Twin Fang + Valk Crit Build Vs. IcePick,CombatKnife SBK Build

[katadama]

@walts, my first TF was a DTT, i hated it, was crap, after using DPPP spec jur had so much agi and no vit died really easily against mvp mobs. DDT really helped me more since with the huge amounts of hp, and was able to take on mvp mobs.

Youdoinitwrong.
I rarely died almost on all MVP(minus high tier),usually done it without EDP. Elemental/status armor swap 

NO U D:

i hated DTT had to run agi, hated agi, never gets anywhere in mvps or woe.

[Walts]

@walts, my first TF was a DTT, i hated it, was crap, after using DPPP spec jur had so much agi and no vit died really easily against mvp mobs. DDT really helped me more since with the huge amounts of hp, and was able to take on mvp mobs.

Youdoinitwrong.
I rarely died almost on all MVP(minus high tier),usually done it without EDP. Elemental/status armor swap 

NO U D:

i hated DTT had to run agi, hated agi, never gets anywhere in mvps or woe.

how do you have low vit? i can understand a DPPP, because a TF adds agi to your build and were you using an osiris clip? thats an extra 7 agi, i can run like 70ish vit on my Sinx and have 22-25k HP with a DTT at 310 Flee =(

[katadama]

@walts, my first TF was a DTT, i hated it, was crap, after using DPPP spec jur had so much agi and no vit died really easily against mvp mobs. DDT really helped me more since with the huge amounts of hp, and was able to take on mvp mobs.

Youdoinitwrong.
I rarely died almost on all MVP(minus high tier),usually done it without EDP. Elemental/status armor swap 

NO U D:

i hated DTT had to run agi, hated agi, never gets anywhere in mvps or woe.

how do you have low vit? i can understand a DPPP, because a TF adds agi to your build and were you using an osiris clip? thats an extra 7 agi, i can run like 70ish vit on my Sinx and have 22-25k HP with a DTT at 310 Flee =(

its been almost a year and a half since i played sinX on aRO. ran so much agi and str and enough luk to use crit didn't really have that many points to put into vit plus i wasn't rly as rich. TF does put agi into your build but i rly dont like to run agi, like vit more since it hlps me survive more. i guess i just prefer vit over agi. plus when i did sinX vs sinX duel agi rly never did help cause they had DDPP or TF so agi is pretty useless, other classes can freeze you then SC/Spiral alot of skills, and agi really isn't going to help you when frozen or some other status effect. may save you the hits but i'm used to switching and reducing everything so i'll stick with DDT/DDV/TTT, DTT isn't rly my style, plus 90% of the time i'm usually the tank on sinX since i can run a good 55k-60k hp on sinX and having DTT rly wont hlp me fight back. so i stick with DDT and with valk helm and bris it gives me like 1+56 agi so thats enough for me.

[Lander]

TF for woe, daggers for pvp

That is not as true anymore with the new items released.

what items make daggers do more damage to people in woe?

[XsuperbikeX]

with TF+valk helm thats pretty cheap. kinda easy to switch since its 2h hand wep could just carry another TF

daggers....ehhhh gotta go crazy with your switching and +9 IP cost like waa 210-240m last time i saw, +9/+10 CK idk (you said you dont mind grinding at niff), then going armor crazy with all these different types of armors, and switching them and your weapons it'll drive you insane and may cause you to lose here and there. while TF is pretty easy switching and since its DDT you already have 190 with concentration pot. either get alot of vit or alot of str or even out str/vit with TF. so ya TF for the poor, daggers for the rich? thats how i see it. katars easy switching while daggers will drive you insane. and not true to katar for woe and daggers for pvp. you can always get DDT and DDV and still do well in pvp

yea true about the crazy ass armor/dagger switching.  and the cost of getting a +9 IP and +9 CK is probably gonna go higher than the TF[DDT].

so basically the main stats for the build will have a lot of luck? decent amount of str, enough agi for 190 and rest in vit right?
im aiming for at least 24k hp.

dunno -,_,- i ran 75-80 str then more with bris of counter and meg, around like 24+56 agi and 40-50 luk and rest on vit. i dont like flee its gay D: shit dont work out in woe since your getting ganged by like 10-20 people and its fair, good thing we can pot and ygg. but i ran like 35-49k hp, always kept devi, with tao or GR on. i carried around DDT and TTT cause valk card never existed back then

use wild valk helm, wild ewe, pcb, a couple of armors, maybe a toad valk if you get wep stripped, raydric/devi/noxcious/dustiness/marse garment, DL sleips, kobold bris/meg/nice to keep berz bris too. use DDT, dun use DTT ~_~ you need more vit in woe not agi, pvp wise? everyone gangs now so w/e fck agi. DTT was so completely useless, had to run like 60 agi to get 190 what a waste of points. really hard to say, theres so many different builds with sinX and so many different ways you can do it, test things out, read threads about sinX on other servers, learn different builds.

yea im thinking about DDT or just DDD cus of slow grace.  which pisses the shit out of me lol.  but that turtle general card can come in handy for defending and what not.  im aiming a bit for the DDD lol.
we'll see.

so for stats just get between 70-80 STR.
enough agi for 190.
good vit for 25k+ hp.
no dex.  and basically how much luck do i need to start doing all crits? (or crit rate)

also "Wild Valk Helm" means its got a Gyphron Card right? and are there any other gears necessary for luck/crits?  otherwise im keeping the +9 immune and DL Sleips