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The 'Other' Section => AnesisRO Archive => Archive => General Questions => Topic started by: Najara on June 16, 2010, 06:24:29 pm
Title: Bloody Branches @ Castles
Post by: Najara on June 16, 2010, 06:24:29 pm
I don't know if this is done on purpose, but I noticed that Bloody Branches no longer work at guild castles. Bloody Branches are useful for heavy defence during WoE. ]:
Is there a chance that these will be enabled again? (@_@ This probably needs to be answered by a GM or PR.)
Title: Re: Bloody Branches @ Castles
Post by: DreamerP on June 16, 2010, 07:25:55 pm
They've been disabled for a while now...
And they'd be kind of broken assuming you get the right MvPs...so I'm pretty sure it's staying that way.
Title: Re: Bloody Branches @ Castles
Post by: SilentIce on June 16, 2010, 09:34:23 pm
And they'd be kind of broken assuming you get the right MvPs...so I'm pretty sure it's staying that way.
If a certain guild wants to spend a few million to defend with castle with MVP's, why not let em? A good WoE guild is participating, they should all be able to take out the MVP's and get the castle before the time is up. What do you think all those SQI's are for? 8)
Title: Re: Bloody Branches @ Castles
Post by: Combo on June 16, 2010, 09:46:58 pm
Good luck killing an MVP in a room with like Valks, Ifrit, LH3 mvps, and some other crap. Huge fucking lag fest would come out of that.
Title: Re: Bloody Branches @ Castles
Post by: Raruri on June 16, 2010, 10:07:52 pm
Good luck killing an MVP in a room with like Valks, Ifrit, LH3 mvps, and some other crap. Huge fucking lag fest would come out of that.
for all you know the room could fill up with angelings
Title: Re: Bloody Branches @ Castles
Post by: Combo on June 16, 2010, 10:18:58 pm
If that were to happen, they'd just get more BBs to spawn those Valks. But yeah, those strong MVPs spawn at a pretty high rate. My friend said that in this one BB event he was in, they spawned 3 Valks with only 14 BBs.
Title: Re: Bloody Branches @ Castles
Post by: Najara on June 17, 2010, 05:37:07 am
And they'd be kind of broken assuming you get the right MvPs...so I'm pretty sure it's staying that way.
If a certain guild wants to spend a few million to defend with castle with MVP's, why not let em? A good WoE guild is participating, they should all be able to take out the MVP's and get the castle before the time is up. What do you think all those SQI's are for? 8)
Exactly what I'm thinking.
@ Dreamer, how is it broken? You could have a tanker to lure them away. Seriously, it's just... It's been allowed for years, what I think is broken is that I just spended 22mil for something that got disabled from one day to the other. (I know it's been for awhile now, but I only noticed it yesterday.)
So I still need a answer from a GM or PR. Will it ever be changed back or not?
Title: Re: Bloody Branches @ Castles
Post by: DreamerP on June 17, 2010, 06:14:19 am
Well let me put this way...I buy 20 BBs which is what a measly $12? Then I pop them all in the Emp room...And lets say I get Beezles, Valks, Ifrits, Glooms, Bishops how do you intend on defending a castle like that...not to mention all the lag that'll occur.
I suppose you can break it but what's that supporting solo cappers >_>
Before the MvPs from BBs were pretty much useless...
Title: Re: Bloody Branches @ Castles
Post by: ShadowPaladinX2 on June 17, 2010, 06:16:32 am
who cares if its broken i find it fun to run into a castle with a bunch of friends so we can slaughter all those tard MVPs that they spawned.
Title: Re: Bloody Branches @ Castles
Post by: Najara on June 17, 2010, 06:34:07 am
Well let me put this way...I buy 20 BBs which is what a measly $12? Then I pop them all in the Emp room...And lets say I get Beezles, Valks, Ifrits, Glooms, Bishops how do you intend on defending a castle like that...not to mention all the lag that'll occur.
I suppose you can break it but what's that supporting solo cappers >_>
Before the MvPs from BBs were pretty much useless...
Silly, we want to spawn them in the pre-emp. Either way, this isn't a suggestion, it doesn't matter why, when, where or howmany we spawn, I'm only asking if they will ever be enabled again.
So yeah; Still need a GM or PR answer.
Title: Re: Bloody Branches @ Castles
Post by: SilentIce on June 17, 2010, 07:01:41 am
Well let me put this way...I buy 20 BBs which is what a measly $12? Then I pop them all in the Emp room...And lets say I get Beezles, Valks, Ifrits, Glooms, Bishops how do you intend on defending a castle like that...not to mention all the lag that'll occur.
I suppose you can break it but what's that supporting solo cappers >_>
Before the MvPs from BBs were pretty much useless...
Yea, cuz all the guilds are filled with people who can afford to donate over and over and over :P
If you say yes to the above, I have to state again the arguement of "WoE guilds filled with SQI's"
Title: Re: Bloody Branches @ Castles
Post by: DreamerP on June 17, 2010, 07:09:21 am
Your making no sense because it's easy to acquire BBs whether you donate or not...
And not everyone is geared with SQI and even if they were your not going to be able to take on MvPs of that scale on top of which your lagging like mad.
@Najara
And it doesn't matter if it's in the Pre-Emp or Pre Pre Emp it's ridiculous to allow an MvP to defend for you because you can also form a high defense if you pop branches in the Pre Emp and leave it there.
Making it quite easy to raise Econ or destroy Econ.
WoE is a team effort, not "Oh I hope I get a Beezle from my BB to kill them all"
Title: Re: Bloody Branches @ Castles
Post by: Najara on June 17, 2010, 07:20:44 am
And it doesn't matter if it's in the Pre-Emp or Pre Pre Emp it's ridiculous to allow an MvP to defend for you because you can also form a high defense if you pop branches in the Pre Emp and leave it there.
Making it quite easy to raise Econ or destroy Econ.
WoE is a team effort, not "Oh I hope I get a Beezle from my BB to kill them all"
it doesn't matter why, when, where or howmany we spawn, I'm only asking if they will ever be enabled again.
Also... (damn you, I told myself to no further bother on your argument, but I will anyways) Exactly, WoE is team effort, you're not on your own. You'll have 2 hours to kill (taking your example) 20 MVPs with 30+ players, probably 50+ for you since you're in Mote, am I right?
Sounds like plenty of time to me. And ofcourse 2 or 3 will be tough MVPs, but definetly not all of them. @_@
Title: Re: Bloody Branches @ Castles
Post by: redhairweasel on June 17, 2010, 07:42:04 am
Yeah dreamer she's right. Everyone of your guild should forget about defending and get together to kill MVPs rather than setting up defense. Just erase econ/holding/defend terms in animus woe scene because this is how woe should be!
Title: Re: Bloody Branches @ Castles
Post by: Haine on June 17, 2010, 07:47:11 am
I think Dreamer is in Divinity, though it's still one of the higher tiered guilds.
Yeah dreamer she's right. Everyone of your guild should forget about defending and get together to kill MVPs rather than setting up defense. Just erase econ/holding/defend terms in animus woe scene because this is how woe should be!
While not in quite a sarcastic way, I agree with this thinking. WoE shouldn't be about spending the entire time trying to kill MVPs...
Title: Re: Bloody Branches @ Castles
Post by: Najara on June 17, 2010, 07:56:25 am
Yeah dreamer she's right. Everyone of your guild should forget about defending and get together to kill MVPs rather than setting up defense. Just erase econ/holding/defend terms in animus woe scene because this is how woe should be!
While not in quite a sarcastic way, I agree with this thinking. WoE shouldn't be about spending the entire time trying to kill MVPs...
So the answer is that BBs will remain disabled? Thanks Haine, that's all I wanted to know.
Title: Re: Bloody Branches @ Castles
Post by: SilentIce on June 17, 2010, 07:58:26 am
Yeah dreamer she's right. Everyone of your guild should forget about defending and get together to kill MVPs rather than setting up defense. Just erase econ/holding/defend terms in animus woe scene because this is how woe should be!
While not in quite a sarcastic way, I agree with this thinking. WoE shouldn't be about spending the entire time trying to kill MVPs...
Half the time Woe is won by cappers. Just send in the Lord Knights and High Priests to distract while the Assassin Cross and Stalkers sneak around. After they've capped, the rest of the guild members can warp in the flag entrance, and now they are the controllers of the castle being Pseudo-defended by MVP's... until the next cappers.
Title: Re: Bloody Branches @ Castles
Post by: Haine on June 17, 2010, 08:08:39 am
Half the time Woe is won by cappers. Just send in the Lord Knights and High Priests to distract while the Assassin Cross and Stalkers sneak around. After they've capped, the rest of the guild members can warp in the flag entrance, and now they are the controllers of the castle being Pseudo-defended by MVP's... until the next cappers.
What's your point exactly? It's still more of an accurate aspect of WoE instead of it being PvM 2.0
Title: Re: Bloody Branches @ Castles
Post by: DreamerP on June 17, 2010, 08:19:31 am
@Najara
There are 3 scenes in the game PvM, PvP, and WoE...
So your telling me I should do PvM in WoE, is that what your saying...removing the whole WoE scene.
Or I guess in a way it'd be easy Econ by break BBs in a Pre-Emp and just defend from an Emp Room
@SilentIce
Really are you serious >_>
No WoE is not just about capping it's about defending as well because anyone can just cap a castle, there's not a whole lot of thinking there. WoE is about being the top guild to get to 100 Econ and maintaining it. A lot of people think that WoE is a waste of money but no if you put dedication into it you gain easy money.
Title: Re: Bloody Branches @ Castles
Post by: Pope Louis XIV on June 17, 2010, 08:33:54 am
You really have 100 econ fixed into your head like if it was as great as..... winning the world cup; or getting laid. o.o;
Title: Re: Bloody Branches @ Castles
Post by: Haine on June 17, 2010, 08:57:58 am
It would feel like a pretty big accomplishment for a lot of guilds.
Title: Re: Bloody Branches @ Castles
Post by: Najara on June 17, 2010, 09:06:53 am
There are 3 scenes in the game PvM, PvP, and WoE...
So your telling me I should do PvM in WoE, is that what your saying...removing the whole WoE scene.
Or I guess in a way it'd be easy Econ by break BBs in a Pre-Emp and just defend from an Emp Room
Eh... Enabling BBs during(/in?) WoE doesn't mean every guild suddenly starts spamming BBs.
even so, a guild would just break 30 BBs in the emp room, and go full charge on the other castles. i don't woe and see BBs as a cheap way of defending the emp, imagine for those who do
Title: Re: Bloody Branches @ Castles
Post by: DreamerP on June 17, 2010, 11:03:06 am
You really have 100 econ fixed into your head like if it was as great as..... winning the world cup; or getting laid. o.o;
In the whole history of this server I can only think of 1 guild to have reach 100 Econ out of what maybe 1k Guilds maybe more...it's huge accomplishment considering you gear to be the best.
There are 3 scenes in the game PvM, PvP, and WoE...
So your telling me I should do PvM in WoE, is that what your saying...removing the whole WoE scene.
Or I guess in a way it'd be easy Econ by break BBs in a Pre-Emp and just defend from an Emp Room
Eh... Enabling BBs during(/in?) WoE doesn't mean every guild suddenly starts spamming BBs.
Why not. If it were enabled it'd make the life of an attacking guild and defending guild a ton easier.
1) Attacking Guild pops the branches in the Emp Room and lets it kill them off while they break the emp. 2) Defending Guild pops it the branches in the Pre Emp and kills off anyone trying to get in the Emp.