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Title: Berzebub Card
Post by: fimm86 on October 06, 2009, 12:17:29 am

Again with question :P

This time is about Berzebub Card

1. What is minimum DEX for using with Berzebub Card?

2. Can anyone suggest equipment that best equipped with Berzebub Card?

3. Any other equipment that best equipped with Berzebub Card compounded item?

Title: Re: Berzebub Card
Post by: 03-AALIYAH on October 06, 2009, 12:40:02 am

There is no minimum dex to use a berze card.

What we need from you:

Class of character
What build that character is using

Title: Re: Berzebub Card
Post by: Erica~ on October 06, 2009, 12:41:52 am

Quote

3. Any other equipment that best equipped with Berzebub Card compounded item?

Ranges from gloves to earrings to rings to brys.

Title: Re: Berzebub Card
Post by: Romeo on October 06, 2009, 12:46:12 am

i will prefer rosary..5 mdef..xD..BUT TILL NOW..i dint get one..pls sell to me one..plox :'(

Title: Re: Berzebub Card
Post by: crusaderforjustice on October 06, 2009, 12:58:54 am

Quote from: eqalfara92 on October 06, 2009, 12:46:12 am

i will prefer rosary..5 mdef..xD..BUT TILL NOW..i dint get one..pls sell to me one..plox :'(

rosary[0] grants 5 mdef while the slotted one gets 3mdef.

Title: Re: Berzebub Card
Post by: fimm86 on October 06, 2009, 01:00:08 am

Quote from: Hersheys on October 06, 2009, 12:40:02 am

There is no minimum dex to use a berze card.

What we need from you:

Class of character
What build that character is using

The class is wizard.
How much minimum DEX with Berz card to have spontaneous Storm Gust?

Title: Re: Berzebub Card
Post by: Erica~ on October 06, 2009, 01:05:08 am

You can never achieve insta-cast with berz on a wizard with dex.
The only way to get insta-cast with a berz is with the clown skill bragi.
If it is a Wizard, the I suggest berz gloves, since you need the faster cast you can get.

Title: Re: Berzebub Card
Post by: kurip on October 06, 2009, 01:06:18 am

you wont get instant cast with cast reduction gears, only sader/pally can get IC through cast reduction. wiz need 150 dex, you can obtain by getting:

kaho (+20 dex); double sting gloves (+10 dex); stem muffler (+5 dex); gargoyle shoes (+5 dex); dex type survivors rod [drops] (+4 dex); + dex from job bonus + 99 base dex = instant cast (150 dex)

Quote from: Erica~ on October 06, 2009, 01:05:08 am

If it is a Wizard, the I suggest berz gloves, since you need the faster cast you can get.

dex doesnt stack with cast reduction gears, so useless. plus sting gloves are cheaper and will do the same thing

Title: Re: Berzebub Card
Post by: Erica~ on October 06, 2009, 01:08:53 am

At lower amounts of dex berz > stings.
Also even though they don't stack, 80 dex with two berz > two berz

Title: Re: Berzebub Card
Post by: shikurikura on October 06, 2009, 08:39:43 pm

I think the formula is

1st theory:

Casting time = [Casting time - (Casting time x ((DEX/1.5)/100))] - ([Casting time - (Casting time x ((DEX/1.5)/100))] x Reduce Casting Card/100)

Explaination: Let say casting time is 10 sec. First it is reduced by DEX. Then it is reduced again by Reduce Casting Card. I calculated the other way, first reduced by Reduce Casting Card then by DEX. It's still same.

2nd theory:

Casting time = [Casting time - (Casting time x (((DEX/1.5) + Reduce Casting Card)/100))]

Explaination: Let say casting time is 10 sec. Then casting time is reduced by DEX + Reduce Casting Card.

I think the 2nd theory is not correct because the result is very to much.

Title: Re: Berzebub Card
Post by: exDragon on October 06, 2009, 10:17:52 pm

Easier to understand equation:


Casting time = Base casting time * ((150 - your dex)/150) *  ((100 - you cast time reduction)/100)

Title: Re: Berzebub Card
Post by: Erica~ on October 06, 2009, 10:55:41 pm

Dex is applied first, then cast reduction.
As in some areas, having stings > berz

Title: Re: Berzebub Card
Post by: exDragon on October 06, 2009, 11:58:53 pm

Quote from: Erica~ on October 06, 2009, 10:55:41 pm

Dex is applied first, then cast reduction.
As in some areas, having stings > berz

It doesn't really matter what is applied first in code because they come out to be the same speed.

Title: Re: Berzebub Card
Post by: TTaylor on October 07, 2009, 12:36:49 am

Do the berz + DI + DL combo still does good?

Title: Re: Berzebub Card
Post by: Erica~ on October 07, 2009, 12:49:43 am

Quote from: TTaylor on October 07, 2009, 12:36:49 am

Do the berz + DI + DL combo still does good?

It is good, because cast reductions stack with each other.