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Atroce card for Anthem

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Re: Atroce card for Anthem
« Reply #15 on: April 12, 2010, 04:09:34 pm »
People already use DDD/DDDD weapons to attack through slow grace as it is.

yea i aggree, so atroce is going to be useless right? :O
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Re: Atroce card for Anthem
« Reply #16 on: April 12, 2010, 04:45:07 pm »
Paper card gives 20% more damage with crits, and not many people use it.



Id like atroce to give something along the lines of autocasting [insert skill here]

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Re: Atroce card for Anthem
« Reply #17 on: April 12, 2010, 05:19:26 pm »
Not much people use Paper card because TG cards are better. Plus that 1 SPdrain is annoying. :P

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paper = 20% critboost
[0.12 TFcritboost + 2.2papercard critboost] [(1.2 TG card)(140+28 TFkatar)] = 467.712
[0.12 TFcritboost + 2.4papercards critboost] [(140+28 TFkatar)] = 423.36
if atroce = 30%critboost
2.42 * 201.6 = 487.872
2.72 * 168 = 456.96
if atroce = 33%critboost
2.45 * 201.6 = 493.92
2.78 * 168 =  467. 04
if atroce = 35%critboost
2.47 * 201.6 = 497.952
2.82 * 168 = 473.76
[0.12 TFcritboost + 2.0 critboost] [(1.4 TG cards)(140+28 TFkatar)] = 498.624

[0.30 ARTcritboost + 2.2papercard critboost] [(1.2 TG card)(150+28 ARTbow)] = 534
[0.30 ARTcritboost + 2.4papercards critboost] [(150+28 ARTbow)] = 480.6
[0.30 ARTcritboost + 2.0 critboost] [(1.4 TG cards)(150+28 ARTbow)] = 573.16

I added extra LUK in Atroce because when fighting a monster using criticals, their statLUK competes with the player's statLUK.

Forgers/alchemists/archers can use Atroce's LUK for their skills. /ok

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CRIT
Critical Hit Rate: Your critical hit rating, which does damage that fully ignores enemy DEF, both % and pure value part. Because of difficulty of acquiring CRIT without sacrificing lots of other stats or useful cards/gears, it is recommended it is used on classes that naturally has fast ASPD one way or another. Offensive Skills do not take CRIT into account with the exception of Focused Arrow Strike. Critical Hit also ignore FLEE but not PERFECT DODGE.

The critical rate being displayed in the status window isn't the true value which is applied against monsters. The "status crit" is calculated by dividing current LUK by 3 and adding the crit bonuses from equips/cards. The real crit rate is a little different. Formula : LUK*0.3 + bonuses.

When you attack a monster or a player, the target's LUK influences your critical hit rate. Every 5 LUK that the target has, you lose 1% crit (Which isn't shown in the status window). For example if you hit Angeling, that has 100 LUK, you'll lose 100/5 = 20 crit. This crit tolerance is also known as "Crit Shield" on Doddler's monster database.

Critical is doubled when you use Katar type weapon.
   
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Re: Atroce card for Anthem
« Reply #18 on: April 12, 2010, 07:50:03 pm »
People already use DDD/DDDD weapons to attack through slow grace as it is.

yea i aggree, so atroce is going to be useless right? :O

I was saying that because someone said atroce would allow you to be able to get through slow grace so it would be a bad idea.  My point was you can get through it anyway.  Even with doppels, there are uses the atroce card can fill in this server.  One i'm thinking about is someone making a DD atroce and attack until you get the berserk buff, then swap to a weapon with all damage modifiers like TTH and have a burst of DPS until it wears off.  Then go back to DD Atroce.
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Re: Atroce card for Anthem
« Reply #19 on: April 13, 2010, 10:47:51 am »
People already use DDD/DDDD weapons to attack through slow grace as it is.

yea i aggree, so atroce is going to be useless right? :O

I was saying that because someone said atroce would allow you to be able to get through slow grace so it would be a bad idea.  My point was you can get through it anyway.  Even with doppels, there are uses the atroce card can fill in this server.  One i'm thinking about is someone making a DD atroce and attack until you get the berserk buff, then swap to a weapon with all damage modifiers like TTH and have a burst of DPS until it wears off.  Then go back to DD Atroce.

^^^ Something akin to what i did on the beta server, aspd set for sin daggs on the open beta would proc 190 aspd, and with an atroce card in as well it was alot of fun