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Hitting 100 base defence?

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Hitting 100 base defence?
« on: May 14, 2008, 05:24:27 pm »
I post this asking for advice on how people do that? on mah ws w/ mainly overrefinned stuff and stuff of gud base defence to start w/ he only has like 65... so how the heck do you hit like 100 base defence?! is it even possible?


(no pcb on either... I just wanna rly know how u get into the 80's)

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Re: Hitting 100 base defence?
« Reply #1 on: May 14, 2008, 10:51:46 pm »
if you have kahos or some kind of headgear 10+(with kahos its 16)  armor lets say glittering jacket i forgot defense 10+ with a garm card 10+ then a muff or some type of garment 10+ then pcb 5+ then shield or somthing 10+ and shoes 10+ or boots it be a lot of def. BAsically would be a total of 45+ bonus plus w/e def you have on wat gear you using wit a garm card or a bk card or something (LoD would be vit and some def also on garment but most likely have raydric or devi in there)
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Re: Hitting 100 base defence?
« Reply #2 on: May 15, 2008, 12:39:41 am »
overupped gears to +9 or even +10 remember that per upgrade its not +1 def per refine but +0.67 def reaching 100 base def with universal armors is near impossible unless ur freakishly rich the cheaper way is for swordie class only armor.

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Re: Hitting 100 base defence?
« Reply #3 on: May 15, 2008, 01:11:38 am »
Only a LK or Pally can reach that kind of defence and you'd probably need Bryss for more defence.

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Re: Hitting 100 base defence?
« Reply #4 on: May 15, 2008, 04:21:10 am »
100 DEF in status screen is equal to about 67.7 real DEF.

Obtaining 100 real DEF is doable, but it wouldn't be too smart.

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Re: Hitting 100 base defence?
« Reply #5 on: May 15, 2008, 04:27:59 am »
Only a LK or Pally can reach that kind of defence and you'd probably need Bryss for more defence.
exactly meaning freakishly rich

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Re: Hitting 100 base defence?
« Reply #6 on: May 15, 2008, 04:43:40 am »
overupped gears to +9 or even +10 remember that per upgrade its not +1 def per refine but +0.67 def reaching 100 base def with universal armors is near impossible unless ur freakishly rich the cheaper way is for swordie class only armor.
i thought it was 0,7% defence :o like a percentage of ur vit defence or w/e XD
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Re: Hitting 100 base defence?
« Reply #7 on: May 15, 2008, 04:44:44 am »
its actually 0.666667 i just rounded it up :P

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Re: Hitting 100 base defence?
« Reply #8 on: May 15, 2008, 04:51:19 am »
oh lol XD
but issit a % or isnt it? cuz in ratemyserver.net it said soemthing like 0,7%..well k 0,6666667 then XD but what kinda % issit then? >< % damage reduction? that much % of ur vit defence extra? i dun understand XD
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Re: Hitting 100 base defence?
« Reply #9 on: May 15, 2008, 04:53:37 am »
it means that only 2/3 of actual refine gets added meaning if u have a +10 its actual defense addition would be about 7 def

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Re: Hitting 100 base defence?
« Reply #10 on: May 15, 2008, 05:11:49 am »
In the status screen your DEF is divided into two parts. For example 45+58.
The left hand part of that is your armor DEF that reduces damage by percentage. The actual number of the armor DEF is: DEF from armor+Upgrades*2/3.
For example let's say you have a +7 Formal suit. The true DEF is 5+7*2/3=9.666666.....
So if you have 10 armor DEF and you get hit by an atatck that would deal 100 damage toyou. The armor DEF would reduce this damage by 10%. So rather then 100 damage you'd get 90 damage.

The right hand part is your VIT DEF. Whcih comes from how much VIT you have, this aprt of DEF reduces damage by numbers. For example 58 VIT DEF would reduce the damage by 58 points. So if you get hit by an attack hat would deal 100 damage, your VIT def would lower it down to 42 damage.

From these two armor DEF is far superior to VIT DEF. Since often you'äll be tkaing hits that would deal 1000 or 5000 damage. And having a good armor DEF can reduce these considerably. While VIT DEF only chops off few points from them.
Also DEF can never reduce damage below 1 point.

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Re: Hitting 100 base defence?
« Reply #11 on: May 15, 2008, 06:53:54 am »
In the status screen your DEF is divided into two parts. For example 45+58.
The left hand part of that is your armor DEF that reduces damage by percentage. The actual number of the armor DEF is: DEF from armor+Upgrades*2/3.
For example let's say you have a +7 Formal suit. The true DEF is 5+7*2/3=9.666666.....
So if you have 10 armor DEF and you get hit by an atatck that would deal 100 damage toyou. The armor DEF would reduce this damage by 10%. So rather then 100 damage you'd get 90 damage.

The right hand part is your VIT DEF. Whcih comes from how much VIT you have, this aprt of DEF reduces damage by numbers. For example 58 VIT DEF would reduce the damage by 58 points. So if you get hit by an attack hat would deal 100 damage, your VIT def would lower it down to 42 damage.

From these two armor DEF is far superior to VIT DEF. Since often you'äll be tkaing hits that would deal 1000 or 5000 damage. And having a good armor DEF can reduce these considerably. While VIT DEF only chops off few points from them.
Also DEF can never reduce damage below 1 point.
yeah thats what i thought, now i know for sure, thank you ;D
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