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MDEF Piercing

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rolover

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MDEF Piercing
« on: May 29, 2010, 12:37:28 pm »
Couple questions regarding to the topic:
1- Does High Wizard card work outside of WoE/PvP?
2- Does mind breaker actually work

Reason is...I thought I'd try auto-spell prof in Thors, now I know that they have high MDEF which is why I was wearing/using both the above
However, I was doing 1k total dmg max per lv10 cold bolt on kasas, while my phys crits do 520 each hit
And even though I'm casting like 100 bolts per second it still takes forever to kill them
By my calculations...70MDEF reduced by half then by 60% INT MDEF should lower it enough for someone with 140 int to do more than 100 dmg per bolt
Which brings me to another question of, does the above reduce int-type MDEF as well? Or not? Even if they dont...I should still be doing a lot more damage than I am

on a side note, does HW halve your cast time? I don't think -10 dex makes my cast soooooo much slower :S
« Last Edit: May 29, 2010, 06:59:32 pm by rolover »
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Soul Ring   [ 0 ]   [Upper Head]   Item ID# 5257 (Soulless_Ring)
A halo and a pair of wings that are floating above a head. The item makes the wearer to look like a spirit that is walking on the earth.
MDEF + 2
Add a 1% chance of auto casting Level 1 Assumptio on the user when the user receives Physical Damage.
[+ Mobbing]
May cause mental retardation and loss of common sense

kurip

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Re: MDEF Piercing
« Reply #1 on: May 29, 2010, 12:38:20 pm »
Couple questions regarding to the topic:
1- Does High Wizard card work outside of WoE/PvP?
2- Does mind breaker actually work

Reason is...I thought I'd try auto-spell prof in Thors, now I know that they have high MDEF which is why I was wearing/using both the above
However, I was doing 1k total dmg max per lv10 cold bolt, while my phys crits do 520 each hit
And even though I'm casting like 100 bolts per second it still takes forever to kill them
By my calculations...70MDEF reduced by half then again by 80% should lower it enough for someone with 140 int to do more than 100 dmg per bolt
Which brings me to another question of, does the above reduce int-type MDEF as well? Or not? Even if they dont...I should still be doing a lot more damage than I am

it does, it just doesn't pierce the def of mvps as far as i tested
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Sanri - HP (99/70)
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rolover

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Re: MDEF Piercing
« Reply #2 on: May 29, 2010, 12:39:49 pm »
So are kasas Mini-MVPs now?
And maybe mind-breaker doesn't work on MVPs either? How can you tell if it worked?? It doesn't show any animation like provoke
« Last Edit: May 29, 2010, 12:46:31 pm by rolover »
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Soul Ring   [ 0 ]   [Upper Head]   Item ID# 5257 (Soulless_Ring)
A halo and a pair of wings that are floating above a head. The item makes the wearer to look like a spirit that is walking on the earth.
MDEF + 2
Add a 1% chance of auto casting Level 1 Assumptio on the user when the user receives Physical Damage.
[+ Mobbing]
May cause mental retardation and loss of common sense

aone

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Re: MDEF Piercing
« Reply #3 on: May 29, 2010, 12:42:58 pm »
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kurip

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Re: MDEF Piercing
« Reply #4 on: May 29, 2010, 12:46:25 pm »
ALSO is WB THAT much stronger? Cause I just saw a prof doing 300/hit with it...

that was me, was testing with and without hwiz
same dmg, so hwiz isn't piercing their mdef
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Kurip - HP (99/70)
Akyu - prof (99/6*)
Sanri - HP (99/70)
mesousa - baby sage (99/50)
ruyuri - gypsy (in progress)
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rolover

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Re: MDEF Piercing
« Reply #5 on: May 29, 2010, 01:27:23 pm »
on a side note, does HW halve your cast time? I don't think -10 dex makes my cast soooooo much slower :S
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Item Class : Card
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B>
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Soul Ring   [ 0 ]   [Upper Head]   Item ID# 5257 (Soulless_Ring)
A halo and a pair of wings that are floating above a head. The item makes the wearer to look like a spirit that is walking on the earth.
MDEF + 2
Add a 1% chance of auto casting Level 1 Assumptio on the user when the user receives Physical Damage.
[+ Mobbing]
May cause mental retardation and loss of common sense

crusaderforjustice

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Re: MDEF Piercing
« Reply #6 on: May 29, 2010, 02:45:10 pm »
kasa and salamanders are boss type monsters so the hw card would not pierce their mdef. use the vesper card instead.

and yea, the hw card seems to be doubling cast time as well.
  

kurip

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Re: MDEF Piercing
« Reply #7 on: May 29, 2010, 02:51:36 pm »
never noticed that, i always have ic when i use hwiz @_@

edit: yea, cast is much slower, just tested without stings+hwiz, then with stings+hwiz to keep the exact same ammount of dex. cast is much slower when hwiz is equipped
« Last Edit: May 29, 2010, 02:55:38 pm by kurip »
Spoiler for ign:
Kurip - HP (99/70)
Akyu - prof (99/6*)
Sanri - HP (99/70)
mesousa - baby sage (99/50)
ruyuri - gypsy (in progress)
..
3rd Class Customization pack

crusaderforjustice

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Re: MDEF Piercing
« Reply #8 on: May 29, 2010, 03:35:59 pm »
Ignores MDEF of normal monsters. Slows your casting time by 2x. Reduces SP regeneration rate by 100%.
Drain 2000 SP as the headgear is unequipped.

thats the original description of the card. prob just changed it so it only pierces 50% mdef and -10 dex. before the switch i think we didnt have that increased cast time.
  

rolover

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Re: MDEF Piercing
« Reply #9 on: May 29, 2010, 07:00:12 pm »
i dont think kasas were boss types b4 the switch cause people could freeze them
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A halo and a pair of wings that are floating above a head. The item makes the wearer to look like a spirit that is walking on the earth.
MDEF + 2
Add a 1% chance of auto casting Level 1 Assumptio on the user when the user receives Physical Damage.
[+ Mobbing]
May cause mental retardation and loss of common sense

Bagel-kun

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Re: MDEF Piercing
« Reply #10 on: May 29, 2010, 07:02:41 pm »
They werent they were i do believe using the stats of the ifrit mobs but NOW they are and they are gonna stay that way :P
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rolover

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Re: MDEF Piercing
« Reply #11 on: May 29, 2010, 07:05:33 pm »
they should all give mvp bonus exp like angeling /ok
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Soul Ring   [ 0 ]   [Upper Head]   Item ID# 5257 (Soulless_Ring)
A halo and a pair of wings that are floating above a head. The item makes the wearer to look like a spirit that is walking on the earth.
MDEF + 2
Add a 1% chance of auto casting Level 1 Assumptio on the user when the user receives Physical Damage.
[+ Mobbing]
May cause mental retardation and loss of common sense

crusaderforjustice

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Re: MDEF Piercing
« Reply #12 on: May 29, 2010, 07:23:28 pm »
yea before the change, kasas and salamanders were not boss type. at least another item from the shop is getting more attention now.
  

kurip

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Re: MDEF Piercing
« Reply #13 on: May 29, 2010, 07:24:48 pm »
S> prof thors leech ;Da

/sarcasm
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Kurip - HP (99/70)
Akyu - prof (99/6*)
Sanri - HP (99/70)
mesousa - baby sage (99/50)
ruyuri - gypsy (in progress)
..
3rd Class Customization pack

rolover

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Re: MDEF Piercing
« Reply #14 on: May 29, 2010, 07:41:35 pm »
*note to self
buy vesper before it changes to 25 ads

and i wanted mainly to hunt the guardians w/ prof for those /slur drops :(
but theyre mini mvps too x_x
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Item Class : Card
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B>
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Soul Ring   [ 0 ]   [Upper Head]   Item ID# 5257 (Soulless_Ring)
A halo and a pair of wings that are floating above a head. The item makes the wearer to look like a spirit that is walking on the earth.
MDEF + 2
Add a 1% chance of auto casting Level 1 Assumptio on the user when the user receives Physical Damage.
[+ Mobbing]
May cause mental retardation and loss of common sense