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The 'Other' Section => AnesisRO Archive => Archive => General Questions => Topic started by: XsuperbikeX on May 25, 2010, 07:53:20 pm
Title: Twin Fang + Valk Crit Build Vs. IcePick,CombatKnife SBK Build
Post by: XsuperbikeX on May 25, 2010, 07:53:20 pm
So i have +8 GR, DL sleips, Immune, Ice pick and a combat knife. should i continue to upgrade them? or should i invest in TF and Valk Crit build?
upgrading should'nt be too much of a problem because i have a 99/70 WS and a ton of elu's and ori's. i also dont mind grinding more at niff lol.
Title: Re: Twin Fang + Valk Crit Build Vs. IcePick,CombatKnife SBK Build
Post by: 0ur0bur0s on May 25, 2010, 07:55:26 pm
What's your plan with either gears? WoE/PvP? Or generalized all-rounder?
Title: Re: Twin Fang + Valk Crit Build Vs. IcePick,CombatKnife SBK Build
Post by: XsuperbikeX on May 25, 2010, 08:50:51 pm
That is not as true anymore with the new items released.
Title: Re: Twin Fang + Valk Crit Build Vs. IcePick,CombatKnife SBK Build
Post by: katadama on May 26, 2010, 10:35:17 am
with TF+valk helm thats pretty cheap. kinda easy to switch since its 2h hand wep could just carry another TF
daggers....ehhhh gotta go crazy with your switching and +9 IP cost like waa 210-240m last time i saw, +9/+10 CK idk (you said you dont mind grinding at niff), then going armor crazy with all these different types of armors, and switching them and your weapons it'll drive you insane and may cause you to lose here and there. while TF is pretty easy switching and since its DDT you already have 190 with concentration pot. either get alot of vit or alot of str or even out str/vit with TF. so ya TF for the poor, daggers for the rich? thats how i see it. katars easy switching while daggers will drive you insane. and not true to katar for woe and daggers for pvp. you can always get DDT and DDV and still do well in pvp
Title: Re: Twin Fang + Valk Crit Build Vs. IcePick,CombatKnife SBK Build
Post by: XsuperbikeX on May 26, 2010, 08:23:02 pm
with TF+valk helm thats pretty cheap. kinda easy to switch since its 2h hand wep could just carry another TF
daggers....ehhhh gotta go crazy with your switching and +9 IP cost like waa 210-240m last time i saw, +9/+10 CK idk (you said you dont mind grinding at niff), then going armor crazy with all these different types of armors, and switching them and your weapons it'll drive you insane and may cause you to lose here and there. while TF is pretty easy switching and since its DDT you already have 190 with concentration pot. either get alot of vit or alot of str or even out str/vit with TF. so ya TF for the poor, daggers for the rich? thats how i see it. katars easy switching while daggers will drive you insane. and not true to katar for woe and daggers for pvp. you can always get DDT and DDV and still do well in pvp
yea true about the crazy ass armor/dagger switching. and the cost of getting a +9 IP and +9 CK is probably gonna go higher than the TF[DDT].
so basically the main stats for the build will have a lot of luck? decent amount of str, enough agi for 190 and rest in vit right? im aiming for at least 24k hp.
Title: Re: Twin Fang + Valk Crit Build Vs. IcePick,CombatKnife SBK Build
Post by: Bagel-kun on May 26, 2010, 08:29:39 pm
if you have the right cards you dont need hardly any luck though a crit shield could be nice
Title: Re: Twin Fang + Valk Crit Build Vs. IcePick,CombatKnife SBK Build
Post by: Combo on May 26, 2010, 08:31:28 pm
Thought I heard something about EDP working better with katars.
Title: Re: Twin Fang + Valk Crit Build Vs. IcePick,CombatKnife SBK Build
Post by: exDragon on May 26, 2010, 09:01:09 pm
Thought I heard something about EDP working better with katars.
EDP is the same for both katars and daggers.
Title: Re: Twin Fang + Valk Crit Build Vs. IcePick,CombatKnife SBK Build
Post by: Walts on May 26, 2010, 09:26:30 pm
B>+9 CK =) and if you are going TF get a DTT and not a DDT, if you are going to woe DTT/DDD would be the best since you have to stat about 80ish agi for a DDD to hit 190 in slow grace, this means your DTT will also hit 190, plus having flee is always good. You really only need a flee garment (baby orc ;3) to reach 300-310 Flee on a sinX, which i think is more helpful than getting hit all the time with a DDT @_@
Title: Re: Twin Fang + Valk Crit Build Vs. IcePick,CombatKnife SBK Build
Post by: katadama on May 26, 2010, 11:32:36 pm
with TF+valk helm thats pretty cheap. kinda easy to switch since its 2h hand wep could just carry another TF
daggers....ehhhh gotta go crazy with your switching and +9 IP cost like waa 210-240m last time i saw, +9/+10 CK idk (you said you dont mind grinding at niff), then going armor crazy with all these different types of armors, and switching them and your weapons it'll drive you insane and may cause you to lose here and there. while TF is pretty easy switching and since its DDT you already have 190 with concentration pot. either get alot of vit or alot of str or even out str/vit with TF. so ya TF for the poor, daggers for the rich? thats how i see it. katars easy switching while daggers will drive you insane. and not true to katar for woe and daggers for pvp. you can always get DDT and DDV and still do well in pvp
yea true about the crazy ass armor/dagger switching. and the cost of getting a +9 IP and +9 CK is probably gonna go higher than the TF[DDT].
so basically the main stats for the build will have a lot of luck? decent amount of str, enough agi for 190 and rest in vit right? im aiming for at least 24k hp.
dunno -,_,- i ran 75-80 str then more with bris of counter and meg, around like 24+56 agi and 40-50 luk and rest on vit. i dont like flee its gay D: shit dont work out in woe since your getting ganged by like 10-20 people and its fair, good thing we can pot and ygg. but i ran like 35-49k hp, always kept devi, with tao or GR on. i carried around DDT and TTT cause valk card never existed back then
use wild valk helm, wild ewe, pcb, a couple of armors, maybe a toad valk if you get wep stripped, raydric/devi/noxcious/dustiness/marse garment, DL sleips, kobold bris/meg/nice to keep berz bris too. use DDT, dun use DTT ~_~ you need more vit in woe not agi, pvp wise? everyone gangs now so w/e fck agi. DTT was so completely useless, had to run like 60 agi to get 190 what a waste of points. really hard to say, theres so many different builds with sinX and so many different ways you can do it, test things out, read threads about sinX on other servers, learn different builds.
@walts, my first TF was a DTT, i hated it, was crap, after using DPPP spec jur had so much agi and no vit died really easily against mvp mobs. DDT really helped me more since with the huge amounts of hp, and was able to take on mvp mobs.
@exdragon - nawww bro. i used DTT with adreline rush, fcp, fire endow and EDP on amon ra, hit 10k crit, got the idea from Chaos Breaker. EDP works better with katar since you always can sonic blow them while daggers not much of a choice besides attack/soul break or meteor assult. plus those champs that like to run away with BR and heal when they duel sinX, nice to sonic blow them repeatedly stun then and kill them.
Title: Re: Twin Fang + Valk Crit Build Vs. IcePick,CombatKnife SBK Build
Post by: redhairweasel on May 27, 2010, 02:14:53 am
@walts, my first TF was a DTT, i hated it, was crap, after using DPPP spec jur had so much agi and no vit died really easily against mvp mobs. DDT really helped me more since with the huge amounts of hp, and was able to take on mvp mobs.
Youdoinitwrong. I rarely died almost on all MVP(minus high tier),usually done it without EDP. Elemental/status armor swap ;)
Title: Re: Twin Fang + Valk Crit Build Vs. IcePick,CombatKnife SBK Build
Post by: katadama on May 27, 2010, 04:00:07 pm
@walts, my first TF was a DTT, i hated it, was crap, after using DPPP spec jur had so much agi and no vit died really easily against mvp mobs. DDT really helped me more since with the huge amounts of hp, and was able to take on mvp mobs.
Youdoinitwrong. I rarely died almost on all MVP(minus high tier),usually done it without EDP. Elemental/status armor swap ;)
NO U D:
i hated DTT had to run agi, hated agi, never gets anywhere in mvps or woe.
Title: Re: Twin Fang + Valk Crit Build Vs. IcePick,CombatKnife SBK Build
Post by: Walts on May 27, 2010, 04:16:53 pm
@walts, my first TF was a DTT, i hated it, was crap, after using DPPP spec jur had so much agi and no vit died really easily against mvp mobs. DDT really helped me more since with the huge amounts of hp, and was able to take on mvp mobs.
Youdoinitwrong. I rarely died almost on all MVP(minus high tier),usually done it without EDP. Elemental/status armor swap ;)
NO U D:
i hated DTT had to run agi, hated agi, never gets anywhere in mvps or woe.
how do you have low vit? i can understand a DPPP, because a TF adds agi to your build and were you using an osiris clip? thats an extra 7 agi, i can run like 70ish vit on my Sinx and have 22-25k HP with a DTT at 310 Flee =(
Title: Re: Twin Fang + Valk Crit Build Vs. IcePick,CombatKnife SBK Build
Post by: katadama on May 27, 2010, 04:58:17 pm
@walts, my first TF was a DTT, i hated it, was crap, after using DPPP spec jur had so much agi and no vit died really easily against mvp mobs. DDT really helped me more since with the huge amounts of hp, and was able to take on mvp mobs.
Youdoinitwrong. I rarely died almost on all MVP(minus high tier),usually done it without EDP. Elemental/status armor swap ;)
NO U D:
i hated DTT had to run agi, hated agi, never gets anywhere in mvps or woe.
how do you have low vit? i can understand a DPPP, because a TF adds agi to your build and were you using an osiris clip? thats an extra 7 agi, i can run like 70ish vit on my Sinx and have 22-25k HP with a DTT at 310 Flee =(
its been almost a year and a half since i played sinX on aRO. ran so much agi and str and enough luk to use crit didn't really have that many points to put into vit plus i wasn't rly as rich. TF does put agi into your build but i rly dont like to run agi, like vit more since it hlps me survive more. i guess i just prefer vit over agi. plus when i did sinX vs sinX duel agi rly never did help cause they had DDPP or TF so agi is pretty useless, other classes can freeze you then SC/Spiral alot of skills, and agi really isn't going to help you when frozen or some other status effect. may save you the hits but i'm used to switching and reducing everything so i'll stick with DDT/DDV/TTT, DTT isn't rly my style, plus 90% of the time i'm usually the tank on sinX since i can run a good 55k-60k hp on sinX and having DTT rly wont hlp me fight back. so i stick with DDT and with valk helm and bris it gives me like 1+56 agi so thats enough for me.
Title: Re: Twin Fang + Valk Crit Build Vs. IcePick,CombatKnife SBK Build
Post by: Lander on May 27, 2010, 05:18:16 pm
with TF+valk helm thats pretty cheap. kinda easy to switch since its 2h hand wep could just carry another TF
daggers....ehhhh gotta go crazy with your switching and +9 IP cost like waa 210-240m last time i saw, +9/+10 CK idk (you said you dont mind grinding at niff), then going armor crazy with all these different types of armors, and switching them and your weapons it'll drive you insane and may cause you to lose here and there. while TF is pretty easy switching and since its DDT you already have 190 with concentration pot. either get alot of vit or alot of str or even out str/vit with TF. so ya TF for the poor, daggers for the rich? thats how i see it. katars easy switching while daggers will drive you insane. and not true to katar for woe and daggers for pvp. you can always get DDT and DDV and still do well in pvp
yea true about the crazy ass armor/dagger switching. and the cost of getting a +9 IP and +9 CK is probably gonna go higher than the TF[DDT].
so basically the main stats for the build will have a lot of luck? decent amount of str, enough agi for 190 and rest in vit right? im aiming for at least 24k hp.
dunno -,_,- i ran 75-80 str then more with bris of counter and meg, around like 24+56 agi and 40-50 luk and rest on vit. i dont like flee its gay D: shit dont work out in woe since your getting ganged by like 10-20 people and its fair, good thing we can pot and ygg. but i ran like 35-49k hp, always kept devi, with tao or GR on. i carried around DDT and TTT cause valk card never existed back then
use wild valk helm, wild ewe, pcb, a couple of armors, maybe a toad valk if you get wep stripped, raydric/devi/noxcious/dustiness/marse garment, DL sleips, kobold bris/meg/nice to keep berz bris too. use DDT, dun use DTT ~_~ you need more vit in woe not agi, pvp wise? everyone gangs now so w/e fck agi. DTT was so completely useless, had to run like 60 agi to get 190 what a waste of points. really hard to say, theres so many different builds with sinX and so many different ways you can do it, test things out, read threads about sinX on other servers, learn different builds.
yea im thinking about DDT or just DDD cus of slow grace. which pisses the shit out of me lol. but that turtle general card can come in handy for defending and what not. im aiming a bit for the DDD lol. we'll see.
so for stats just get between 70-80 STR. enough agi for 190. good vit for 25k+ hp. no dex. and basically how much luck do i need to start doing all crits? (or crit rate)
also "Wild Valk Helm" means its got a Gyphron Card right? and are there any other gears necessary for luck/crits? otherwise im keeping the +9 immune and DL Sleips :)