first dopp card?

[aero916]

what would be a good weapon to put it in?  i have a knight, sage, blacksmith, assassin...

[redhairweasel]

dont expect a lot with that 1 card >.>

sage dont need THAT doppel...but they can use Doppel dagger for faster autocast (never tried so nothing much i can comment)
knight dont need doppel because they can level just fine with their Brandish/BB/Pierce. but they can still use that doppel if u slot into dagger
blacksmith need that doppel in mace...but if u dont have eddga yet...u need to have more zenny for that doppel to be worthy
assassin need doppel in dagger...hunting zenny with sin is actually decent with your low budget

good dagger is gladius...depends on your budget...but make sure the minimum refine is +7

[aero916]

i could buy a glad and over up it to +10..so go with that? im just hyped that i got my first one finnally... im just looking for something versitile and such... id really like to get one character to trans.... +85 base with all the characters i have rite now... i was trying to find something that would speed the process

[newly]

you'll waste a lot of money trying to get a glad to +10 [if you have to buy the glads and oridecons]. and i say if you do make a +10 glad. just sell both ur dopp and glad for +10ddpt mg or +10 dbss mace

[Velocity]

Use it wisely.

I think you should go with a +10 MG if you really want to go glad because cheaper alternative

[aero916]

wuts the difference between a MG and a glad? is it not even worth the trouble?

[Razer]

Get a +10 Blade[4] and slot it in. Thats what I did with my first doppel.
My Merchant, Knight, Assassin could all use it
Apart from that I could make novices upto level 60 and then change them into other classes like mages or archers and I would reset stats to get great damage.

The second card should be another Doppel followed by a Phreeoni and finaly a Turtle gen.
DDTP.
[Sin]
You will rock as a sin with this weapon.
[Knight]
You wont have fast pierce but you can always use bash and Bowling bash with your DDTP.
[Smith]
You can use overthrust with sword but it can break occassionaly so you must carry iron ores to repair it as well.

[redhairweasel]

dont try +10 glad...u will quit RO with your fund

glad is 700k ish, 1 oridecon is 20k ish
u do the math

carding a +10 DDTP mg is 75m
+7 Glad DDP is 55m
+8 Glad DDP is 58m
+9 Glad DDP is 62m

u decide

fyi-those are old price

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the thing is...he might gave up slotting all the card and it is hard to resell unfinished dagger/blade
why would he card the dagger anymore when u can buy DDTP mg at 60~65m?

[aero916]

i dont gotta worry about the ori... i have wayyyyy too many... and the glads are that expensive? that doesnt seem rite but idk cuz i cant really log in or anything until i get offa work... i have a few from hunting kobolds in my swordy days... i just want something super versitile... rite now the blade sounds like a good idea....

[DA~Kaitou]

Why a blade? You can't double attack with a blade. Merch, Swordie and Thief classes can all use daggers and sins can utilize it better while Merchies and Swordies use it the same way as a sword.

If you're gonna slot it, I suggest +10 MG (most useful since almost any other class can use it) or +7~8 Glad (buy rather than make probably). +10 Glad is too expensive.

The reason why new people would rather slot their on is because the 50-60 mil price range is a bit overwhelming. Most people would just slowly acquire their their stuff while being able to use 'em. If they sell the first one or two doppels they get, what do they have to earn the rest with?

[redhairweasel]

razerman suggest blade...which mean equip your blade to your left hand...same thing when u used DDTP mg (maybe u use DDTP on right hand...bad choice)

i dont gotta worry about the ori... i have wayyyyy too many... and the glads are that expensive? that doesnt seem rite but idk cuz i cant really log in or anything until i get offa work... i have a few from hunting kobolds in my swordy days... i just want something super versitile... rite now the blade sounds like a good idea....

sure go for blade but keep this in mind
making a DDTP blade/mg is 75~80m while u can actually buy it at 60~65m
only 15m loss~

[Razer]

Well, a blade double attacks when you become an Assassin and hold a dagger in the other hnd. I suggested Blade because of the size reductions. A dagger has much more then a blade.
Blade bypasses some d amage nerfs on sizes as compared to daggers. Apart from that A Blade is a sword and you get mastery damage with a swordman on a sword.

MG is beneficial only to a rogue . Its helpful to level a theif fast but damage nerfs on sizes start to become annoying as an assassin.

I presently use DDTP Blade with an Ice pick for Geffenia 4 .

[DA~Kaitou]

Oh, I was thinking more-so as a thief. Wasn't thinking in a dual-wep way. Sounds good then.
(I've never put my DDTP on right hand. ):< )

[redhairweasel]

Well, a blade double attacks when you become an Assassin and hold a dagger in the other hnd. I suggested Blade because of the size reductions. A dagger has much more then a blade.
Blade bypasses some d amage nerfs on sizes as compared to daggers. Apart from that A Blade is a sword and you get mastery damage with a swordman on a sword.

MG is beneficial only to a rogue . Its helpful to level a theif fast but damage nerfs on sizes start to become annoying as an assassin.

I presently use DDTP Blade with an Ice pick for Geffenia 4 .

@OP

dont be confused with size reduction
if u use main gauche...u only lost 10 DAMAGE if u hit medium size monster...to me it's not that a big deal because will have more aspd with dagger
and on some map...u might want to use your DDTP on your right hand..so u can swap weapon better

[Razer]

Well, a blade double attacks when you become an Assassin and hold a dagger in the other hnd. I suggested Blade because of the size reductions. A dagger has much more then a blade.
Blade bypasses some d amage nerfs on sizes as compared to daggers. Apart from that A Blade is a sword and you get mastery damage with a swordman on a sword.

MG is beneficial only to a rogue . Its helpful to level a theif fast but damage nerfs on sizes start to become annoying as an assassin.

I presently use DDTP Blade with an Ice pick for Geffenia 4 .

@OP

dont be confused with size reduction
if u use main gauche...u only lost 10 DAMAGE if u hit medium size monster...to me it's not that a big deal because will have more aspd with dagger
and on some map...u might want to use your DDTP on your right hand..so u can swap weapon better

You can always use any katar to make switches with double weapons work perfectly