Niff Mace

[Sapphirion]

the difference of attack between a +10DBS chain and a +10DBSS mace is only 5 otherwise both r precisely the same thing a DBS chain would be best to buy for u [its 55m 10m less than dbss and 10m is really not worth 5 attack ]

[SinCityOrk]

Wait, are you saying that saving 10mil zeny is not worth an extra 5 atk?  Cause that's crazy.  Saving any amount of zeny is worth it.

[Varis]

Ummm... He's saying that it's not worth spending 10mil just for a 5 point increase in damage...

[balam]

with dbs chain youll be using maximize power to get the same constant damage and use GJ or stay with the damage variations and use none GJ

dbss mace you just dont need GJ unless you over spam skills

none GJ if you got kahos and maybe 15-20 base int


Edit:
so yeah you save a lot using a chain and is almost the same

[Razer]

If you have a total dex of 50 (with kahos+celebs +w/e) you wont require to ude perfection as well. I get top end damage in Niff with DSB Mjol w/o Maximize. Chain belongs to maces I think - I suppose nominal dex saves you from the job of Power MAximize anyway. I would highly recommend not to use axes as well. I do believe they have a size penalty and thats basically why you use Weapon Perfection with it as well. Maces hit 100% on everything. Mjolnir qualifies as a mace by its visible attributes . Its supposed to be a hammer but its a mace class.

[balam]

you wont really use dex for niff =/ would be a waste of stats, same goes for using celebs there
also i was talking about maximize power which drain the sp faster than it recovers, i always keep weapon perfection up using mace, i think only increases damage on little size monsters but meh or at least thats what i think

[Varis]

Maces hit 100% on everything.

Maces hit 100% on medium and large. They hit 75% on small.

[balam]

lol just checked too and you shouldn't be up to changing mjoll to axe for size modifiers unless you wanna spam weapon perfection always in woe
one more buff to dispell from WS's =P

axe does 50% on small, 75% medium, 100% large

[Razer]

Maces hit 100% on everything.

Maces hit 100% on medium and large. They hit 75% on small.

I see, didnt know , explains the low damage on misstress

[Varis]

Yeah, axes are worse than maces for weapon modifiers. I still want Mjolnir changed to be the same class as a Hamer. Either that, or change Hammers to be in the Mace category rather than the Axe category. I don't base my opinion on numbers, though. I base it on the fact that the SQI is named after Thor's hammer so it should be a hammer in the game. As far as I'm concerned, that's the end of the story. *shrug*

[Razer]

I doubt if its possible to change Hammer sprites into mace class from axe in Aegis. As far as axes go Djinn qualifies as an Axe so Axe is used - they cant have 2 Axe class SQIS I suppose judging that they make one of each class as a SQI.

Mjol Sprite is horrible but I wont sacrifice the damage from sprite Change

[SinCityOrk]

It's okay, I use Power maximize when i niff anyways, and I have about a twenty-twenty five Int to counter that.  My dex is low (only 20) and everything else is split between Vit and Str (with a slight bonus to Str). 

I'm also poor, so I don't have all the nice gears yet, such as Celebs, so those don't matter to me.  It's all good for me now, because I can borrow a DBSS mace until I have enough money to buy my own (or that one)

[SolBad-Kid]

isn't DBSS mace and DBS Mjol the best thing. Axes two slots i think so no tirfing/other shields. And mace cant break from the ws move max overthrust.

[Varis]

The 4-slotted Axe is 1-handed. Axes are also unbreakable, just like maces.