Alternative IC without Kaho?

[Lilith Aileron]

I was just wandering if Ic or near instant IC can be achieved without Kaho. I was thinking of building a priest. Would two berz clips, nimble glove, hasty shoes, bloody butterfly give a priest a good cast time?

[redline5085]

No, without kaho you wont IC..

[shane3x]

There are 2 ways to get IC. Get a 100% cast reduction using cast reduction gears alone (Such as berz clips) or getting 150 dex using +X Dex gears alone. You cannot mix and match +X Dex gears with -% gears to get IC.

Apple of Archer is nice until kahos is affordable. Maybe see razer's guide if you need help zeny wise.

[Akishira]

Two berze, 99 dex and Bragi has been said to be effective? No idea how true this is currently.

[shane3x]

Two berze, 99 dex and Bragi has been said to be effective? No idea how true this is currently.

iirc that would work but bragi isn't usually a factor when considering getting IC since the person won't always have access to it unlike say a priest who has a +X Dex skill.

[Lilith Aileron]

Well I guess that would mean Kaho is a must for IC then since I cant really think of a way to get 100% cast reduction without bragi.

[shane3x]

Only saders and pallies are capable of 100% cast reduction without bragi.

[eimi]

just party with another priestess that will suffragium you maybe ~nyo^^

[Akishira]

Two berze, 99 dex and Bragi has been said to be effective? No idea how true this is currently.

iirc that would work but bragi isn't usually a factor when considering getting IC since the person won't always have access to it unlike say a priest who has a +X Dex skill.

Which is cheaper, a kaho or a bragi slave? ;p

[Ultra Violence]

You can get IC without a kaho as an archer class or a super novice.

[Ruhoho]

If you have 2 Berz and Bragi, you don't need any dex. Also, with Marionette Control you can get a +49 Dex bonus, which should make IC laughably easy.

[Lilith Aileron]

Not enough gypsies/clowns are around for Marionette Control and Bragi slave is very rare. I pretty much prefer a solo independent priest for IC since I train alone more often than not XP.

[Kyubey]

Not unless your a sniper/hunter you wont get near IC without a kaho.

[Nerkel]

Not unless your a sniper/hunter you wont get near IC without a kaho.

Instant cast is possible on a Supernovice without a kaho :]

[Souless_koji]

Not unless your a sniper/hunter you wont get near IC without a kaho.

Instant cast is possible on a Supernovice without a kaho :]

With items the 2 +5 dex cards and 2x sting clips a super can get ic at around lvl 60-70 and have about 30 int, If how ever you get over job 70 you can use the +10 to all stats supernovice buff + all the other novice buff's to get ic at around 85-90 base dex so at arounf lvl 80 you'll have an ic super that has enough int to do good damage in pvm.

So yes if you want an ic magic class without kahos then sn is your best chouse.