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Is BK that Great?

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Re: Is BK that Great?
« Reply #15 on: March 01, 2009, 09:41:49 pm »
maximize isnt needed only for maces but other weapons does

What do you mean? Maximize Power makes you hit the maximum damage you can hit on monsters, e.g., you hit 89, 93, 102 on a certain monster without it, with it you always hit the highest you can do, 102, 102, 102 etc. So every weapon used should benefit from it, but just not that great to let it drains your Sp constantly.

While Weapon Perfection makes you do 100% damage on all sizes.
       
       

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Re: Is BK that Great?
« Reply #16 on: March 01, 2009, 09:47:20 pm »
this is what i believe about dex min~max atk difference

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6)+1 minimum damage per point for melee weapons. If Dex exceeds the
  Atk value of the melee weapon, use the Atk of the melee weapon for
  the min value (ie. max and min values become the same).

so...no matter what weapon...if your dex is below weapon atk, (obviously with sam card in DBSS mace)
everyone need maximize power including mace.
so scolary...it's not that different if u dont use maximize power compare to those who use mace.
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Re: Is BK that Great?
« Reply #17 on: March 01, 2009, 09:47:52 pm »
Get a Myst Case Mid.
Of all the OBBs I got from Niff, I opened half of them and got expensive items such as Sunglasses[1].

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Re: Is BK that Great?
« Reply #18 on: March 01, 2009, 09:50:20 pm »
maces hits doesnt change so much on each damage numbers

but flail or chain does change a lot on each hit


reason is the refinement bonus doesnt apply on every hit i think and theres more difference between a +0 to a +10 chain/flail than a +0 to a +10 mace

hope i could explain it well =/



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its cause the gap between min and max atack you can get gets bigger with +10 level 2 or 3 weapons than just by a +10 level 1 weap
« Last Edit: March 01, 2009, 09:55:34 pm by balam »

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Re: Is BK that Great?
« Reply #19 on: March 01, 2009, 09:53:36 pm »
Get a Myst Case Mid.
Of all the OBBs I got from Niff, I opened half of them and got expensive items such as Sunglasses[1].

I thought Myst Case Card only gives normal Gift Boxes and Mimic Card gives OBBs...maybe I remember wrong since I never used it before. /heh
       
       

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Re: Is BK that Great?
« Reply #20 on: March 01, 2009, 09:54:47 pm »
have u compared DBS chain=149+refine atk and DBSS=167+refine?
or u test with non carded chain and mace?
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Re: Is BK that Great?
« Reply #21 on: March 01, 2009, 09:58:08 pm »
Get a Myst Case Mid.
Of all the OBBs I got from Niff, I opened half of them and got expensive items such as Sunglasses[1].

I thought Myst Case Card only gives normal Gift Boxes and Mimic Card gives OBBs...maybe I remember wrong since I never used it before. /heh
Oh yeah, my bad, forgot to mention that I got lots of OBBs from the Gift Boxes. xD

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Re: Is BK that Great?
« Reply #22 on: March 01, 2009, 10:02:33 pm »
yup i had a chain for a week or something.. made a DBzipper for ovb but didnt work out good then made it DBS and sold it

but the hits change a lot /ok

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Re: Is BK that Great?
« Reply #23 on: March 01, 2009, 10:07:05 pm »
So I should get a Myst case mid head then? Also does that mean I shouldn't bother with Maximize power?

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Re: Is BK that Great?
« Reply #24 on: March 01, 2009, 10:12:22 pm »
so u are saying samurai card doesnt give any effect to min~max atk
could be true

it only a matter of weapon atk, which almost every lvl 1 weapon dont have high attack compare to lvl 3
so i doubt axe[4] will have problem with min~max atk then

So I should get a Myst case mid head then? Also does that mean I shouldn't bother with Maximize power?
myst case is ok...i even slot into awe[1] where i said to myself "i still can make valk helm with it"
about maximize power...what kind of axe u use?
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Re: Is BK that Great?
« Reply #25 on: March 01, 2009, 10:16:00 pm »
@OP you can test it yourself, pay attention to the damage you do with and without Power Maximize. If you think the difference is small enough to ignore, then dont bother with it. Vise versa.
       
       

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Re: Is BK that Great?
« Reply #26 on: March 01, 2009, 10:23:28 pm »
so u are saying samurai card doesnt give any effect to min~max atk
could be true

it only a matter of weapon atk, which almost every lvl 1 weapon dont have high attack compare to lvl 3
so i doubt axe[4] will have problem with min~max atk then

So I should get a Myst case mid head then? Also does that mean I shouldn't bother with Maximize power?
myst case is ok...i even slot into awe[1] where i said to myself "i still can make valk helm with it"
about maximize power...what kind of axe u use?

+10 Axe [4] BSSD as carding.

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Re: Is BK that Great?
« Reply #27 on: March 01, 2009, 10:35:03 pm »
the min~max damage give no difference compare to mace DBSS
but u'll lose like 10 average damage because of size modifier (it only effect weapon, not card so it's not that much)
so rather than maximize power..u can use weapon perfection and u can see your damage is the same if u use mace but still not worth it
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Re: Is BK that Great?
« Reply #28 on: March 01, 2009, 10:37:37 pm »
the min~max damage give no difference compare to mace DBSS
but u'll lose like 10 average damage because of size modifier (it only effect weapon, not card so it's not that much)
so rather than maximize power..u can use weapon perfection and u can see your damage is the same if u use mace but still not worth it

But I already maxed out weapon perfection though. -_-; What else am I going to use the extra 5 skill points?

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Re: Is BK that Great?
« Reply #29 on: March 01, 2009, 10:46:27 pm »
What else you dont have? Finding Ore is great. But as a Blacksmith for nif you will surely have extra skill points since only a few skills are required for nif. I just randomly add them to some Merchant skills like Vending.  =x