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Title: Wind Elemtal swords
Post by: axnman on November 17, 2009, 05:33:10 am

hello, how can i get a wind elemental two handed swords? thanks  ;D

Title: Re: Wind Elemtal swords
Post by: Sera on November 17, 2009, 05:39:24 am

If you mean this:

(http://img691.imageshack.us/img691/2676/schweizersabel.jpg)

You can either buy it from the item shop for 1 AD
or you can go kill the Swordy mvp in LH2 map.

Title: Re: Wind Elemtal swords
Post by: kolela on November 17, 2009, 05:40:58 am

or if you want regular one...
ask a blacksmith/whitesmith to forge weapon, but you need to ask him whether you need to pay or prepare the ingredients.
Type /blacksmith to see ranked ones (it gives +10 more atk iirc)
Search selling forum, there are ranked blacksmith putting up his forging service.

or

make a sage that can endow for 30 minutes but you need elemental stones for each endow.
But this way you can do ~40% more damage because cards you put in slotted weapons. Blacksmith's weapon has no slot.

Title: Re: Wind Elemtal swords
Post by: kurip on November 17, 2009, 05:47:01 am

im yet to test, but i belive one +10 weapon with anti elemental cards + endow does more dmg than one +7 (yes, smiths barely take elemental weapons to +10 since it gets expensive) elemental sword

for example. lets suppose you want to kill kasas (i only use this example because their cards are easy to remember  :( and giving a pike example) one +10 [Peco egg*2][vadon*2] pike + water endow should do more dmg than one +7 water pike or any other spear type weapon. however just a theory and requires testing to be 100% sure

ok, using doddler calculators this is what i got.
using one 99/70 LK with 99 str, 99 dex and 25 vit (not the best stats but wtv, just to ensure the dmg and hit) with spear mastery and on a peco

with elemental cards + endow these were the results

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Minimum Damage   816
Average Damage   824
Maximum Damage 832

dmg with spiral pierce
Minimum Damage   3050(610X5hit)
Average Damage   3050(610X5hit)
Maximum Damage 3050(610X5hit)

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if pike is +10
Minimum Damage   856
Average Damage   864
Maximum Damage872
same SP dmg since its the exact same weight/upping

if pike is +7
Minimum Damage   840
Average Damage   840
Maximum Damage 840
sp dmg

Minimum Damage   2990(598X5hit)
Average Damage   2990(598X5hit)
Maximum Damage 2990(598X5hit)

source : http://rode.doddlercon.com/db/calc/

seems ranked WS +7 VVS water pikes win on this one with +16 (average) dmg even if just +7

Title: Re: Wind Elemtal swords
Post by: axnman on November 17, 2009, 06:10:51 am

alright thanks guys  :D

Title: Re: Wind Elemtal swords
Post by: kurip on November 17, 2009, 06:16:56 am

edited with testing above

Title: Re: Wind Elemtal swords
Post by: redhairweasel on November 17, 2009, 08:29:08 am

Quote from: kurip on November 17, 2009, 05:47:01 am

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You don't have to compare pike with spiral pierce...since pike specialist on other skill other than spiral pierce. Technically even Spiral won't get big atk boost between +4 nib and +10 nib...

And yes, Pike 96% card pike+endow better than VVS Pike a lot. However, this combo mostly forgotten here because everyone can have MVP card.

Well, in iRO...sometime +7 and +8~10 pike give a big impact....either you can 1-shot or not with pierce since it's the fastest way to level or hunt with knight.

Title: Re: Wind Elemtal swords
Post by: kurip on November 17, 2009, 08:41:29 am

Quote from: redhairweasel on November 17, 2009, 08:29:08 am

Quote from: kurip on November 17, 2009, 05:47:01 am

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You don't have to compare pike with spiral pierce...since pike specialist on other skill other than spiral pierce. Technically even Spiral won't get big atk boost between +4 nib and +10 nib...

And yes, Pike 96% card pike+endow better than VVS Pike a lot. However, this combo mostly forgotten here because everyone can have MVP card.

Well, in iRO...sometime +7 and +8~10 pike give a big impact....either you can 1-shot or not with pierce since it's the fastest way to level or hunt with knight.

well, have to admit i know more how to kill a knight than how to use and their skills/equips /swt .
however im a fan of the +% dmg on race/element mainly on my clown. was surprised to find that a properly made violin can beat belmont on AV dmg on pvm with both chars with similar gears even if underlved.

but what you say its a sad truth. people are too narrow minded to try weapons besides the common DDT

Title: Re: Wind Elemtal swords
Post by: redhairweasel on November 17, 2009, 10:16:19 am

Quote from: kurip on November 17, 2009, 08:41:29 am

Quote from: redhairweasel on November 17, 2009, 08:29:08 am

Quote from: kurip on November 17, 2009, 05:47:01 am

~

You don't have to compare pike with spiral pierce...since pike specialist on other skill other than spiral pierce. Technically even Spiral won't get big atk boost between +4 nib and +10 nib...

And yes, Pike 96% card pike+endow better than VVS Pike a lot. However, this combo mostly forgotten here because everyone can have MVP card.

Well, in iRO...sometime +7 and +8~10 pike give a big impact....either you can 1-shot or not with pierce since it's the fastest way to level or hunt with knight.

well, have to admit i know more how to kill a knight than how to use and their skills/equips /swt .
however im a fan of the +% dmg on race/element mainly on my clown. was surprised to find that a properly made violin can beat belmont on AV dmg on pvm with both chars with similar gears even if underlved.

but what you say its a sad truth. people are too narrow minded to try weapons besides the common DDT

I knew a clown who used to farm/level at sting with 1-shot AV. Well, there's some class who can 1~2 shot down there without expensive gear...not sure if anyone still farm them since it was 600~1k population.

Title: Re: Wind Elemtal swords
Post by: kolela on November 17, 2009, 12:32:33 pm

Sorry for repeating X__X, but pike is bad for spiral because their weight really low.
@post, what I meant is "vvs wind claymore" vs "wind endow + two handed sword[2] + 2 drainliar card".
I prefer to use this link to do calc:
calcx.wushuang.ws (http://calcx.wushuang.ws)

Title: Re: Wind Elemtal swords
Post by: kurip on November 17, 2009, 12:45:57 pm

Quote from: kolela on November 17, 2009, 12:32:33 pm

Sorry for repeating X__X, but pike is bad for spiral because their weight really low.
@post, what I meant is "vvs wind claymore" vs "wind endow + two handed sword[2] + 2 drainliar card".
I prefer to use this link to do calc:
calcx.wushuang.ws (http://calcx.wushuang.ws)

err, scroll down
bottom of page

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Ragnarok Online (c) Gravity Corp. & Lee Myoungjin(studio DTDS). All Rights Reserved.
Original simulator created by ROratorio, translated and adapted by Doddler.
Latest updates/translations by Gandi.

both links are the same calculator /swt

Title: Re: Wind Elemtal swords
Post by: kolela on November 17, 2009, 02:48:58 pm

more updated :P