negative def?

[tsukaza13]

is it possible for def to drop below zero if you have less than 50 def while equipping a tao gunka card?

[HaruSama]

Yes. Ice Pick will miss on negative Def targets too.

[4n0nym0u5]

How awesome *changes stats*

[ExodusLight]

Ice pick will miss, but if the attacker swaps to another Weapon, you are dead.

[notthecheatr]

Unless you then remove Tao

[ExodusLight]

Swap to Ice Pick again.
And, If you remove Tao, you will have less MHP.

[SwiftStrike]

miss and hit 0's is different in show

[ShinigamiSama]

Swift I've used that to confuse some pretty stupid SinX....xD

Tao card is bad against me...I use spells

If you're a SinX you can use a grimtooth to mitigate the def drop. With an endow it's a pretty plausible action. Good weap+Grimtooth+tao. Two grims isn't too bad either, imo.

[tsukaza13]

what about PvM wise? is -30 def too crappy to play with?

[ShinigamiSama]

It's 30% more damage from everything.....

Really depends on what you're fighting. To many it's a no in PvM. It does depend on your class though.

Personally I love def. Can never seem to get enough of it.

[tsukaza13]

an assassin, fighting mvps. what then?

[ShinigamiSama]

Dude you need def. If you truly want to use tao, do this. Use a tao and switch when it reaches a number congruent to your normal HP. Then you get the benefit without the negatives. Also, switch on tao when healing, makes the process faster.

Personally when MvP'ing if I didn't just go with my garm I went with an elemental armor corresponding with an elemental attack or attacks that the boss used frequently even better when carded with a skill that freezes, stones the minions in the process.

Just my suggestion anyway.

[4n0nym0u5]

Tao gunka was meant for hp WHORES =3

[tsukaza13]

thank you. 

one more question. what does garm card do? i can't find it on RODE.

[HaruSama]

thank you. 

one more question. what does garm card do? i can't find it on RODE.

Garm + 10 Def, armor card.

On this server, that is.