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why our community its getting lower?

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Auurium

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Re: why our community its getting lower?
« Reply #120 on: July 29, 2011, 10:35:49 am »
so true, just look at bg - when one side wins some members of the other team rush to their side to win :s
Yep, I got picked on when I tried joining the winning side so had to go back on the losing side. From all the times of playing bg I've probably wasted so many pots and some edp when I could've made some zeny with 'em >:(

I've blowed millions in pots too on my Pally for BG. XD

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Re: why our community its getting lower?
« Reply #121 on: July 29, 2011, 11:00:21 am »
The number of people in a single guild should be lowered to reflect the server pop.  Not drastically, just to maybe 30-50.  Alliances should be disabled altogether since they don't do anything for the ally anyway (which would prevent another Grand Lethal from forming, for those of you not old enough to remember GL was FOUR FULL GUILDS all allied together).
I agree with this. This server used to have a 1-2k population, correct? A 76 cap was important for then because there were enough players. Now the population has dropped, and the server needs to change accordingly.
Problem is, the big guilds already have 76 members, so cuts will need to be made on their part, and that's never fair for the new guy to get kicked out.
Alliances have always been a tricky discussion that I've always been on the fence about. If two guilds are dominating everything, the other guilds get sick of losing and either join, quit woe, or quit all together. If this is happening, something needs done.

Furthermore, the majority of RO vets looking to join a new server are woe and pvp based. They want intense woe. They want to be able to build up to woe fast, and then they can work on their endgame gear. Maybe we can try to make woe a little better here?
Things we've used in the past to get woe going were modifying the treasure box drops, not to anything OPd, but to useable items that the whole server loved. There was motivation to woe again, because you could get something out of it.

Since these players want to be able to woe as fast as they can, they want BG. I've had countless players join the server, find out BG wasn't enabled, and leave on the spot. You guys DO have BG, now it's time to spice it up so people want to play for the rewards and get that woe gear. Right now the participation in BG is limited to an hour or so after woe.
I'm sure these SQIs are fun and everything, but that's endgame. You don't need SQIs to level or have fun.

Another thing that could help the server at the same time, and give the new players a preview, is rentable SQIs. No one is going to want to pay out $5 a day for an SQI, but it's great to give them a feeling of what they are working for.  Another benefit is vet players can rent them just to try out the SQIs they don't have, and see if they'd like to buy one.

Another thing is most everyone I've talked to seems to think you need to have IC to play. This is certainly not the case, I purposefully don't have IC just because the gear slots I would have to use to get it can be used by more efficient gear. This whole misconception needs cleaned up.

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Re: why our community its getting lower?
« Reply #122 on: July 29, 2011, 11:10:10 am »
Reading more and more about this topic just makes me want to travel back around 2007. Wake up in the morning, double clicking to start animaro, looking at the population (1k+), sigh...

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Re: why our community its getting lower?
« Reply #123 on: July 29, 2011, 12:37:43 pm »
Oh of course they think you need IC and that its near impossible to start without good gears and a freaking cookie cutter build. Sure why learn what your class has to offer when you can just do the saaaaaaame thing everyone else is doing. Because like, EVERYONES doing it, it MUST be the way to go right!? What we need is for the vets to back off the newbies with their personal beliefs that 'you cant be a good RO player without an SQI' how many freaking times have i heard that? SQI's kinda suck as an end game 'cuz they're so easy to get. I agree with Auu... make the arena a serious pain in the ass to get through. make it barely passable by those even with great gear...

Having rental SQI's is ble, (i'm going to get soooooo much shit for saying this) i think SQI's just need to go. A buncha the newbies i've talked to are SO intimidated by the gear and feel so pressed like they HAVE to get the stuff or they cant do shit... but... thats like, a major part of the server -.-; obviously it's one of the things we offer FOR people to join the server so ya thats not exactly even an option to take the things out. At the very least Nerf the hell out of them.

As far as WOE, they were going to reduce the guilds to 54 (or whatever it was) again but... something funy happened i think and it didn't work? (i just remember something was weird when they tried to do it) seriously the big guilds OP everything 'cuz of their size... not skill. Ya ya the champs asura, the Wiz SG, the priests heal, so on like a happy little lame family... some of these classes have insane skills that barely anyone uses. or some classes are barely used at all. Thats why i play a ninja... how many do yousee in WOE compared to champs or sinx? its been what... 2-3 months since i started WOEing almost every time and people are FINALLY learning how to kill me. Reducing the size again doesn't quite cut it... as the bigger guilds just make alts and ally themselves. I would agree, making cooler shit from the treasure chests would be more enticing.... but theres still the issue of the bigger guilds still being OP to the little ones. LI is amazing me with what i've seen them do. At time they move as 1 unit and hold the emp room like champions.

doesn't matter what you do to reduce the guilds or whatever in WOE... if you REALLY want  smaller guilds and not just 3 allied ones, disable ally... make it so you can actually hurt your allies. (again i know i'm going to get a ton of shit for this one) that at the very least forces the guilds to split up more....

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Re: why our community its getting lower?
« Reply #124 on: July 29, 2011, 12:55:33 pm »
SQIs kinda failed as an end-game weapon. Just look at officials GQI's (God Quest Item), now THOSE are hard to get (ya need a castle, guild, a lot of people and crazy ings that only woe castles treasures drop).

Edit cause I have another thing to say:

Thats why guilds have fierce fights in officials, WoE actually got a purpose, someone of them even pick castles and defend them JUST for that GQI ing. Allies included. Obviously GMs switch castles more frequently than here to make GQIs possible (not all castles are always open at once). Renewal kinda fucked up their WoE system strategies though, but that's another story.
« Last Edit: July 29, 2011, 01:12:40 pm by Auurium »

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Re: why our community its getting lower?
« Reply #125 on: July 29, 2011, 03:03:48 pm »
i agreeeee
そんな 退屈なフリして
今は 気分じゃないとか きっと キミは言うけど     
ホントは そうじゃない
どうだっていいみたい感じ
不器用な表情も好きだよ

みんながいる前では いつだってそう 
まるで機嫌悪いみたい
こんなやつって態度して
見えない角度で手をつないできた

絶対的な信頼と 対照的な行動
絶望的な運命が ある日恋に変わる
一方的な表現の ツンデレーション
キミが 好き わかりにくいね
Please don't try to lecture me on wizards any further. I played one since they were introduced.

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aone

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Re: why our community its getting lower?
« Reply #126 on: July 29, 2011, 03:41:47 pm »
So many soapboxes. Not enough walls.
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Katakana

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Re: why our community its getting lower?
« Reply #127 on: July 29, 2011, 03:45:25 pm »
i dont understand? D:
そんな 退屈なフリして
今は 気分じゃないとか きっと キミは言うけど     
ホントは そうじゃない
どうだっていいみたい感じ
不器用な表情も好きだよ

みんながいる前では いつだってそう 
まるで機嫌悪いみたい
こんなやつって態度して
見えない角度で手をつないできた

絶対的な信頼と 対照的な行動
絶望的な運命が ある日恋に変わる
一方的な表現の ツンデレーション
キミが 好き わかりにくいね
Please don't try to lecture me on wizards any further. I played one since they were introduced.

kthxbai

aone

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Re: why our community its getting lower?
« Reply #128 on: July 29, 2011, 03:59:12 pm »
sarcasm \o.o/  /sleep deprivation
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Avarie

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Re: why our community its getting lower?
« Reply #129 on: July 29, 2011, 04:19:22 pm »
You mean not enough hills to drive them down.
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aone

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Re: why our community its getting lower?
« Reply #130 on: July 29, 2011, 04:36:49 pm »
Wouldn't that be gms ???
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Re: why our community its getting lower?
« Reply #131 on: July 29, 2011, 05:48:51 pm »
I thought we were being sarcastic?
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Katakana

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Re: why our community its getting lower?
« Reply #132 on: July 29, 2011, 05:51:49 pm »
*scratches brain*
そんな 退屈なフリして
今は 気分じゃないとか きっと キミは言うけど     
ホントは そうじゃない
どうだっていいみたい感じ
不器用な表情も好きだよ

みんながいる前では いつだってそう 
まるで機嫌悪いみたい
こんなやつって態度して
見えない角度で手をつないできた

絶対的な信頼と 対照的な行動
絶望的な運命が ある日恋に変わる
一方的な表現の ツンデレーション
キミが 好き わかりにくいね
Please don't try to lecture me on wizards any further. I played one since they were introduced.

kthxbai

aone

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Re: why our community its getting lower?
« Reply #133 on: July 29, 2011, 05:59:32 pm »
I got lost. :(
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Avarie

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Re: why our community its getting lower?
« Reply #134 on: July 29, 2011, 06:03:16 pm »
Me too =[
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