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The 'Other' Section => AnesisRO Archive => Archive => General Questions => Topic started by: Papercut the Madhatter on June 12, 2010, 06:53:37 pm

Title: Kaho or Valk for PvP Stalker?
Post by: Papercut the Madhatter on June 12, 2010, 06:53:37 pm
Title says it all.

Edit: I wanna be a FS Stalker.
Title: Re: Kaho or Valk for PvP Stalker?
Post by: Kyubey on June 12, 2010, 07:09:26 pm
Both!

But, Kaho over Valk in my opinion.

Because flee almost never works in PvP.
Title: Re: Kaho or Valk for PvP Stalker?
Post by: SilentIce on June 12, 2010, 07:21:41 pm
Both!

But, Kaho over Valk in my opinion.

Because flee almost never works in PvP.

What nonsense talk is that.
Title: Re: Kaho or Valk for PvP Stalker?
Post by: Kyubey on June 12, 2010, 07:25:01 pm
Well for me it never worked.  :(
Title: Re: Kaho or Valk for PvP Stalker?
Post by: DreamerP on June 12, 2010, 07:27:47 pm
Kaho because the more DEX you have the more likely you'll FS...Valk for Flee.
Title: Re: Kaho or Valk for PvP Stalker?
Post by: Callysto on June 12, 2010, 07:28:26 pm
I'd say kaho. There's a direct correlation between strip success rate and the amount of dex you have. /ok Though, you'll probably get bored of being a fs stalker... people tend to fcp after they get stripped or relog... <_<
Title: Re: Kaho or Valk for PvP Stalker?
Post by: SilentIce on June 12, 2010, 07:28:54 pm
Well for me it never worked.  :(

Alot of flee =/= enough flee. It might never be enough vs people using Phreeoni's in their weapons, or otherwise people with REALLY high dex.

Need to double stormy knight, or Valkyrie Helm + double stormy knight, mystel shoes, Nine Tails +9-10 hood (for the extra 2), and whatever else you need for it.
Title: Re: Kaho or Valk for PvP Stalker?
Post by: Papercut the Madhatter on June 12, 2010, 07:30:05 pm
I'd say kaho. There's a direct correlation between strip success rate and the amount of dex you have. /ok Though, you'll probably get bored of being a fs stalker... people tend to fcp after they get stripped or relog... <_<

Well, not every one will. ^-^
And, I really, really wanna FS a Champion! D:<

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Title: Re: Kaho or Valk for PvP Stalker?
Post by: Kyubey on June 12, 2010, 07:32:48 pm
And, I really, really wanna FS a Champion! D:<
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Good Luck with that!

Most champs I've met snap[body relocate] away and relog back to FCP and FO-Storm me when I strip them.

Unless you want to FS them for fun and not fight.  :)
Title: Re: Kaho or Valk for PvP Stalker?
Post by: Papercut the Madhatter on June 12, 2010, 07:33:51 pm
And, I really, really wanna FS a Champion! D:<
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Good Luck with that!

Most champs I've met snap away and relog to FO-Storm me when I strip them.

Unless you want to FS them for fun and not fight.  :)
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Both. /gg[/center]
Title: Re: Kaho or Valk for PvP Stalker?
Post by: Kyubey on June 12, 2010, 07:34:44 pm
Alright then... D:
Title: Re: Kaho or Valk for PvP Stalker?
Post by: Callysto on June 12, 2010, 07:41:30 pm
Are you going to be a caster/fs stalker? Or use a bow? or...? o_O
Title: Re: Kaho or Valk for PvP Stalker?
Post by: Papercut the Madhatter on June 12, 2010, 07:43:36 pm
Are you going to be a caster/fs stalker? Or use a bow? or...? o_O

I thought a DDTT box was best? (Or Sherwood, but I have no money)
Mind explain what you just said to me? o-o
Title: Re: Kaho or Valk for PvP Stalker?
Post by: Kyubey on June 12, 2010, 07:44:32 pm
I'm assuming a bow user because of his "no more niffing" thread on General Discussions.
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Title: Re: Kaho or Valk for PvP Stalker?
Post by: Callysto on June 12, 2010, 07:44:46 pm
I'm wondering what you're planning to do after you fs someone to kill them. XD
Title: Re: Kaho or Valk for PvP Stalker?
Post by: Papercut the Madhatter on June 12, 2010, 07:48:48 pm
I'm wondering what you're planning to do after you fs someone to kill them. XD

...You could be oh so very kind and tell me what you're suppose to do. :D
I just thought you start spamming DS or something. /swt

I've never PvP'd before, but my cousin said that the most fun class to do it with was the Stalker.
Title: Re: Kaho or Valk for PvP Stalker?
Post by: Callysto on June 12, 2010, 07:55:09 pm
Well, you could do a lot of different things. That's what makes stalker awesome. You aren't going to be able to deal more dps than a sniper with a bow, but with a sherwood and vulture's eye you can get a lot of range. You can't do more damage with sg than a HW, but you can chasewalk. Stalker's are really versatile, so depending on your gears and what you want to do, you could have almost limitless options.

If you're planning on being a full strip stalker, you're going to want a lot of dex. So if you have enough job levels, going a caster/full strip stalker would be a viable option. I personally copy spear of ice since you can spam it like crazy with 190 aspd and unlike JT you aren't pushing people off of your screen. But, that's just me. :P Depends on what you have and what you want to do though.
Title: Re: Kaho or Valk for PvP Stalker?
Post by: Papercut the Madhatter on June 12, 2010, 07:57:44 pm
Well, you could do a lot of different things. That's what makes stalker awesome. You aren't going to be able to deal more dps than a sniper with a bow, but with a sherwood and vulture's eye you can get a lot of range. You can't do more damage with sg than a HW, but you can chasewalk. Stalker's are really versatile, so depending on your gears and what you want to do, you could have almost limitless options.

If you're planning on being a full strip stalker, you're going to want a lot of dex. So if you have enough job levels, going a caster/full strip stalker would be a viable option. I personally copy spear of ice since you can spam it like crazy with 190 aspd and unlike JT you aren't pushing people off of your screen. But, that's just me. :P Depends on what you have and what you want to do though.

So.. Chase them with that one skill, FS them, then spam Spear of Ice/SG?
Title: Re: Kaho or Valk for PvP Stalker?
Post by: Callysto on June 12, 2010, 07:59:51 pm
You can do that, but there are some classes you won't be able to fs unless you status them first to buy yourself some time. You aren't going to be able to fs a high dex class like bio/hp/hw/scholar/etc in one fs attempt. Sometimes you can't even fs them at all even though they aren't FCPd. .___.
Title: Re: Kaho or Valk for PvP Stalker?
Post by: Papercut the Madhatter on June 12, 2010, 08:03:56 pm
You can do that, but there are some classes you won't be able to fs unless you status them first to buy yourself some time. You aren't going to be able to fs a high dex class like bio/hp/hw/scholar/etc in one fs attempt. Sometimes you can't even fs them at all even though they aren't FCPd. .___.

Well, I'm sure I'll get it down. :D
Would you mind helping me with some of the cards/gear I need?
I mean, if it wouldn't trouble you.
Title: Re: Kaho or Valk for PvP Stalker?
Post by: Callysto on June 12, 2010, 08:09:31 pm
I wouldn't mind helping at all. Are you interested in cheaper stuff? :x and what do you have already?
Title: Re: Kaho or Valk for PvP Stalker?
Post by: Papercut the Madhatter on June 12, 2010, 08:11:00 pm
I wouldn't mind helping at all. Are you interested in cheaper stuff? :x and what do you have already?

I have absolutely nothing for a Stalker...
I'm currently trying to sell my Niff gears to fund one..
-cough-
Title: Re: Kaho or Valk for PvP Stalker?
Post by: Callysto on June 12, 2010, 08:12:21 pm
Well, do you have a 99/70 or at least 67 stalker? :D Or are you going to make one?
Title: Re: Kaho or Valk for PvP Stalker?
Post by: Papercut the Madhatter on June 12, 2010, 08:15:22 pm
Well, do you have a 99/70 or at least 67 stalker? :D Or are you going to make one?

I have a level 1/1 Novice. >.<
But yeah, I planned on making one.
Title: Re: Kaho or Valk for PvP Stalker?
Post by: Callysto on June 12, 2010, 08:23:56 pm
Alright well, to be completely honest here, it's going to be hard to play a stalker in pvp without top tier gear/expensive stuff. Since most of your gear slots are going to be taken up by dex gear so you can get ic, which is going to make you extremely squishy. :< But I can give you some suggestions for some gears that will help you level as a caster stalker and a start in pvp.

You're going to want either
2x sting gloves(+5 dex each), or 2x sting orlean's gloves.(+6 dex each)
a stem worm muffler (+5 dex)
hasty (Moonlight Flower) shoes (+5 dex and fast walk)
rocker armor (+1 dex) (Untill you can get to job lvl 67 and get all of your dex bonuses as a stalker)
Kaho
there's a lot of options for mid headgears, depends on what you want really
weapon wise using a bazerald for caster leveling can help. Or you can just use a bow or a dagger doesn't really matter.

As you can see, you waste a lot of gear getting dex.

a more expensive and ideal gear set for pvp would be
2x celebration rings or 2x sting brys
a raydric and devi garment of your choice. I like using wool scarfs
dl sleips
a wind marc, ghostring, evil druid, pest armor
kaho
mid could be a number of things, I generally use an orc hero so I don't stun.
gtb and toad valk
and a sherwood. :<
Title: Re: Kaho or Valk for PvP Stalker?
Post by: Papercut the Madhatter on June 12, 2010, 08:30:21 pm
Alright well, to be completely honest here, it's going to be hard to play a stalker in pvp without top tier gear/expensive stuff. Since most of your gear slots are going to be taken up by dex gear so you can get ic, which is going to make you extremely squishy. :< But I can give you some suggestions for some gears that will help you level as a caster stalker and a start in pvp.

You're going to want either
2x sting gloves(+5 dex each), or 2x sting orlean's gloves.(+6 dex each)
a stem worm muffler (+5 dex)
hasty (Moonlight Flower) shoes (+5 dex and fast walk)
rocker armor (+1 dex) (Untill you can get to job lvl 67 and get all of your dex bonuses as a stalker)
Kaho
there's a lot of options for mid headgears, depends on what you want really
weapon wise using a bazerald for caster leveling can help. Or you can just use a bow or a dagger doesn't really matter.

As you can see, you waste a lot of gear getting dex.

a more expensive and ideal gear set for pvp would be
2x celebration rings or 2x sting brys
a raydric and devi garment of your choice. I like using wool scarfs
dl sleips
a wind marc, ghostring, evil druid, pest armor
kaho
mid could be a number of things, I generally use an orc hero so I don't stun.
gtb and toad valk
and a sherwood. :<

So, I need like.. 2000mil... DDD:
Title: Re: Kaho or Valk for PvP Stalker?
Post by: Callysto on June 12, 2010, 08:33:36 pm
:/ Yeaaah, sort of. To be able to tank hits and actually survive long enough to strip someone... kind of. :x I mean, you could still try with the less expensive gear set, but it's going to be a lot harder. :/
Title: Re: Kaho or Valk for PvP Stalker?
Post by: Papercut the Madhatter on June 12, 2010, 08:36:46 pm
:/ Yeaaah, sort of. To be able to tank hits and actually survive long enough to strip someone... kind of. :x I mean, you could still try with the less expensive gear set, but it's going to be a lot harder. :/

Do you PvP?
Title: Re: Kaho or Valk for PvP Stalker?
Post by: Callysto on June 12, 2010, 08:44:17 pm
Not anymore, no. Everyone just FCPs or relogs since they can't bw out anymore. Full strip is generally frowned upon and people get pissed at you for stripping them. They'll KOS you if you fs them while they're trying to duel. /heh
Title: Re: Kaho or Valk for PvP Stalker?
Post by: Papercut the Madhatter on June 12, 2010, 08:47:25 pm
Not anymore, no. Everyone just FCPs or relogs since they can't bw out anymore. Full strip is generally frowned upon and people get pissed at you for stripping them. They'll KOS you if you fs them while they're trying to duel. /heh

Well, when you were PvPing, what did you do personally?
Title: Re: Kaho or Valk for PvP Stalker?
Post by: Callysto on June 12, 2010, 08:51:27 pm
When I PvPd I wouldn't really rely on fullstrip. I'd adapt and plagiarize different skills based on the situation and what class I was fighting. Copy either bowling bash for gtb users or spear of ice for those who didn't use gtb.

edit;;
Oh and I know this probably looks very negative and I'm not trying to discourage you from trying out stalker, but I wanted to make sure you were aware of some of the hardships of the class @_@ <33
Title: Re: Kaho or Valk for PvP Stalker?
Post by: Papercut the Madhatter on June 12, 2010, 08:53:59 pm
When I PvPd I wouldn't really rely on fullstrip. I'd adapt and plagiarize different skills based on the situation and what class I was fighting. Copy either bowling bash for gtb users or spear of ice for those who didn't use gtb.

Okay, so you did use FS. ^-^
Works for me, thanks for all the help.
Title: Re: Kaho or Valk for PvP Stalker?
Post by: Callysto on June 12, 2010, 08:55:59 pm
You're welcome, and like I said in my previous post, not trying to discourage you, just letting you know it'll be a lot of work. :) Best of luck and if you have any other questions, feel free to pm me. Time for woe. /gg