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Title: SG + HW card vs Magic Def.
Post by: Ark on September 19, 2009, 01:37:03 am

So i have this doubt, lets say i have 90+ magic def and suddenly this wizard/HW uses SG on me, it would be very hard to freeze me due to my high magic def right? so what if this wizard/HW uses a HW card and uses SG on me again; will the effect, that is on the description of the card, increase the SG chances to freeze me (since it will ignore 50% of my magic def) or the 50% applies only to the damage i will recieve as if i had 45+ magic def?

i know it may sound like a dumb question or a little confusing, but i just want to clear that doubt, so can anyone tell me? :(

Title: Re: SG + HW card vs Magic Def.
Post by: Aryia on September 19, 2009, 01:41:20 am

If you have 95 mdef, you won't freeze, even if they're wearing HW cards.

Title: Re: SG + HW card vs Magic Def.
Post by: valiant1709 on September 19, 2009, 01:48:35 am

the freeze effect will not changed (high enough mdef wont freeze you). The only thing that changed with Hw card is the damage u will receive

Title: Re: SG + HW card vs Magic Def.
Post by: Ark on September 19, 2009, 01:52:48 am

ah thx a lot guys :)

Title: Re: SG + HW card vs Magic Def.
Post by: -Nick- on September 19, 2009, 02:56:51 am

if you have 95 in mdef you will die of 1 sg (=

Title: Re: SG + HW card vs Magic Def.
Post by: Ark on September 19, 2009, 03:07:54 am

 :'(

Title: Re: SG + HW card vs Magic Def.
Post by: levin on September 19, 2009, 03:14:10 am

actually in SG i think u need quite high mdef to not freeze right?

remembered someone tested SG.
and someone else also said that SG has a 100% freeze chance as long as ur hit the 3rd time.

Title: Re: SG + HW card vs Magic Def.
Post by: Rembrandt on September 19, 2009, 12:06:14 pm

Quote from: levin on September 19, 2009, 03:14:10 am

actually in SG i think u need quite high mdef to not freeze right?

remembered someone tested SG.
and someone else also said that SG has a 100% freeze chance as long as ur hit the 3rd time.

after 90 or so mdef your freeze will last less than 3 seconds.

Title: Re: SG + HW card vs Magic Def.
Post by: xCielx on September 19, 2009, 03:28:51 pm

Quote from: -Nick- on September 19, 2009, 02:56:51 am

if you have 95 in mdef you will die of 1 sg (=

Not freeze = Receive all the damage

Title: Re: SG + HW card vs Magic Def.
Post by: Ark on September 19, 2009, 04:16:11 pm

i guess i will have to pot more on woe :'(

Title: Re: SG + HW card vs Magic Def.
Post by: exDragon on September 19, 2009, 06:06:14 pm

Storm gust is different from other freeze effects in that its not based on chance on whether you freeze or not.  It's  based on damaging hits(after 3 hits you freeze).  However, you only count damaging hits as if the person is not wearing the high wizard card since high wizard card only effects damage.

Title: Re: SG + HW card vs Magic Def.
Post by: balam on September 19, 2009, 06:11:06 pm

Fact:
You dont freeze after 3 SG hits with 95+mdef wether or not the SG caster uses a HW card

Title: Re: SG + HW card vs Magic Def.
Post by: exDragon on September 19, 2009, 06:19:39 pm

From what I've heard, to not freeze from a storm of gust you need this value to be zero or negative (97 - MDEF - LUK/3).

So with 95 magic defense you need at least 6 luck.

Title: Re: SG + HW card vs Magic Def.
Post by: Renian on September 19, 2009, 06:56:32 pm

I knew this'll come up again XD

Here, I made an inquiry into this issue a while ago, and came up with the solution:

http://www.anthemro.com/forums/index.php/topic,58606.0.html

It's all explained in the last post ;)

Title: Re: SG + HW card vs Magic Def.
Post by: crusaderforjustice on September 20, 2009, 01:48:28 pm

man, i think i freeze even with 96 mdef every once in a while. i think its safe to say its 100 mdef to never freeze but ya.

Title: Re: SG + HW card vs Magic Def.
Post by: Emi on September 20, 2009, 10:27:38 pm

Quote from: exDragon on September 19, 2009, 06:19:39 pm

From what I've heard, to not freeze from a storm of gust you need this value to be zero or negative (97 - MDEF - LUK/3).

So with 95 magic defense you need at least 6 luck.

Luk computes separately from mdef reduction so you would need more luk.

Title: Re: SG + HW card vs Magic Def.
Post by: exDragon on September 20, 2009, 11:07:03 pm

Quote from: Emi on September 20, 2009, 10:27:38 pm

Quote from: exDragon on September 19, 2009, 06:19:39 pm

From what I've heard, to not freeze from a storm of gust you need this value to be zero or negative (97 - MDEF - LUK/3).

So with 95 magic defense you need at least 6 luck.

Luk computes separately from mdef reduction so you would need more luk.

How would you calculate the chance for a freeze to occur if those are seperate from each other?