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Title: New, I'd like to start off with a fresh unfunded character that is fun to play..
Post by: BlueFlame12 on January 09, 2010, 12:50:38 am

I want to restart in this server but I'm having real trouble on which class to start with, and it would be my main, not a mule. Due to the customs and economic prices, I can't really tell which would be the best choice. At least in your opinion. Which?.. Thanks in the future.

Title: Re: New, I'd like to start off with a fresh unfunded character that is fun to pl
Post by: Virus on January 09, 2010, 02:49:51 am

I would say start with a class that's
1) Easy to level
2) Has the ability to make money, without working too hard

Now I like a lot of classes and main a WS/SinX, and i like hunters, priests, wizards, champs, and so on. However.

The first class i suggest you make is a Crusader. Why?
Well they start from a Swordsman. Swordsman has that awesome "Magnum Break" Skill. Use that to mob and kill things faster. At about job 40-50. Depends on you, you can change to a crusader.

Now here's the beauty of it. There is a card everyone loves. Eddga. Perm. gives you endure skill. This skill is a Swordsman Class skill. So only a Crusader and Knight can get it. There's 15-18m saved. And very useful.

Also everyone in goes and gets those DBSS maces and try to make money. B in the DBSS is Bapho card. Splash dmg. But if you become a Grand Cross Crusader you already do dmg around you. I'ts a skill though, so like a wiz you will be using a lot of GJ. The good part about this is though. If a wizard gets hit while casting, the cast stops. For grand cross it doesn't. Wizards use a card that ads 25% more casting time, but it can't be interrupted. That card is worth about 2m right now. There's another 2m saved, and no extra casting time. You can still level quick, not waste as much money on gears.

 Ohh right forgot about one of the most important parts. Every class has their HP bar. Usually for a wizz or a  magic class HP is low and SP is high. For assassins and close combat classes the HP is higher than a magic class, but the SP is lower. Because you're like, a mix of both. You get HP thats 2-3x higher then an assassin or a wizard, near the same level and same gears.

Anyway. There are a lot of good classes and choices. Easy ways to level each class, and ways to make money with each class. In my opinion though Crusader is a perfect blend of both. :D

If you have any questions PM me. And since im bored right now i could help you level and such when you're on. :D

Title: Re: New, I'd like to start off with a fresh unfunded character that is fun to play..
Post by: kurip on January 09, 2010, 03:41:49 am

make rogue and go have fun in toy factory. stay there to get tons of cakes to sell.
if you want, stay till 99, trans into a different class, buy your gears with the cake money for that class you now play

much easier, not fun but at least more practical

Title: Re: New, I'd like to start off with a fresh unfunded character that is fun to pl
Post by: Virus on January 09, 2010, 01:25:37 pm

Quote from: kurip on January 09, 2010, 03:41:49 am

make rogue and go have fun in toy factory. stay there to get tons of cakes to sell.
if you want, stay till 99, trans into a different class, buy your gears with the cake money for that class you now play

much easier, not fun but at least more practical

You could also use assassins, but they don't have auto steal skill. But getting to 99 on a rouge takes ages. And for it to be any useful you need at least some gears.

Title: Re: New, I'd like to start off with a fresh unfunded character that is fun to play..
Post by: Pandora on January 09, 2010, 02:31:58 pm

Crusader for the same reasons as Virus

Title: Re: New, I'd like to start off with a fresh unfunded character that is fun to play..
Post by: ~Neutral~ on January 09, 2010, 03:08:33 pm

Try out a Rogue; by using a Rogue you can not only steal items and have a high amount of flee. But you can also steal their money as well by using their skill known as Steal Coin. So by stealing items and money, you will be racking up a lot of money in no time. Like what Kurip has said before, take a Rogue to Toy Factory with a high Dex/Agi build with a decent amount of strength. Then use the skills Steal and Steal Coin. Keep any Cookies and Cakes you find and vend them as a Merchant.

Edit: If you also decide to use it further, a Rogue can also equip Bow type weapons and learn Double Strafing. So if you really wanted to, you could go level your Rogue like you would for an Archer class. Not to mention you can learn almost any skill in the game by using Plagiarism; which becomes a very fun skill later on. Then if you decide to trans your Rogue into a Stalker. You can preserve the skill you learn from Plagiarism, make people hurt themselves when they attack you by using Reject Weapon, You can also learn Full Strip which is a combination of all 4 strip moves (very helpful PvP skill!). You also get a special kind of cloak as a Stalker known as Chase Walk which will make you immune to uncloaking moves.

Title: Re: New, I'd like to start off with a fresh unfunded character that is fun to pl
Post by: Virus on January 09, 2010, 03:09:54 pm

Your opinions will change as the game goes on. If you start with a crusader you can get to level 99/50 while making a bit of cash for gears.
Then switch to one of the classes above. I'd say once you tranz try be a Stalker, because they're fun.

Title: Re: New, I'd like to start off with a fresh unfunded character that is fun to play..
Post by: BlueFlame12 on January 09, 2010, 06:14:27 pm

Wow.. I never realized how Crusaders really are reasonable.. Thank you so much.. but .. Are there any Guides and Builds that I could follow in this forum ? I'd like to make sure I'm on the right track even if there are Skill and Stat resets.. And Thanks again, also for being mature and helpful.  :)

Title: Re: New, I'd like to start off with a fresh unfunded character that is fun to pl
Post by: Virus on January 09, 2010, 06:20:29 pm

Well. There isn't a GUIDE per say, but there is a discussion thread. Here's the link to it.

http://www.anthemro.com/forums/index.php/topic,1287.0.html

And if you're interested i could help you out. Get you a nice start. I'm not too rich myself so i can't promise really good awesome stuff but i can get you some basic equipment. I can also help you out with builds and skill trees. Where to level questions and stuff. PM me on the forums if you're interested.

But here's a site that can help you with all your skill tree questions.

http://ratemyserver.net/skill_sim.php?jid=14

:D Good luck. And welcome to AnthemRO. Hope you like it here.

Title: Re: New, I'd like to start off with a fresh unfunded character that is fun to play..
Post by: BlueFlame12 on January 09, 2010, 06:26:05 pm

Err.. It's interesting how there are 3 different builds... More I think... Let me guess.... Support... Shield...Grand Cross.. and Spear.. Which one would most likely be easy to get to at least.. say.. 85 or so?... Near the maximum..

EDIT: ... Oh.. and why did people... Suggest Hunter the most?... And.. I heard there's this job called Monk... But I also heard it's a pain in the neck, Maybe I will start and focus on a Crusader first.. What do you think?..

Title: Re: New, I'd like to start off with a fresh unfunded character that is fun to pl
Post by: Virus on January 09, 2010, 06:37:37 pm

Well. Support is, Tank. You would have a lot of defense, and no offence. Kind of hard to level alone. But can prove useful once you get in the 90's.
Spear is for Knights mainly. Its not that useful.
Grand Cross is the most useful build. You still have a lot of Health /Vit. You can heal yourself in case you get low on HP. You can kill lots of monsters at once with Grand Cross. It has nice damage. You also still require STR for grand cross so you can just hit something when you get lazy. But that's once you get the skill. First off everyone is nubby and fights with a sword.

Title: Re: New, I'd like to start off with a fresh unfunded character that is fun to pl
Post by: Virus on January 09, 2010, 06:42:48 pm

If you look at the class lay out. You have a novice that goes to the first five basic classes.
Swordsman
Mage
Acolyte
Merchant
Thief

Acolyte's use heal to kill monsters. They are a pain to level. But once you get to monk it gets a bit easier. The reason people go to monk is because they have a skill called Asura. It can kill lots of monsters. Even a weak asura, thats not stated can do about 50k dmg on a monster. The problem is, it takes skill to be a good monk. Its a hard class to play. Mages are fun but they require lots of time and money. Merchants are just a pain in the ass to level because. Well. They don't get skills that help them level until they hit the next class. Thieves are good, make lots of money and easy to level at first. Harder to level once you get to lvl 90. A lot harder. Swordsman are kind of. The opposite. Hard to level at first. Easy to level once you get Grand Cross.

And why did people chose hunter? You only have 4-5 choices up there. They're not that great. The best choices are Hunter and Rouge.  I just said hunter because, out of those choices, hunter is the funnest to play. :D

Title: Re: New, I'd like to start off with a fresh unfunded character that is fun to pl
Post by: Virus on January 09, 2010, 06:49:06 pm

And actually. I have learned that you can't just have one class and be awesome. You need more then one. If instead of asking for one class, you would have asked for a good way to start playing RO i would have said something like this:

Make a crusader. This will be your main. Easy to level. Good in combat. Very versatile.
In addition to this. You will always need money. Make a merchant. He will be your seller. (Make sure he is on a separate account from your other 2 characters, I would let them all be on a different account)
But you get money from somewhere right? Yes. Cakes. Make a Rouge.

Use the rouge to gather cakes for money. You don't need this character to be really high in levels. You will make lots of money. The character will get loads of EXP. It can also be your secondary character.

Use the merchant to sell EVERYTHING you get from monsters. Sounds weird yes. But 24% from everything you sell can prove to be very useful. Thats from every 100k ,24k is made. So if you spend 24k on meat and GJ, and make 100k in that time. Thats 100k pure profit. The meat and GJ payed for its self.

And finally your Crusader can be your main. The money you gain can be used to get him better gears. Buy him leeches. And so on.

Title: Re: New, I'd like to start off with a fresh unfunded character that is fun to play..
Post by: BlueFlame12 on January 09, 2010, 06:57:53 pm

Yay, More Knowledge :D .. I have to make 2 other accounts then (:

Title: Re: New, I'd like to start off with a fresh unfunded character that is fun to play..
Post by: pepesmith on January 10, 2010, 03:29:08 am

If you ask more than 1 character...then it means the second one will always be the merchant class!... who can live without one? ;D

Title: Re: New, I'd like to start off with a fresh unfunded character that is fun to play..
Post by: BlueFlame12 on January 10, 2010, 09:11:05 am

When should I make one.. I'm currently..a level 50/45 Swordman.. Going to be a Crusader in one level :D

Title: Re: New, I'd like to start off with a fresh unfunded character that is fun to pl
Post by: Virus on January 10, 2010, 11:07:35 am

You should turn into a Crusader once you reach job level 46. This gives you 45 points in skills to use. Get these following Skills:


Sword Mastery Lv 10

Increase Recuperative Power Lv 10

Bash Lv 10

Provoke Lv 5

Endure Lv 10

Title: Re: New, I'd like to start off with a fresh unfunded character that is fun to play..
Post by: BlueFlame12 on January 10, 2010, 07:22:23 pm

What kind of equips would I need? And .. Places to level.. I'm currently at leaf cats to boost the Jlvl exp faster.

Title: Re: New, I'd like to start off with a fresh unfunded character that is fun to pl
Post by: Virus on January 10, 2010, 09:43:43 pm

Equips for a GC crusader are:

For armor. Anything really. HP boost armors are nice. Angeling is best because it reduced the dmg you take from Grand Cross. Lori Ruri Armor so you can heal yourself while getting hit and casting GC
Shield. Really anything you can afford. Best to have Tirfing because its used everywhere.
Acessories, anything that reduces your cast time (dex) or lets you heal more.
Shoes. Anything goes. HP %+ shoes work best.
Muff. Uhm Devi muff works best. Theyre cheap now. Orc Zombie works nice too.

I got some stuff we can make for you. :D next time you're on. (sorry i wasn't able to help you out this time. Too much work to do D:)

Title: Re: New, I'd like to start off with a fresh unfunded character that is fun to play..
Post by: BlueFlame12 on January 10, 2010, 09:50:25 pm

I'm back on :D .. Thank you (:

Title: Re: New, I'd like to start off with a fresh unfunded character that is fun to play..
Post by: LtSqueaky on January 10, 2010, 09:54:22 pm

This is what i suggest for low-end gear

Head-Top: soul ring or any
Head-Mid to Bottom:Any
Weapon:x4 Hurricane(Andre) mace/blade
Armor:Holy(Angeling) Full Plate(or w/e armor that has good def)
Shield:Anti-Medium(Tirfing) Guard
Garment:Immune(Raydric)/Deviant(Deviling) Muff/Manteau/Pauldron. Thou, you better get angeling 1st before equiping devi garment.
Boots:Can be just a normal upgraded boots. Matyr/Verit aint really that good, cause more hp = more dmg from your own GC.
Accessory:Teleport Clip or anything that adds str/int/dex or reduce cast time.

Thats all.. unless you already have decent/better gears.

The problem w/ crusader gc build is that.. They're a pain to train at start, unless you have help.
Cause If you go For GC 1st then you wouldnt have heal and vice-versa.

So for leveling place..
You'll have to spam meat and Gjs alot at these stage.

Stay at leaf cat 1st. Just for the job lvls, say till job lvl 25?..
Or till you get a decent GC lvl...
Thou you dont need to max GC lvl at 1st. Maybe till lvl 5~7 then get your heal.

Then Maybe Prison. You can even get to job 50 here...

Now on the Awesome Stage :D

When you already have all the skill needed, Gc and Heal...
You can now try Nifing w/ lolis. Less ppl here than dullies.
Meaning, good exp and good farming place... IMO


Well thats about it.. =/

Title: Re: New, I'd like to start off with a fresh unfunded character that is fun to play..
Post by: BlueFlame12 on January 10, 2010, 10:01:07 pm

Lots means? D: .. And I'm jlvl 25.. o_o .. How do I build my stats.. ._. ..
Skills are.. 10 Faith 5 Auto Guard 6 Holy Cross and 3 GC o.o .. Lol ...

Title: Re: New, I'd like to start off with a fresh unfunded character that is fun to play..
Post by: LtSqueaky on January 10, 2010, 11:05:31 pm

Your skill build must be like this at job 50.

Faith 10
Pecopeco ride 1
Cavalry Mastery 3
Holy Cross 6
Grand Cross 10
Cure 1
Divine Protection 3
Demon bane 5
Heal 10

Note:You will not be needing Auto-Guard as it sometimes mess up your Grand Cross Skill.

-----------------

Stat build.

Prior on your Int then to str and a few to your dex for a decent cast time.

Thou at your current level, just add int and dex for now, until you get decent cast time. Somewhat around 40 dex.
Then Start adding on your Str.

At 99 your Stat should be like(w/out the added bonus of your job lvl and/or equipments)..

Str:83
Agi:1
Vit:1
Int:99
Dex:47
Luk:1

----------------------------

Note:Why no vit?... You wouldnt need the extra HP IMO.
Crusader/Paladin already have a large amount of HP Thanks to Faith skill.
(trust me on both notes.. Cause I've learned it the hard way)

Title: Re: New, I'd like to start off with a fresh unfunded character that is fun to play..
Post by: BlueFlame12 on January 10, 2010, 11:10:37 pm

I thought I needed heal?.. o.o

Title: Re: New, I'd like to start off with a fresh unfunded character that is fun to play..
Post by: LtSqueaky on January 10, 2010, 11:15:30 pm

ooppss!!..

Sorry forgot xD...
Anyway edited it.. /ok

Title: Re: New, I'd like to start off with a fresh unfunded character that is fun to play..
Post by: BlueFlame12 on January 10, 2010, 11:27:44 pm

Wait.. What the.. Why bother getting a mount if you're not getting full aspd/walking speed or whatever.. o:

Title: Re: New, I'd like to start off with a fresh unfunded character that is fun to play..
Post by: LtSqueaky on January 10, 2010, 11:41:30 pm

uhmm.. Have you tried reading the description? @_@

Quote

This skill allows the character to ride a Peco Peco. Mounted characters gain an additional 25% walking speed (cumulative with AGI UP) and the maximum weight limit a character can carry is increased by 1000.
Mounted characters also attack at half the normal speed, but this penalty can be reduced or offset by levels in Cavalry Mastery. While mounted, the size modifier of spear vs. medium size is 100% instead of 75%.
The Peco Peco must be hired from Peco Peco Breeder in Prontera (55/350) at a cost of 2500z. If the character dismounts (by clicking on the "OFF" button in the equipment window), then the Peco Peco disappears and a new one must be hired.

So in other words...
You still get the bonus walking speed and an additional 1000 weight.
Also you dont need attack speed for Grand Cross Build.
On that note you can just drop the Cavalry Ride thou. If you want.
Add it to demon bane or Divine Protection.

Title: Re: New, I'd like to start off with a fresh unfunded character that is fun to play..
Post by: BlueFlame12 on January 10, 2010, 11:49:44 pm

Yay :D It helps with no str for a bit.. Nvm I'll take that (:

Title: Re: New, I'd like to start off with a fresh unfunded character that is fun to play..
Post by: LtSqueaky on January 11, 2010, 12:04:47 am

Lol..

Glad i could help... =D

If anything just post it here or message me...

You could pm me in-game, Im not usually online thou. =/

Title: Re: New, I'd like to start off with a fresh unfunded character that is fun to play..
Post by: 03-AALIYAH on January 11, 2010, 02:23:34 am

Quote from: LtSqueaky on January 10, 2010, 09:54:22 pm

This is what i suggest for low-end gear

Head-Top: soul ring or any
Head-Mid to Bottom:Any
Weapon:x4 Hurricane(Andre) mace/blade
Armor:Holy(Angeling) Full Plate(or w/e armor that has good def)
Shield:Anti-Medium(Tirfing) Guard
Garment:Immune(Raydric)/Deviant(Deviling) Muff/Manteau/Pauldron. Thou, you better get angeling 1st before equiping devi garment.
Boots:Can be just a normal upgraded boots. Matyr/Verit aint really that good, cause more hp = more dmg from your own GC.
Accessory:Teleport Clip or anything that adds str/int/dex or reduce cast time.

Thats all.. unless you already have decent/better gears.

The problem w/ crusader gc build is that.. They're a pain to train at start, unless you have help.
Cause If you go For GC 1st then you wouldnt have heal and vice-versa.

So for leveling place..
You'll have to spam meat and Gjs alot at these stage.

Stay at leaf cat 1st. Just for the job lvls, say till job lvl 25?..
Or till you get a decent GC lvl...
Thou you dont need to max GC lvl at 1st. Maybe till lvl 5~7 then get your heal.

Then Maybe Prison. You can even get to job 50 here...

Now on the Awesome Stage :D

When you already have all the skill needed, Gc and Heal...
You can now try Nifing w/ lolis. Less ppl here than dullies.
Meaning, good exp and good farming place... IMO


Well thats about it.. =/

A +4 damascus, with no card, has more attack than a +10 blade[4] or +10 mace[4]. a +10 quad andre blade = 153 attack power. A +4 single Andre damascus = 166 attack. If the weapon is based off of its raw attack theres absolutely no need to get a quad carded weapon ( unless it involves a high refine rate + Samurai cards ), especially when playing the swordsmen class. Some cheap alternatives ( that also give you more attack power than a quad andre weapon ) are Cutlus, Flamberge,  Haedonggum, Holy avenger, Mysteltain, Ice falchion, Fireblend or Tsurugi are all decent one handed weapons that you can find relatively cheap or just buy from an NPC.

Last I remember Crusader is a terrible class to start with if your new to the game. If played right and well it can be used with almost no start up gear, but I can say the same thing about Hunters, Bards, Knights, Assassins, Rogues, Wizards and black smiths just because I know how to play those classes without MvP cards. The fact that a Sader will guzzle the hell out of Meat and grape juice means that any new player will have a hard time saving up money. Even more so as your "low end" gear already costs upwards of 10 mil . If you have some start up money from a  different account, a friend or something then it a different story.

I would actually suggest Wizard or rogue as good starting classes. Both require little maintenance and can be played in a party or solo.

Quote

This is what i suggest for low-end gear

Head-Top: soul ring or any Thats fine, a +4 basebal cap or +4 helm[0]/+4 spiky band also work fine if you need something cheaper.
Head-Mid to Bottom:Any
Weapon:x4 Hurricane(Andre) mace/blade Anything that has high attack as GC ( IIRC ) is based off of Physical AND Magical attack, Int is usually just higher because more int = a better heal. A Bazerald works great, especially as its fire element. So you can kill leaf cats using bash with it before you turn into a sader, I can give you one if you want as well.
Armor:Holy(Angeling) Full Plate(or w/e armor that has good def) I would say you don't even need angeling as a crusader, but it does help a lot for mobbing. If its too pricy, slap on a Bathory carded armor. It doesn't increase your GC damage on yourself, if you were wondering. However right now angeling is crazy cheap, so if you can magically scrounge up 3 mil to get one, go for it. Peco peco works well as it adds HPif you need a SUPER cheap card.
Shield:Anti-Medium(Tirfing) Guard No, Khalitzberg buckler. Your going to be mainly killing undead enemies until you hit level 85, getting one of these costs like 1 mil as oppose to 5 for a tirfing card or 7 - 9 mil for a properly upgraded one.
Garment:Immune(Raydric)/Deviant(Deviling) Muff/Manteau/Pauldron. Thou, you better get angeling 1st before equiping devi garment. Raydric works wonders for saders, deviling is only usable if your not a GC build, or have angeling to go with it
Boots:Can be just a normal upgraded boots. Matyr/Verit aint really that good, cause more hp = more dmg from your own GC. To a point thats true, you want around 14,000 hp at level 99 somewhere around this number minimizes how much you take from GC, but still gives you enough HP to live through mobs attacking you and heal off the damage before doing it again. Verit /Matyr means you need to add less vit and can put more into dex and int
Accessory:Teleport Clip or anything that adds str/int/dex or reduce cast time. These don't really matter until you can afford something fairly expensive, 2 ring[0], earring[0], glove[0] or clips carded with a +2 or +3 stat card work fine, but they are infinitely unimportant if you can't afford more expensive gear

Title: Re: New, I'd like to start off with a fresh unfunded character that is fun to pl
Post by: Virus on January 11, 2010, 06:23:11 am

Every class uses meat and grape juice. The amount of meat and grape juice used decreases with your skill level.
The reason i picked Crusader is because of it's set up. You don't need to have Eddga card because of Endure Skill. You can still solo, and party just like a wizard or a rouge.
You have more HP then either of those classes, with no Vit added. And you must agree HP is nice. Yes, it can get a bit boring but what doesn't?
Besides. What are you saying, your Wiz with no gears can tank and kill better, faster and more monsters then a Crusader can? Or do you use less grape juice per the same amount of exp? In the end run does it really matter how much GJ you used? You don't need to have great IC gears like you do wit ha wiz. Or the phen card.
About the rouge. Yes. Rouge is a good class. Low end on gears. Doesn't use a lot of supplies. At all. I would say it's one of the cheapest characters to use when you talk pot wise. It's got the nice skill copy move, so you can learn BB, or SG and mob. And I have to admit. I completely forgot about that skill. And you could make a skill memo + mob work, it would just be easier with a crusader then a Rouge. With a rouge you have to bring: Meat, Gj, Lot of Vit for health, and then the stats to make your leveling build work. For a crusader you can just set 99 int, 50 on str, and the rest on dex. Not to mention that the cast time of a lvl 10 Grand Cross is shorter than any other kind of magic skill. And lets pick the most loved/hated map. Niff.

At niff a crusader can make aprox. 300k /30 mins by picking up loots from its mobs. A single GC can kill 1 dullahan even if its poorly stated. Unlike a wiz, who can only make 100k / 30 mins. at the same level. Wizards Usually SW and SG. If they leave the comfort of the SW they die. Thats how it works with less than 2k HP. With a rouge it's easier then with a wiz. But still the ability to kill and heal of a crusader makes it just that much better and quicker.

The low end gear thing being 10m. Thats retarded. Low end gears for a crusader are under 1m easy. Lets see
Head gear. Any. Usually Helm [4]
Mid. Usually fin helm
Lower. Usually Chain
Armor: Pupa/Lori Ruri Padded armor
Shield: High Orc Shield/Guard
Muff: Orc Zombie Muff
Shoes: Anything Really. Some HP adding card on shoes.
Accessory: That item that gets bonus to padded armor. Armor charm
2nd Acessory: Anything. Clip [1] with no card even. For the SP

I don't see how this ads up to being 10m. Do you? Unless there was a recent price spike i wasn't aware of.

The only thing i can agree with that you have stated is that rouges are a good class to start with. Low on meat and GJ, and can gain mob skills. Can steal and make money. Great to start. It would still take longer then a GC sader imo. Besides. He had already made a crusader. Me and my friends (and anyone else he might know already) are slowly trying to help him out. He's got a sader. He's got the basics of the skills and gears. And i did suggest to him to make a rouge just for cake hunting, and to be his second character in case he gets bored with a sader.

But thanks for shutting down the most powerful nub class. Lets see you do 1/2 the things a sader can do with any other class and same gears as a sader.

Title: Re: New, I'd like to start off with a fresh unfunded character that is fun to pl
Post by: Virus on January 11, 2010, 06:28:34 am

Also. Since you were talking about weapons. +0 Flamberge is 150 atack.  Lvl 3 wep so each + it gets 5 atk bonus. +5 is the final safest point of a flam. thats +25 atack. 175 atack from a safe flam. More then youre Dam. And Atack isn't used dirrectly. Its used in a huge formula that amplify INT and ATK.

Anyone can play any class with no mvp cards. Crusader has MVP card skills already though. Thats why its so good.

But nice try.

Title: Re: New, I'd like to start off with a fresh unfunded character that is fun to play..
Post by: 03-AALIYAH on January 11, 2010, 10:17:24 am

 I was correcting someone ELSES post, the things in quotes, yea not mine. I added the bolded part to the bottom quote in my post and the top part was the post I was referring to. If your going to be a dick at least read what someone else is saying before you /rage He suggested "low end gears" for a crusader that cost upwards of 10 mil, I even fucking quoted him.

The damascus was also just an example god damn it, I listed a Bunch of weapons that had comparable or MORE attack power in my post. Flamberge being one of them. The entire point of that part was to give alternatives to a +10 quad andre blade that the other guy suggested, because that weapon is useless and overpriced.

Edit * Also at the end where you said" But nice try" thats so fucking stereotypical, you god damn tool.

Title: Re: New, I'd like to start off with a fresh unfunded character that is fun to pl
Post by: BlueFlame12 on January 11, 2010, 10:36:52 am

Kayyy ,people, D: .... It's all right.. No need to argue... We're a community here of our own server :/ .. Plus.. I've already made a thief.. I got a grimtooth.. he's around level 30s o.o ... I'm planning on making an alchemist today.. with my new laptop.. Just gonna leech at leaf cats or something with a mage.. Right?... Fire is effective against them.. OR.... Alternative.. That ghost skill that shoots like 5 times.. That's strong in GLAST.. I'll just open 2 windows... and sit my other char in a safe spot or something.. About making money.. I've got about .. 4M now.. Is that slow ? o_O ... 90 cakes... and Idk.. I just need training places :D .. level 63.. Because.. All the stuff that I'll need will be in Prontera anyways.. I just need the money for it.. so If I keep grinding.. Then.. Yeah.. Anyways.. I'm at school right now.. this sucks x.x


Thank you so much for the people who have helped me.. >.< .. I feel stupid for being helped so much already.

Title: Re: New, I'd like to start off with a fresh unfunded character that is fun to pl
Post by: Virus on January 11, 2010, 01:48:29 pm

How is it stereotypical? Next time, lets use words that we know, okay?

Title: Re: New, I'd like to start off with a fresh unfunded character that is fun to play..
Post by: 03-AALIYAH on January 11, 2010, 05:31:35 pm

Your arguing grammar with me now?

Stereotypical is the adjective form of stereotype, One of the definition of stereotype is "One that is regarded as embodying or conforming to a set image or type." The last phrase that I pointed out is commonly used, in a demeaning way, at the end of some bull shit post that attempted to basically flame-refute someone else's in order to make yourself seem "superior" and the other person "inferior". Hence it is Stereotypical.



Now get back to actually arguing with me, not nitpicking about grammar that you don't understand. Or just leave, I don't care at this point.

Edit* @OP: Sorry about this haha. Good luck in game though.

Title: Re: New, I'd like to start off with a fresh unfunded character that is fun to pl
Post by: BlueFlame12 on January 12, 2010, 10:01:03 am

I'm making another char.. o.o .. What should I make? I have Crusader, Thief and a Merchy.. This other one will be for fun.. I want a cheap class :D Any suggestions? :3

And.. All I can say is... I'm cheap with healing... I'd rather not waste until I become funded, sort of.

Anyway.. Thanks :D

Title: Re: New, I'd like to start off with a fresh unfunded character that is fun to play..
Post by: LtSqueaky on January 12, 2010, 11:11:08 pm

gawd... what happened here? O.o?
Not gonna read them all.. -_-

@ 03-AALIYAH, I forgot about that xD
Thanks for correcting me.
Was thinking of cheapest gear and didnt thought about the details much.. lol
(My suggestion was abit of a mid-end gear thou xD)

Well, anyway...
IMO sader is one of the cheapest class to use..
Thou, I can suggest rogue, since you already have a thief.

Good thing about this class are...

They don't need good gears to train/farm.(Heck you can even use npc gears even at high 80s lvl)
Plus easy farming thanks to auto-steal.(this doesnt work if youre using bow)
Also they have this skill called, Plagiarism. That could copy Dmging skills that has been use to you, which could really come in handy.

Only down side I know is that theyre really a pain to train at high lvls.