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Niff Mobber

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tayjason73

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Niff Mobber
« on: April 02, 2009, 11:29:57 am »
I got a question,I am a WS,and i always goes to niff to earn zeny.Recently i always see few BS and WS during mobbing.Now the question are,

1) if they don't control their mobs well and the mobs turn to me,am i consider KS?
2) Is there any safety distance between players, because sometime ppls claim that i follow them
    too near?

honestly sometime i return the mobs to them back,but sometime ppls don't know how to talk nicely so i kill the mobs myself,am i consider KSing??Want to find out first B4 someone report me from KSing.....

Thanks
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Re: Niff Mobber
« Reply #1 on: April 02, 2009, 01:27:00 pm »
I got a question,I am a WS,and i always goes to niff to earn zeny.Recently i always see few BS and WS during mobbing.Now the question are,

1) if they don't control their mobs well and the mobs turn to me,am i consider KS?
2) Is there any safety distance between players, because sometime ppls claim that i follow them
    too near?

honestly sometime i return the mobs to them back,but sometime ppls don't know how to talk nicely so i kill the mobs myself,am i consider KSing??Want to find out first B4 someone report me from KSing.....

Thanks
It is NOT KSing if their mob flows to you, unless you are intentially trying to take their mob (like following too close behind them). One key thing I used to do was if I see someone approaching I just stop and wait for them to move by, generally idiots don't know how to safetly move a mob around people, and if you are just sitting there, they will generally move to you. During this I keep my fingers generally ready to take a screen shot if the jerk is so coldblooded to try to take his mob back by force (in which lies the KSing). You are KSing if you try to take your mob back by force, if you lose your mob just learn how to not lose your mob and get on with your life. If its a huge deal politely ask for it back (within reason if they had a huuuge mob and you lost 2 dullahans, don't bother, just keep moving).

Also if you are a jerk who sneaks up behind people trying to take my mob I generally write your name down and make sure to keep a finger to screen shot your KSing ass (its really hard to catch these jerks as they can be out of your screen to steal)
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Re: Niff Mobber
« Reply #2 on: April 02, 2009, 01:33:05 pm »
If you are just standing there or their mob is out of control and flying off everywhere and runs to you, it's generally fine to keep going if they didn't lose many monsters and it was an accident.  You can try to return them or FW if they lost more monsters than you had (like if you only had 1-3 things following you), especially if they turn around to try to get some back, but you don't really have to since it's not your fault you were just standing there.  If the player just runs off, they probably don't care enough to make a big deal out of it, but try to avoid doing it again if you were moving, too (if you were just standing there, don't worry about it - it would look more like they were trying to MPK you).

It is good to apologize if they do get upset about it.
If they harass you about it afterward, you become the person who can report if you already apologized and it was an accident.  They should keep better control of their monsters if they want to keep them instead of throwing them onto random players and yelling at them for just being there.

... but if you're following someone close enough that their monsters change target onto you even though they were definitely following that person, that is considered stealing monsters and is reportable on multiple offenses last I recall.  It is much easier to screen shot, too.

Crashing into other players is an accident and depends on how stingy the two players are.  If a lot of their monsters run onto me, I'd try to return them or FW - but I kind of wait to see what the other person does so long as I'm on a character who can live through a small wait.
As long as you hit your monsters before they lost their monsters on you it should be relatively easy to return them since you didn't hit theirs, right?

You're just not required to return them if it's their fault they lost their monsters.
Like above though, I would not take back monsters if they start hitting someone else and just move on.
I believe that's how it is more or less.

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« Last Edit: April 02, 2009, 01:40:59 pm by Aena »

tayjason73

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Re: Niff Mobber
« Reply #3 on: April 02, 2009, 09:15:30 pm »
1) As what u mention that do not follow player too close, how close is close?
2) Sometime is because of the player walk too fast and left the mobs too far away and happen that i walk pass there, is also consider steal mobs?
3) If their mobs fly to me and if the person do know how to ask nicely i will sure return them the mobs, But it seem like very diffcult to find players that will talk nicely.

To me the niff mobs will never end, i just want to enjoy the game, leech mine own chars and earn some zeny. That all.  ;D
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Re: Niff Mobber
« Reply #4 on: April 02, 2009, 10:33:56 pm »
Too close is close enough that their monsters stop following them and run to you.  That will make it look like you're trying to steal them on purpose.

If they left the mobs because they ran off too fast instead of waiting for their monsters it's not really something people report, but it could be considered monster stealing if you're following them too close like above.  It probably will not look like MPK.  Some people can't actually tank all the monsters they're collecting so they can't just slow down to wait for everything to catch up (though those are usually Priests and they could technically Sanctuary the monsters to keep them following - but not all priests have Mistress or the Blue Gemstone weight to spare) or are being overambitious.  They should just kill the monsters on the spot, but people are greedy and all or like the challenge.
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Usually just remember if a player responds to you negatively to be sure to avoid running into them or their monsters again and remember how they feel about mobs.  One accident like this will generally not get you in trouble.  More than one person reporting will, though, and running into someone more than once and doing this can, too.
« Last Edit: April 02, 2009, 10:35:36 pm by Aena »

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« Reply #5 on: April 03, 2009, 07:00:19 am »
I will rememer what u mention, but sometime it really annoy  >:( me is when the mobber run too fast and left the mobs too far behind,and just happen u walk pass and their mobs turn to u, it doesn't mean u ks their mobs, and if that person ask in nice way i will retun them the mobs or else i am sorry, Since as a mobber u should know how well u can control ur's mobs or else don't mob too big.
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Re: Niff Mobber
« Reply #6 on: April 03, 2009, 10:12:04 am »
Since as a mobber u should know how well u can control ur's mobs

^ golden rule on nif, if you dont intend to be a troll and mpk/ks ppl. if you can control your mob, you should have no probs
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« Reply #7 on: April 03, 2009, 11:22:54 am »
Knowing how close is to close comes with experience.
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« Reply #8 on: April 04, 2009, 04:02:51 pm »
Hope that the niff mobbers will know too
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