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AnesisRO => AnesisRO TV => Topic started by: Linmakana on August 10, 2010, 02:19:28 am

Title: Linmakana's Advanced AnimusRO Recording Guide [Major Update! v2.0]
Post by: Linmakana on August 10, 2010, 02:19:28 am
Linmakana's Advanced AnimusRO Recording Guide v2.0

(http://i.imgur.com/nllNH.png)

Check out this guide in action here:
(http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/4288/animusroyoutube.png) (http://www.AnimusRO.com/forums/index.php/topic,92742.0/topicseen.html)


This guide is for people looking for a free and easy method to save and share their greatest moments in aRO, or record their gaming in general.

(http://a.imageshack.us/img17/9681/mealsmenunew.png)Fraps (http://img821.imageshack.us/img821/971/frapslogo.png)
How To Frap and Upload to YouTube

Disclaimer: Please Read!
This guide is for people who have experience with computers and have newer hard-drives (couple hundred gigabytes should do). Fraps saves its AVI files in the best quality, semi-uncompressed. Because it is mostly untouched, the files become insanely large. A 50 second video might become 1+ gigabytes in size. I would highly recommend using an alternate (2nd) hard-drive dedicated for file storage, but if you don't it's fine.

Things You Will Need To Download
  • uTorrent here (http://www.utorrent.com/). (Unlike HyperCam, Fraps is not free so you'll need to PM me for the torrent)
  • VirtualDub here (http://virtualdub.sourceforge.net/)
  • x264 H.264 Codec here (http://komisar.gin.by/) (The download link for 32-bit and 64-bit Windows are under VFW)
    (http://img30.imageshack.us/img30/8335/komisarx264builds.png)

Step 1: PM (http://www.AnimusRO.com/forums/index.php?action=pm;sa=send;u=14222) me to get the link to the Fraps 3 Torrent.

Step 2: Go to the "Movies" tab on Fraps and set the Frames Per Second to 30 FPS and uncheck 'Lock Framerate', if it's checked. (Try out different framerates if you want, I feel 30 is good for me)

Step 3: Select where you want the recorded files to be saved (Pretty self-explanatory)

Step 3.5: Check 'Record Sound' and 'Detect best sound input'

By now your Fraps movie tab should look somewhat like mine:
(http://img683.imageshack.us/img683/6646/capture07022011210412.png)

Step 4: Open up AnimusRO. You should see a yellow FPS counter in the top left hand corner of the screen. (You can change where the FPS counter is/remove it under the FPS tab.)

Step 5: Hit the HotKey that you set which starts recording your video (can be changed in Movies tab) I set mine as \ because I rarely use it, and the aRO client doesn't either.

Step 6: The yellow FPS counter should turn red which indicates recording.

Step 7: When you are done doing whatever you need to do, hit the HotKey again to stop recording.

Step 8: Now go to the folder or directory that you chose to save your recording. It should be there.

Step 9: Open up the file with VirtualDub.

Step 10: Navigate to Video->Compression or just hit Ctrl+P.

Step 11: Select x264vfw - H.264/MPEG-4 AVC codec.
(http://img824.imageshack.us/img824/4330/capture07022011210747.png)

Step 12: Click the Configure button. Now this is the part where most people will get lost. Pay close attention.

Step 13: Inside the main tab, select Multipass - 1st Pass and move the Target Bitrate to about 3000~4000.
Note, higher bitrate = larger file size = better video quality. Lower bitrate = smaller file size = inferior quality.

Step 14: Set the AVC level to 5.1 and the FourCC to H264.

Your x264 window should look something like this:
(http://img190.imageshack.us/img190/1894/capture28022011174723.png)

Step 15: Press okay.

Step 16: Press okay.

Subsection - Adding an Audio track:
Want some music instead of the normal aRO sound effects?
Navigate to Audio->Audio from another file and select your music. If a window comes up, select 'Autodetect'.
You can alter the volume from 'Volume' and change the delay/advance in 'Interleaving'

Step 17: Go to File->Save as AVI (or press F7). Find a location to save your new file and hit okay.

Step 18: Wait a while, if you're not multi-tasking of if you have a strong proccessor, set the Proccessing Thread Priority to "Highest" to encode it slightly faster.

IMPORTANT - Nth Pass:
x264 records some important data when it encodes your AVI for the first time. That is the 'Multipass - 1st Pass' function in the configuration window.
To utilize that data and optimize your video, go back to the configuration and change 'Multipass - 1st Pass' to 'Multipass - Nth Pass' after saving+encoding the first time (using Multipass - 1st Pass)
Save your AVI file again (using Multipass - Nth Pass), and it will re-encode it using the data recorded from the first pass.

Step 19: The file size should be drastically reduced yet quality remain extremely similar.

Step 17: Go to www.youtube.com and logon if you have an account. (If you don't, then make one)

Step 18: Click on the "Upload" link on the top right corner.

Step 19: Locate the encoded AVI file and start uploading.

Step 20: While you wait, you can fill in the information (Title, Description, Tags, etc)

Step 21: Copy your video URL to share. If you uploaded in YouTube HD (Explained in the FAQ section below), you may need to wait a few minutes for YouTube to finish processing the quality.

PM me or post here if you have any problems.

By Linmakana

HyperCam  (http://a.imageshack.us/img685/9484/logonof.jpg)
HyperCam 2 download link here (http://www.hyperionics.com/hc/).

I would not recommend using HyperCam to record aRO with x264 encoding. Since HyperCam encodes while simultaneously recording your screen, your computer will be much more slower and therefore negatively affect aRO gameplay. If you have some super-high tier CPU, you can try using HyperCam.

I will not walk you through the HyperCam setup, but it is simplistic enough to figure out on your own.
For the H.264 setup, use the steps from the Fraps guide.

Frequently Asked Questions(http://img833.imageshack.us/img833/3789/hycwredquestionmark32x.png)
  • I have Fraps and the aRO client open, but I don't see any yellow FPS marker! What is wrong?
    Fraps is a bit strange on how it selects windows to record from. An easy way to check if it has aRO selected is to alt-tab to a smaller window (such as the Fraps setup). The yellow FPS counter should appear in the aRO client and then disappear once you switch focus to the window.

  • When I was finished recording I went to the folder that I saved the AVIs in and my movie was split into two (or more) AVI files! What is wrong and how do I combine them in VirtualDub?
    Fraps uses an outdated format for it's AVI files, so each file can only be a maximum of 3.90 GB. Open up the first AVI in VirtualDub. Then navigate to File->Append AVI segment and select the next AVI file. This will add the selected AVI file to the end of the first one. Repeat for any other segments.

  • How do I record for YouTube 720p High Definition?
    So this one is a bit more complicated. First off, you need a minimum monitor resolution of 1280x720 or larger. I would recommend using a larger resolution.
    Download ROExt from here: http://www.ratemyserver.net/forum/downloads/roext-mouse-freedom-and-some-tweaks/0/ and stick it in your aRO folder. Overwrite files if necessary.
    Go to your aRO folder and open the file named dinput.ini. Find and modify the following lines to:

    WindowLock = 1

    WindowWidth = 1280   
    WindowHeight = 720

    Now when you open your client, your top and side borders should disappear. Continue to record as normal. When you're finished, open your AVI file in VirtualDub. Notice anything different? If you are using a higher resolution than 1280x720, you should be able to see whatever was behind your aRO client behind the window. To cut off these unwanted parts, open the AVI with VirtualDub and navigate to Video->Filters->Add. Select 'null transform' from the list and hit okay. Select the 'null transform' with the checkmark next to it and press Cropping. In this window, drag the sides of the video unti your total size if 1280x720 around the aRO client. If you lack fine motor skills, use the offset buttons for preciseness. Hit okay until you get to the main VirtualDub window.

  • Is there any way I can encode my videos faster?
    Yes, there is a way but only if you are using a multi-core processor.
    Open up your video in VirtualDub and navigate to Video->Compression->Select x264vfw - H.264/MPEG-4 AVC codec->Press Configure
    Now you should be in the x264 configuration window. Switch over to the 'Rate Control & Other' tab.
    On the far right, there is a section called 'Multithreading', change the amount of threads to the amount of cores your CPU has.
    I am using a dual-core CPU, so I changed mine to 2:
    (http://img815.imageshack.us/img815/8999/capture07022011211103.png)
    Likewise, if you are using a quad-core CPU, change that number to 4.
    In theory you can set the amount of threads to higher than the amount of cores your CPU has, but to be safe I would recommend sticking with my suggestion.

The stats of the laptop CPU which I use to record videos using Fraps:
(http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/1554/cpustats.png)
Title: Re: Linmakana's Advanced AnimusRO Recording Guide [R>Move to Guides Please]
Post by: Rook on August 10, 2010, 10:48:04 pm
Nice work Linm! Are you going to put up videos of the process?
Title: Re: Linmakana's Advanced AnimusRO Recording Guide [R>Move to Guides Please]
Post by: Linmakana on August 10, 2010, 10:54:06 pm
Thanks. Like video walk-throughs? Probably not anytime soon. My graphics card is broken, so I can't do anything that requires a FPS of over 5.  :(
Title: Re: Linmakana's Advanced AnimusRO Recording Guide
Post by: Pinoy Cowboy on August 11, 2010, 10:06:08 pm
Thanks for the thread...Lim
Title: Re: Linmakana's Advanced AnimusRO Recording Guide
Post by: Linmakana on August 11, 2010, 10:11:09 pm
No problem?
Title: Re: Linmakana's Advanced AnimusRO Recording Guide
Post by: 4n0nym0u5 on August 19, 2010, 08:31:40 am
If you guys are having problems with the fraps I'll post up the FULL Fraps. No need to enter serial or copy cracks.
Title: Re: Linmakana's Advanced AnimusRO Recording Guide
Post by: Linmakana on August 19, 2010, 11:50:57 am
The torrent I'm providing doesn't require serials or cracks. Please don't assume, Lyronx. :(
Title: Re: Linmakana's Advanced AnimusRO Recording Guide
Post by: 4n0nym0u5 on August 23, 2010, 07:20:00 am
that sucks windows media encoder does not support 7. I guess I'll just use a virtual machine.
Title: Re: Linmakana's Advanced AnimusRO Recording Guide
Post by: Mebest11 on September 09, 2010, 06:26:31 pm
looks like a pro is gonna make youtube vids now lol
Title: Re: Linmakana's Advanced AnimusRO Recording Guide
Post by: Linmakana on September 09, 2010, 08:15:48 pm
Suuuure.
Title: Re: Linmakana's Advanced AnimusRO Recording Guide
Post by: 89 on September 14, 2010, 06:45:59 am
Windows Media Encoder link broken
Title: Re: Linmakana's Advanced AnimusRO Recording Guide
Post by: Linmakana on September 15, 2010, 01:03:47 am
Update: The stats of my laptop which I use to record videos

(http://imgur.com/pSlT6.png)

Fixed Windows Media Encoder link: http://tinyurl.com/Microsoft-Expression-Encoder-4
Title: Re: Linmakana's Advanced AnimusRO Recording Guide
Post by: 4n0nym0u5 on September 15, 2010, 05:05:33 am
Update: The stats of my laptop which I use to record videos

(http://imgur.com/pSlT6.png)
i like it, but would my pentium (2 cores) 2.30ghz still faster than yours??? cause from what i know pentiums only have 1 core... well pentium 4 did.
Title: Re: Linmakana's Advanced AnimusRO Recording Guide
Post by: Linmakana on September 15, 2010, 10:41:43 am
Well, I have 2 cores and can record Fraps/HyperCam just fine. That's all I need to know.
Title: Re: Linmakana's Advanced AnimusRO Recording Guide
Post by: 4n0nym0u5 on September 23, 2010, 01:11:14 am
Does the FFDS FOURCC only work for fraps for reducing file size? Does it also work for like tutorial videos over 5 minutes, having 60MB-100MB video file size?
Title: Re: Linmakana's Advanced AnimusRO Recording Guide
Post by: Linmakana on September 23, 2010, 01:52:17 am
FFDS works wonders, however VirtualDub only supports AVI naturally. You'll have to find plugins to support other file types.
Title: Re: Linmakana's Advanced AnimusRO Recording Guide
Post by: 4n0nym0u5 on September 23, 2010, 02:47:02 am
FFDS works wonders, however VirtualDub only supports AVI naturally. You'll have to find plugins to support other file types.
Ah ok cause my 5 minute tutorial seems too big around 60MB. Even though I lowered the quality and changed the compressor to Xvid it was still huge. The only way I got to make smaller was using Format Factory, I'm still trying to figure out how to make it smaller just using VirtualDub with FFDshow.
Title: Re: Linmakana's Advanced AnimusRO Recording Guide
Post by: Linmakana on September 23, 2010, 03:25:43 am
I think I explained it pretty well in the guide. FFDS reduces file size a lot with little quality loss using the setting I recommend, and it doesn't leave a watermark like Xvid/DivX.
Title: Re: Linmakana's Advanced AnimusRO Recording Guide
Post by: 4n0nym0u5 on September 23, 2010, 05:32:09 am
I think I explained it pretty well in the guide. FFDS reduces file size a lot with little quality loss using the setting I recommend, and it doesn't leave a watermark like Xvid/DivX.
Yea I followed every single step for the compression. Maybe there's something wrong with the encoding process, I'll try reinstall VDub and FFDshow.
Title: Re: Linmakana's Advanced AnimusRO Recording Guide
Post by: Linmakana on September 23, 2010, 08:07:40 pm
Try using VirtualDubMod. It might work for you,, I'm not sure.

http://sourceforge.net/projects/virtualdubmod/files/
Title: Re: Linmakana's Advanced AnimusRO Recording Guide
Post by: InterSpectra on September 23, 2010, 10:04:08 pm
Ah ok cause my 5 minute tutorial seems too big around 60MB. Even though I lowered the quality and changed the compressor to Xvid it was still huge. The only way I got to make smaller was using Format Factory, I'm still trying to figure out how to make it smaller just using VirtualDub with FFDshow.

A final cut render of 5 Minutes being 60 MB (in my opinion) is on the small size. Youtube automatically re-transcodes the video to conform with its own specifications, but your original raw upload file ultimately determines the final quality result. Smaller filesizes means less data for Youtube to work with when transcoding your upload file.

Here are some real example figures of 720p video filesizes streamed off Youtube (All include links, some are mine, some are Callysto's):


Also, I checked out your advertisement video, and your 720p filesize from Youtube was 37.1 MB *but your original file uploaded to mediashare was only 23.8 MB*
How does that work? It means after transcoding Youtube's bitrate was higher than yours (Their 720p files use H.264 AVC     ~3 Mbps VBR).


In my experience 1080p videos on Youtube don't look as good as 720p. Unless you're recording near 1920x1080 resolutions I suggest you re-adjust your RO window size to 1280x720. I have tried many different combinations for 1080p uploads on Youtube and was unable to get a crisp picture, unless it was a raw Fraps upload.

Here's a 1080p example:
Video length is 32 seconds.
I forgot my raw file encode stats, may have been 12 (18 Max) Mbps 2-pass VBR

Final cut render size: 38.03 MB (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=8K37UGHL)
Youtube's filesize: 14.8 MB (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHtmUE8FJKU)

Hope this helps.
Title: Re: Linmakana's Advanced AnimusRO Recording Guide
Post by: Linmakana on September 23, 2010, 10:10:24 pm
/ok I can't Frap anymore, my graphics card is broken. Until I get a new laptop, looks like I won't be doing anything for a while.

I don't have Adobe Premier and I don't feel like torrenting one.  :(
VirtualDub does fine for me, with encoding and basic cutting scenes.
Title: Re: Linmakana's Advanced AnimusRO Recording Guide
Post by: 4n0nym0u5 on September 24, 2010, 12:54:04 am
Ah ok cause my 5 minute tutorial seems too big around 60MB. Even though I lowered the quality and changed the compressor to Xvid it was still huge. The only way I got to make smaller was using Format Factory, I'm still trying to figure out how to make it smaller just using VirtualDub with FFDshow.

A final cut render of 5 Minutes being 60 MB (in my opinion) is on the small size. Youtube automatically re-transcodes the video to conform with its own specifications, but your original raw upload file ultimately determines the final quality result. Smaller filesizes means less data for Youtube to work with when transcoding your upload file.

Here are some real example figures of 720p video filesizes streamed off Youtube (All include links, some are mine, some are Callysto's):

  • 3 Minutes and 00 Seconds - 112 MB (Lots of fast motion/scene switching = more data needed) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tJkkxmKfaYE)
  • 4 Minutes and 21 Seconds - 66.5 MB (Lots of repeating colors/lack of change between frames = less data needed) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5i_Q8iXB8lc)
  • 6 Minutes and 04 Seconds - 113 MB (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LfuN3Y1XY90)
  • 7 Minutes and 07 Seconds - 132 MB (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FnyN7FcrPJ4)
  • 7 Minutes and 26 Seconds - 167 MB (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QXW42mITP7Q)
  • 8 Minutes and 22 Seconds - 206 MB (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VeI9tNiO1oI)

Also, I checked out your advertisement video, and your 720p filesize from Youtube was 37.1 MB *but your original file uploaded to mediashare was only 23.8 MB*
How does that work? It means after transcoding Youtube's bitrate was higher than yours (Their 720p files use H.264 AVC     ~3 Mbps VBR).


In my experience 1080p videos on Youtube don't look as good as 720p. Unless you're recording near 1920x1080 resolutions I suggest you re-adjust your RO window size to 1280x720. I have tried many different combinations for 1080p uploads on Youtube and was unable to get a crisp picture, unless it was a raw Fraps upload.

Here's a 1080p example:
Video length is 32 seconds.
I forgot my raw file encode stats, may have been 12 (18 Max) Mbps 2-pass VBR

Final cut render size: 38.03 MB (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=8K37UGHL)
Youtube's filesize: 14.8 MB (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHtmUE8FJKU)

Hope this helps.
Yes I try to make my uploads 20MB - 30MB with an acceptable quality as my uploads speed is only 20kbps. It really takes a really long time for me to upload even a 10MB video.
Title: Re: Linmakana's Advanced AnimusRO Recording Guide
Post by: InterSpectra on September 24, 2010, 01:22:49 am
Yes I try to make my uploads 20MB - 30MB with an acceptable quality as my uploads speed is only 20kbps. It really takes a really long time for me to upload even a 10MB video.

Oh I see, that's too bad yeah :<
If there's a place you can go to to leech some free and fast internet for uploading, you wouldn't have to worry too much about filesize. Though I haven't been able to make videos recently, I've uploaded at my university since my home internet sucks too (40 Kbps upload max), whereas at my uni a 350 MB file can be uploaded in less than 5 minutes.

For your final advertisement cut, I recommend a high bitrate and either upload overnight (at your upload speeds 300 MB will take about 7 hours), or find another place to upload. I realize you're under bandwidth constraints, and I mean no offense, but to use an analogy, imagine a paper advertisement that's been folded or scrunched up; people would pay less attention to it, even if the advertisement itself was really well made. You can always render a smaller sized version for us to check and offer suggestions to, but for your absolute final video, maybe render above Youtube bitrates at the very least?
Title: Re: Linmakana's Advanced AnimusRO Recording Guide
Post by: Linmakana on September 24, 2010, 01:37:24 am
I go to the local college to upload my videos, they have their own self-contained ISP and I have a few friends who work there.
Title: Re: Linmakana's Advanced AnimusRO Recording Guide
Post by: 4n0nym0u5 on September 24, 2010, 10:35:36 am
Yes I try to make my uploads 20MB - 30MB with an acceptable quality as my uploads speed is only 20kbps. It really takes a really long time for me to upload even a 10MB video.

Oh I see, that's too bad yeah :<
If there's a place you can go to to leech some free and fast internet for uploading, you wouldn't have to worry too much about filesize. Though I haven't been able to make videos recently, I've uploaded at my university since my home internet sucks too (40 Kbps upload max), whereas at my uni a 350 MB file can be uploaded in less than 5 minutes.

For your final advertisement cut, I recommend a high bitrate and either upload overnight (at your upload speeds 300 MB will take about 7 hours), or find another place to upload. I realize you're under bandwidth constraints, and I mean no offense, but to use an analogy, imagine a paper advertisement that's been folded or scrunched up; people would pay less attention to it, even if the advertisement itself was really well made. You can always render a smaller sized version for us to check and offer suggestions to, but for your absolute final video, maybe render above Youtube bitrates at the very least?
Yes I will try to do it overnight. If only I had a better graphics card, I could probably go for 1080i or 1080p. I'll try to overclock my PC if I have to really record at absolute acceptable quality. I currently use Camtasia Studio for advance editing and Windows Movie Maker for the final product. Since I'm starting v2.4 of the advertisement, I'll try my very best to get good quality (perhaps around 1000-3000kbps)??? Thanks for your advice.
Title: Re: Linmakana's Advanced AnimusRO Recording Guide
Post by: ikept on September 25, 2010, 11:47:50 pm
I used HyperCam2 the video that i recorded seems a bit faster than the normal speed. How can change it?
Title: Re: Linmakana's Advanced AnimusRO Recording Guide
Post by: Linmakana on September 26, 2010, 12:01:09 am
That means you're recording at a faster FPS than aRO is running at. Try recording at different FPS' until you can find one that suits you. If you watch my Asterisk guild event video, you'll notice everything is faster as well.
Title: Re: Linmakana's Advanced AnimusRO Recording Guide
Post by: ikept on September 26, 2010, 12:15:50 am
Thanks. Ah one more thing its seems that i can't figure it out the microsoft encoder, i think mines a lil bit different when i opened the encoder on the left side it says "open job" then when i hit okay its kinda look like windows movie maker.
Title: Re: Linmakana's Advanced AnimusRO Recording Guide
Post by: Linmakana on September 26, 2010, 12:47:04 am
Yeah, Micro$oft changed Windows Media Encoder so I need to update the guide. Thanks for reminding me.

For now, simply replace the steps in the HyperCam guide with the steps from the Fraps guide. Read: VirtualDub
Title: Re: Linmakana's Advanced AnimusRO Recording Guide
Post by: ikept on September 26, 2010, 01:03:05 am
No prob. and thanks too, i'll give it a try tomorrow:) tho using hypercam2 makes my game more laggy than usual xD
Title: Re: Linmakana's Advanced AnimusRO Recording Guide
Post by: Linmakana on September 26, 2010, 01:19:48 am
Yeah, if you lag on HyperCam, you'll lag even worse on Fraps.

Computer specs?
Title: Re: Linmakana's Advanced AnimusRO Recording Guide
Post by: ikept on September 26, 2010, 10:27:35 am
Pentium(R) Dual-Core CPU T4200 @ 2.00GHz
When i start recording my ro window is blinking and makes my character moves slowly. But when i first tried it works just fine, wonder whats the problem?
Title: Re: Linmakana's Advanced AnimusRO Recording Guide
Post by: Linmakana on September 26, 2010, 05:50:01 pm
You're probably using your memory differently. The more things you have running alongside HyperCam + aRO, the laggier it gets.
Title: Re: Linmakana's Advanced AnimusRO Recording Guide
Post by: InterSpectra on October 08, 2010, 02:07:17 am
Mini mythbuster time! I made a test video about the RO Client's resolution, and whether or not higher resolutions = more rendered visibility. Some games usually allow us to see more at higher resolutions: our field of vision expands to cover more area, giving people more advantage the higher resolution they run. This isn't the case with the RO client however, the only real benefit gained is the relative space menu interface items take up at the current client resolution. Menu interface items only have one size, they will take up the same amount of pixels at any resolution, blocking the screen.

As you will see in the test video, the field of vision does not change. I used the original zoom level (ctrl + right double click) to test both resolutions.

AnimusRO Client Resolution Test (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v9bBxy4v-_0)

Because of YT's 1080p quality and the fact that client resolution doesn't matter too much (at the same aspect ratio), I would recommend adjusting the dinput.ini file within the RO directory to 1280x720 client resolutions for optimal video recording + upload.

People on laptops may want to modify the following dinput.ini variables, if their standard resolution is 1366x768 while recording (you don't have to do this if you play fullscreen 1280x720):

Code: [Select]
; Override RO window position and size.
; Ignored if WindowWidth = 0 or WindowHeight = 0.
; Command line switch: -wX,Y,Width,Height
WindowPosX = 48
WindowPosY = 0
WindowWidth = 1280
WindowHeight = 720

-Edit-

I don't know why I changed it!
Title: Re: Linmakana's Advanced AnimusRO Recording Guide
Post by: Linmakana on October 08, 2010, 03:08:07 am
Yeah, I always keep my client on 1280 x 720 using dinput.ini if I'm recording.

However, Fraps is kind of stubborn when it comes to playing games not in fullscreen. Sometimes it won't recognize the 1280 x 720 window as something recordable. Any idea why? Sometimes it works and sometimes not.

But I found a quick bypass method, set:

WindowWidth = 1280   
WindowHeight = 720

but also set:

WindowLock = 1

This'll make a 1280 x 720 game client window but will fill the rest of the screen (from WindowLock = 1) with transparency. This tricks Fraps into thinking that you're running a fullscreen game, so you can record.

Crop out the transparent portions of the recording and you're good to go, with a 720p video.
Title: Re: Linmakana's Advanced AnimusRO Recording Guide
Post by: InterSpectra on October 08, 2010, 04:50:36 am
From my experience Fraps has trouble picking up windows with 3d processing that were already open. In other words I had to close everything down first, open Fraps, *then* open the RO clients. It's been a while since I had a problem with that, but I think it may have to do with how Fraps detects recordable windows (since it only does 3D applications unlike Hypercam).

About your workaround, now that I think about it, I've been using WindowLock = 1 for a long time now, even when running in Windowed mode because the extra frame is  pointless (I only enable MouseFreedom in psuedo-fullscreen mode). Though I never had to do any cropping when playing in a 1280x720 window.

Nonetheless I'm glad that WindowLock works with the resolution/position variables so you could play in a non-framed window. The resolution settings take priority, and then if WindowLock = 1 it'll just remove the frames, that's what happens for me.
Title: Re: Linmakana's Advanced AnimusRO Recording Guide
Post by: Mebest11 on October 09, 2010, 07:27:13 pm
here's an example of mine i think it's pretty good http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_u7WgsaJBNQ
Title: Re: Linmakana's Advanced AnimusRO Recording Guide
Post by: Linmakana on October 09, 2010, 08:09:23 pm
It's okay.

Not 720p HD, though. And you've got the AnimusRO bar at the top.
Title: Re: Linmakana's Advanced AnimusRO Recording Guide
Post by: Mebest11 on October 09, 2010, 09:35:20 pm
i dont mind the animus part and i gave you my 320p my 720 was a little laggy on youtube
Title: Re: Linmakana's Advanced AnimusRO Recording Guide
Post by: Myew Gelato on January 05, 2011, 02:25:41 am
I apologize for needlessly spamming the other thread - so I'll spam yours instead. I believe I have 4GB of 800 Mhz DDR2 RAM, but being on a 32 bit system it can only utilize 3 GB or so. My GPU is a GeForce 9600 GT 512 MB DDR3. Built most of it a year or two back, who remembers. The GPU is a couple years older.

Edit: Before I forget, another note. I recently changed from being fullscreen for over 3 years to windowed. Ever since, Fraps doesn't show my FPS counter unless the RO window is NOT highlighted, meaning it shows if I'm on the taskbar - which subsequently causes it unload from the processor and scale back to 15 FPS. But it still takes pics fine more or less.. it also shows my taskbar in RO pics.
Title: Re: Linmakana's Advanced AnimusRO Recording Guide [Major Update! v2.0]
Post by: Linmakana on February 09, 2011, 12:04:20 am
Major Update:
I've (mostly) rewritten the entire guide, utilizing newfound knowledge bestowed upon me by InterSpectra.
I've added screenshots and a brand new FAQ section.
I've also pretty much removed the HyperCam guide since it sucks.
Title: Re: Linmakana's Advanced AnimusRO Recording Guide [Major Update! v2.0]
Post by: InterSpectra on February 09, 2011, 04:15:23 am
Looks good Lin!

/no1
Title: Re: Linmakana's Advanced AnimusRO Recording Guide [Major Update! v2.0]
Post by: Linmakana on February 09, 2011, 11:02:26 am
Anything else I should include?
Title: Re: Linmakana's Advanced AnimusRO Recording Guide [Major Update! v2.0]
Post by: Linmakana on February 09, 2011, 04:09:50 pm
Augh. I forgot to include the nth pass mulitpass encode after the first multipass.
Gotta add that too.
Title: Re: Linmakana's Advanced AnimusRO Recording Guide [Major Update! v2.0]
Post by: Linmakana on February 13, 2011, 12:10:58 am
ATTENTION: There is a new updated Fraps torrent available. Please PM me if you want it, the guide will still work with the old one but the new one has much more bug-fixes and optimizations.
Title: Re: Linmakana's Advanced AnimusRO Recording Guide [Major Update! v2.0]
Post by: 4n0nym0u5 on February 15, 2011, 04:46:59 am
ATTENTION: There is a new updated Fraps torrent available. Please PM me if you want it, the guide will still work with the old one but the new one has much more bug-fixes and optimizations.

Hmmm torrents just make the whole online world full of spasm!
Title: Re: Linmakana's Advanced AnimusRO Recording Guide [Major Update! v2.0]
Post by: Linmakana on February 15, 2011, 11:11:05 am
Okay?
Title: Re: Linmakana's Advanced AnimusRO Recording Guide [Major Update! v2.0]
Post by: InterSpectra on February 15, 2011, 07:31:42 pm
It has been a few months since I tested Youtube's 1080p quality (since October last year), and every attempt except for one ended up crappy quality. (This is the *only* upload I managed to get sharp crisp text, but it shouldn't count because it's only 5 seconds long) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQb5aAx16H0).

Another test this time around, but three different uploads:

*RAW MANLY FRAPS UPLOAD* (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BC11i_QhjDQ)

Fraps raw filesize: 1.81 GB
(Yes, that is 1.81 GB for 35 seconds worth of video!)
Video Codec: FRAPS
Audio Codec: PCM

AnimusRO Client Resolution Test February 2011 (1920x1080) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mPjaDQfQq0Q)

aRO recorded with Fraps (1920x1080 @ 30 FPS)
Editted with Adobe Premiere Pro CS4 (1920x1080 @ 30 FPS)
Video Codec: H.264 AVC Main Concept; Profile 5.1 High @ 9 Mbps (12 Max) VBR 2-Pass
Audio Codec: AAC 44.1 KHz @ 160 Kbps Stereo
Render Filesize: 37.18 MB
Youtube 1080p Filesize: 24.7 MB


Now I'll do that same walk through Prontera but in 1280x720 client resolution. Note that the camera zoom level has not changed from default, but the menus and vend chats look bigger.
AnimusRO Client Resolution Test February 2011 (1280x720) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j3oP8ryVHDo)

aRO recorded with Fraps (1280x720 @ 30 FPS)
Editted with Adobe Premiere Pro CS4 (1280x720 @ 30 FPS)
Video Codec: H.264 AVC Main Concept; Profile 4.1 High @ 9 Mbps (12 Max) VBR 2-Pass
Audio Codec: AAC 44.1 KHz @ 160 Kbps Stereo
Render Filesize: 33.53 MB
Youtube 720p Filesize: 12 MB



It's too bad about 1080p, but going back my first Client Resolution Test (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v9bBxy4v-_0), for the same client screen ratio (4:3 or 16:10 or 16:9) changing the resolution does not make you see more at the same zoom level, but because the menu/chat/bars take up the same amount of pixels no matter what, higher resolutions give the impression of a less cluttered client, making gameplay better.
Title: Re: Linmakana's Advanced AnimusRO Recording Guide [Major Update! v2.0]
Post by: XsuperbikeX on February 15, 2011, 10:10:33 pm

Now I'll do that same walk through Prontera but in 1280x720 client resolution. Note that the camera zoom level has not changed from default, but the menus and vend chats look bigger.
AnimusRO Client Resolution Test February 2011 (1280x720) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j3oP8ryVHDo)

aRO recorded with Fraps (1280x720 @ 30 FPS)
Editted with Adobe Premiere Pro CS4 (1280x720 @ 30 FPS)
Video Codec: H.264 AVC Main Concept; Profile 4.1 High @ 9 Mbps (12 Max) VBR 2-Pass
Audio Codec: AAC 44.1 KHz @ 160 Kbps Stereo
Render Filesize: 33.53 MB
Youtube 720p Filesize: 12 MB



It's too bad about 1080p, but going back my first Client Resolution Test (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v9bBxy4v-_0), for the same client screen ratio (4:3 or 16:10 or 16:9) changing the resolution does not make you see more at the same zoom level, but because the menu/chat/bars take up the same amount of pixels no matter what, higher resolutions give the impression of a less cluttered client, making gameplay better.

Win!  i hope i can do on Sony Vegas lol
Title: Re: Linmakana's Advanced AnimusRO Recording Guide [Major Update! v2.0]
Post by: Linmakana on February 15, 2011, 10:17:47 pm
That's some nice stuff to know, InterSpectra. Too bad this laptop's max resolution is 1280x800.  :(
720p is where it's at, yo.
Title: Re: Linmakana's Advanced AnimusRO Recording Guide [Major Update! v2.0]
Post by: Neetox on March 19, 2011, 07:42:41 pm
Alright, so question.... When I start recording with fraps, I get noticeable lag, still playable but still slow, and my loading screens take about 20 seconds or something. I've no idea why? Is it my ram? or?? ._.

Computer specs are:

Intel Core i7 950 @ 3.07 GHz
6GB Corsair XM3 DDR3-1066 RAM
AMD Radeon HD 6970
1TB WD Caviar Black Hard Drive

halp plz

I notice that my cpu isn't even going past 10% and I've only got RO running when i Fraps. Any ideas? I'm starting to think I have a faulty Hard Drive, it runs and it's fine but sometimes things seem to go slowly.... idk..

Edit: So I just tried playing with Full Screen to see if that would alleviate the problem and it has, but why? I know other people that play in windowed mode and don't have a problem frapsing. Would it possibly be because I run RO at 1920x1200 with that roext thingy so only my taskbar shows? ???
Title: Re: Linmakana's Advanced AnimusRO Recording Guide [Major Update! v2.0]
Post by: Linmakana on March 19, 2011, 08:28:22 pm
Alright, so question.... When I start recording with fraps, I get noticeable lag, still playable but still slow, and my loading screens take about 20 seconds or something. I've no idea why? Is it my ram? or?? ._.

Computer specs are:

Intel Core i7 950 @ 3.07 GHz
6GB Corsair XM3 DDR3-1066 RAM
AMD Radeon HD 6970
1TB WD Caviar Black Hard Drive

halp plz

I notice that my cpu isn't even going past 10% and I've only got RO running when i Fraps. Any ideas? I'm starting to think I have a faulty Hard Drive, it runs and it's fine but sometimes things seem to go slowly.... idk..

Edit: So I just tried playing with Full Screen to see if that would alleviate the problem and it has, but why? I know other people that play in windowed mode and don't have a problem frapsing. Would it possibly be because I run RO at 1920x1200 with that roext thingy so only my taskbar shows? ???
Hmm, the newest Fraps version that I sent you actually has CPU Optimization so I don't know why it's doing that.
Your Core i7 CPU is spectacular as well as your RAM and GPU. It might be your HDD, but I'm not entirely sure. Caviar Black is higher-tier.
It might have trouble writing/reading the amount of data caused from recording at higher resolutions (1920x1200)

I personally play in windowed and never get lag Frapping with lower system specs than you, so I think there's another cause for it.
Sorry I can't be of much help, try asking InterSpectra. That guy is pro.

EDIT: Perhaps running diagnostics on your HDD might help, bad sectors or something along those lines.
Title: Re: Linmakana's Advanced AnimusRO Recording Guide [Major Update! v2.0]
Post by: Neetox on March 19, 2011, 08:37:40 pm
How would I go about doing that? The diagnostics thing? and um.

The Fraps you sent me was no longer available but I got the "same one" from a different torrent. Version 3.2.9 right?

And yea, I think it might be the resolution. 1080p 1 minute files = 3.98GB.
Title: Re: Linmakana's Advanced AnimusRO Recording Guide [Major Update! v2.0]
Post by: Linmakana on March 19, 2011, 08:40:43 pm
Gaaah, no longer available? Dang. Anyways, Version 3.2.9 is correct.

Concerning the diagnostics, what OS are you using?
Title: Re: Linmakana's Advanced AnimusRO Recording Guide [Major Update! v2.0]
Post by: Neetox on March 19, 2011, 11:52:20 pm
Windows 7.

- K so yea, there's no problem with me Frapsing in full screen so at least I can fraps at all. Too bad it doesn't work in window'd mode, but i can live with it.
Title: Re: Linmakana's Advanced AnimusRO Recording Guide [Major Update! v2.0]
Post by: Neetox on March 21, 2011, 11:01:16 pm
Double post ftw!

VirtualDub and your settings for some reason aren't working. Once it's done saving the file, there's no video anymore. Not sure why. ._.
Title: Re: Linmakana's Advanced AnimusRO Recording Guide [Major Update! v2.0]
Post by: Linmakana on March 21, 2011, 11:17:16 pm
That's strange. I've never heard of that one before.

1. Are you using the latest VirtualDub distribution?
2. Are you running the video through Nth Pass?
3. Do you have the latest/correct x264 codec?

If you could describe the situation a bit more, that would help.

About the HDD: If you don't want to install anything, read this (http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/433-disk-check.html).
Title: Re: Linmakana's Advanced AnimusRO Recording Guide [Major Update! v2.0]
Post by: Neetox on March 21, 2011, 11:31:30 pm
1. Yeap
2. Yeap
3. Yeap

I think I know the problem, not sure yet. I think since my videos are in WUXGA resolution, I'll have to use a higher bitrate. Starting to mess around with settings and see what they'll do.

And thanks for the Chk Disk thing. Starting to think I'm just paranoid and nothings wrong with it, but I'll take a gander to make sure.
Title: Re: Linmakana's Advanced AnimusRO Recording Guide [Major Update! v2.0]
Post by: Linmakana on March 21, 2011, 11:57:59 pm
That's what I would do, probably.

I'm currently testing out other x264 distributions, so I'll keep this thread updated if I find anything.
Title: Re: Linmakana's Advanced AnimusRO Recording Guide [Major Update! v2.0]
Post by: InterSpectra on March 22, 2011, 12:47:02 am
Sorry I'm late to the reply here, though everything Lin said would be right.

Glad Fraps works better in full screen, but is it still running at 1920x1200 when full screen?

HDD read/write speeds at high resolutions does put a huge strain, especially since you're trying to read/write from the same drive. Your long load times is due to Fraps writing +50 MB per second sequentially on the disk, but is interrupted by constant random seek to load RO.

The highest resolution I tried fraps'ing at is 1920x1080, so 1920x1200 is beyond me. One thing to note however, as I mentioned before, for the same aspect ratio, higher resolution does not mean you get to see more. It just means your CPU has more work to do displaying extra pixels to make up any object.

That, and RO is such a old game designed before powerful graphics cards, so it probably doesn't even use 10% of your HD Radeon 6970. The graphics in RO is mostly handled and computed by the CPU, not the GPU. This ultimately means that, even for an i7, 8 threads doesn't mean anything for RO. What you need is a single thread that can run at +4.0 GHz to crunch all those pixels to be displayed. The Fraps with CPU optimizations help a lot however, I do notice slightly better mouse input response time, but I can only imagine how much input lag you get at higher resolutions.

tl;dr

Lower your RO resolution. Not sure if your full screen is at 1920x1200 for you as well, but if it is and you get that huge improvement, may be due to Fraps' not fully supporting Windows 7 Service Pack 1 until 3.30 or later.

Example comparison between 1280x720 and 1920x1080 resolutions, as you can see only the interface menus are not resized, they take up a static amount of pixels at any resolution.

AnimusRO Client Resolution Test (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v9bBxy4v-_0)

So if you're planning on uploading to Youtube in its max (not best, 720p is best for now), 1920x1080 fits best.


Hope this explains something Neetox! As it's my last semester of Uni I won't have too much time to make videos but watching them while procastinating is always good ;>

Good luck with the video editing, I don't really use virtualDub so I couldn't help with that.
Title: Re: Linmakana's Advanced AnimusRO Recording Guide [Major Update! v2.0]
Post by: Linmakana on March 22, 2011, 12:54:56 am
I've actually found a Fraps 3.30 torrent, but it still has a lot of bugs needing to be fixed.
W7 is fully supported past 3.00, but you're going to have to wait for someone to get the new Fraps when all the bugs are smoothed out.
Title: Re: Linmakana's Advanced AnimusRO Recording Guide [Major Update! v2.0]
Post by: Neetox on March 22, 2011, 01:34:10 am
Yea I don't have a problem with fraps running full screen and yea, the resolution is 1920x1200. If you think about it, it kinda does display more, since you wont be using the same aspect ratio that you're using at lower resolutions. It definitely helps me in terms of keeping some extra things on the screen that i find useful, but at the same time , there's no clutter. A smaller interface definitely helps me.

After playing with another program (Any Video Converter) I got it to spit out 720p videos at a good quality so I'm guessing VirtualDub doesn't work with 1080p content? or perhaps I'm doing it wrong. Tried using a higher bitrate to encode and that didn't work. Doubt it's the codec since the x264 worked just fine on AVC. Now I just gotta learn how to edit shit and we'll see what happens.
Title: Re: Linmakana's Advanced AnimusRO Recording Guide [Major Update! v2.0]
Post by: Linmakana on March 22, 2011, 02:32:09 am
Still haven't found a free video editing+processing alternative to Adobe Premier or Sony Vegas. :(

OpenShot (http://www.openshotvideo.com) looks pretty nice, but it's for Linux. Might install Linux on a partition just to use it.
Title: Re: Linmakana's Advanced AnimusRO Recording Guide [Major Update! v2.0]
Post by: demoncursed on March 29, 2012, 09:55:22 am
Sir, i have a problem.. i followed the steps you posted but when im about to view the file there is no video but it has audio
Title: Re: Linmakana's Advanced AnimusRO Recording Guide [Major Update! v2.0]
Post by: InterSpectra on March 29, 2012, 06:30:35 pm
Sir, i have a problem.. i followed the steps you posted but when im about to view the file there is no video but it has audio

Did you have the Codec's Multi-pass setup correctly?

It's been a while since I used VirtualDub, but when you select 1st-pass of a Multi-pass, it won't generate and mux together the video, because it hasn't rendered it yet. 1st pass of a Multi-pass makes data to use for the later passes. At that point you select Nth pass (must be after 1st), and then it should render the actual video data. Make sure the output name/destination is the same for all steps.

Lemme know if this doesn't solve it.