finally buy a Kaho after being here for about 5months.
(Side Note: No I dont play all the time college student / Job. Played Smart Not Hard. How can you be here for 5yrs+ and no gears/kaho?)
Anyways, the blazer card taking such a major dive is horrible for new players and semi-new playersl alike. Most of the ppl whose comments amount to no more than "Quit Complaining" are not the ppl who have arrived recently and are looking for a means to break into some wealth on this server. Take away blazer card for some and your killing off whole incomes or great chunks of income at least. Niff is an option but not really in the sense of if you dont have the 100m+ to make a BS niff ready your assed out once again.
If no one was complaining about the Blazer card, and it was actually helping ppl progress then WHY would the GMs who work for the better good of the community as a whole nerf it...and nerf almost without letting most ppl know?
In closing I have given my figures, and also to the GM that said they niffed for 30mins and walked away with 2.2m:
What was your gear?
How crowded was niff?
How many monsters do you think you killed?
Baka :angel:
seems like Baka Bara lol, second account <<
Title: Re: Change log: Blazer card rate adjusted
Post by: Baka Baka on September 24, 2010, 01:35:04 pm
Killed around 1100 - 1250 monsters in Niff walked away with about 15 stat food...Those odds suck.
The blazer card actually helped me finally buy a Kaho after being here for about 5months.
(Side Note: No I dont play all the time college student / Job. Played Smart Not Hard. How can you be here for 5yrs+ and no gears/kaho?)
Anyways, the blazer card taking such a major dive is horrible for new players and semi-new playersl alike. Most of the ppl whose comments amount to no more than "Quit Complaining" are not the ppl who have arrived recently and are looking for a means to break into some wealth on this server. Take away blazer card for some and your killing off whole incomes or great chunks of income at least. Niff is an option but not really in the sense of if you dont have the 100m+ to make a BS niff ready your assed out once again.
If no one was complaining about the Blazer card, and it was actually helping ppl progress then WHY would the GMs who work for the better good of the community as a whole nerf it...and nerf almost without letting most ppl know?
In closing I have given my figures, and also to the GM that said they niffed for 30mins and walked away with 2.2m:
What was your gear?
How crowded was niff?
How many monsters do you think you killed?
Baka :angel:
seems like Baka Bara lol, second account <<
I have no idea who that is dude I am fairly new to the server as stated. If my word isn't enough look for past threads on these boards for the proof.
Just don't usually post that much. =\
Title: Re: Change log: Blazer card rate adjusted
Post by: Typhoom on September 24, 2010, 01:40:37 pm
then take drac out of BB xD! or make it a certain number of mvps from BB permap if possible
okay can we not nerf guild parties even more? @___@ awful suggestion.
more so joke just there is only so long a mvp form dead branch can stay alive an the chances of getting drac are only so many @-@ so it cant be THAT abusable?
Title: Re: Change log: Blazer card rate adjusted
Post by: GoddessDigi on September 24, 2010, 02:59:37 pm
Just to be clear- Didn't they only nerf it to what it was originally, before the switch?
Title: Re: Change log: Blazer card rate adjusted
Post by: Typhoom on September 24, 2010, 03:03:00 pm
i think the original is what we had before they nerfed it to the what it was on the aegis @_@
Title: Re: Change log: Blazer card rate adjusted
Post by: GoddessDigi on September 24, 2010, 03:03:58 pm
i think the original is what we had before they nerfed it to the what it was on the aegis @_@
Yeah, that's my point. Our original.
Title: Re: Change log: Blazer card rate adjusted
Post by: hunksurvivorx on September 24, 2010, 03:18:42 pm
they never should increased the rate in first time? now feel the rage!!!!!they took out the bread from our mouths rofl!!!!
Title: Re: Change log: Blazer card rate adjusted
Post by: traci on September 24, 2010, 03:26:26 pm
ok, today i spent 1 hour in niff got 7 stat food drops, i then spent 1 hour in priz got 11 stat food drops, Hope these stats help Haine~ still sucha low # =( boo whooooo~
Title: Re: Change log: Blazer card rate adjusted
Post by: Typhoom on September 24, 2010, 06:40:25 pm
did blazer get slightly upped?
Title: Re: Change log: Blazer card rate adjusted
Post by: Roon on September 24, 2010, 07:10:08 pm
i think the original is what we had before they nerfed it to the what it was on the aegis @_@
Yeah, that's my point. Our original.
I thing what happened was that the chance of drop was the same but for some reason dropped more frequently on eA than aegis, so they changed it to be less. I'm NOT sure but I don't think they purposely messed with it and made it higher than it was on aegis from the beginning.
then take drac out of BB xD! or make it a certain number of mvps from BB permap if possible
okay can we not nerf guild parties even more? @___@ awful suggestion.
more so joke just there is only so long a mvp form dead branch can stay alive an the chances of getting drac are only so many @-@ so it cant be THAT abusable?
db monster that got abra'd to any mvp disappear after 4hrs
Title: Re: Change log: Blazer card rate adjusted
Post by: Typhoom on September 28, 2010, 07:22:11 am
any word on this o:
Title: Re: Change log: Blazer card rate adjusted
Post by: hunksurvivorx on September 28, 2010, 12:58:44 pm
i farm dracula and still get good money, (when dracula alive) <<
Title: Re: Change log: Blazer card rate adjusted
Post by: Razer on September 28, 2010, 01:23:12 pm
Dont abra DB monsters - Go to some Memoable map like the one below hugel or the one west of Geffen and morph the natural monsters there. And there you have a Drac that will stay till server reset or till someone kills it.
Title: Re: Change log: Blazer card rate adjusted
Post by: Neetox on September 28, 2010, 08:27:58 pm
Nope. All spawned monsters disappear after 4 hours.