If the bio had the times as he/she claimed, then that falls under my "he/she had the time for them and was looking for it" explanation. Granted, he/she shouldn't have taken your AK.. maybe he/she didn't know what kind of monster it was?
He thought we had the time and made some witty remarks about it. AFAIK there were no MVPs in Geffen at that time
Though, I don't share your definition. Your definition, in fact, is why I *strongly* support implementing and following the official randomized spawn timers, and I hope they will be implemented for all MVPs (not just the new ones, which - thank God - have them) in the new episode.
Also, there have been plenty of times I've hit Garm, the mob hasn't spawned and I tele away before it hits me. So, I really don't know the accuracy of that last statement.
It is accurate; there was a lengthy discussion on eAthena about how to implement the Convex Mirror item and how Aegis does it, with people from iRO testing it. If you keep your eyes open, you'll probably the spawning thing yourself too. If you've seen Garm mobless though, it confirms the statement, because Garm spawns his mob with 100% chance in its idle state, which means that you whould never see him without his mob if the statement were false.
There's also the, "What if another lower-level character stumbled upon it first, causing the mob to spawn?" such as in TF, where there are a lot of lower-level characters who die on SK. So, because his mob is spawned, I should just sit there and see if someone else was going after him first?
I believe you're missing the point. My point was that there *are* situtation where you *know* for sure that you were the first person to see an MVP.
(Also, may try not to full quote - full quotes look ugly, and if this reply is full quoted, it'll probably make the thread explode with text)
Thing is Bios are being generalised as the* evil hide behind ice wall and ADers*.
Yes, this is because usually that's what happens. I won't even say *evil hide behind the ice wall*, because they'll bomb as well if they see your party using resources and taking effort and risks tanking an MVP, to get a cheap kill; or just an ego boost out of the fact that they can make damage numbers fly faster than, eg. a crusader (non-trans) with GC and no holy armor.
Those who play their bios professionally (as in, not just acting completely brainless and actually having it a long-term character with reputation and so on) probably suffer from this generalisation created by the hundreds of noob (bought) creators that only know "Acid Demonstration" and are completely obliviant to any alchemist skills .. because they never
were alchemists. It's quite interesting to see creators starting to smack IWs or even AD them (I mean, wth, is AD the solution to everything!) when they have a merchant skill (I believe) that would likely do the job much better.
I dont think HW are saints - the very reason that spam useless cie wall to lag and DC is a cheap tactic. Though MVP loots are FFA - there are certain HW who are well below lowly as per ethics go.
No, they're not, I never stated they are. There are enough asses for HWs as well. When we're tanking a Bloody Knight (again same scenario, non-trans, crusader) and a 99 HW with PCB tries to steal it for .. what again? - then that's a pretty low move. Relating to Tori's it'scompetition!! - that's like seeing a local race (=worthless mvp) with all eight year olds ("non-trans") and you're joining in as a 22 year old (trans ;P) after winnning several (inter)national races (level99, you won't get anything out of it) to show them how you'll pwn them. Yeah, you're gonna win, and you're going to be soooo great when you receive the Brigan it drops.*
*) we won, since we had a two lap headstart. and how do you make your text smaller than size=1? <.<I would say complaining is justified if the wizard IWs to loot when they haven't done anything out of the ordinary. However, when they've killed both Garms and are pounding damage into SK, and then someone comes, conveniently stands behind *their* IW to simply click "Acid Demonstration" four times, then that's hardly nothing. These are essentially very different ways (if you relate the amount of work and risk in that scenario) of killing that MVP, and it's not like the wizard wouldn't have been able to kill SK. They already stole the EXP (whilst cheaply abusing the wizard's work), at least leave the poor bugger the loots. Stealing the EXP, making use of the work of others and then also wanting to loot them, now that's just greedy. That is why in this case, I support the view of the wizard. If you want your MVP, at least do some work, have some dignity. Don't use the IW, face SK and bomb him, while walking him around. You'd get the loots then anyway, but standing behind the IW and rubbing it in their face just pushes it
But yeah, not limited to a single class, if that's what you were driving at. I simply mentioning these classes because they're the classes that were involved in this complaint The cheap tactic wasn't even in question; the whole thing is more about the hypocrisy of crying "they're MVP-loot stealing" (fully aware they were stealing the loots) when "they're MVP-kill stealing" (fully aware they were going to steal the MVP).
